Do people think they are owed the world?

[Wilko220]

In general, the answer to this thread is "yes".

[vulgalour]

Personally, I'm still waiting for my moon on a stick.

[Sean]

Personally, I'm still waiting for my moon on a stick.

I love that as an expression

[Cavcraft]

One of the few things I agree with the blue place about is Offers.

 

If you're selling, name a price. By naming a price you then waive all rights to have a hissy fit when it turns out to be worth more.

 

If you can't name a price, it goes on eBay and you deal with mongs.

 

 

Absolutely bang on the money. I always make a really stupid offer if someone doesn't give a price, most of the time it forces them to state what they actually want.

[theorganist]

There is a guy in Chester with a Maxi 1500 in his garage. It was his fathers and has been there since 1993. It has low mileage and looks clean. The engine appears to turn.

 

You can tell he wants quite a bit for it as he thinks its mileage and rareity make it more valuable. Also as it was his fathers he is very attached to it. I rang the owners club and they confirmed what I suspected it is only worth scrap value.

 

I really want it as its Brooklands Green with the Almond interior which I think is a lovely combination and with a bit of fettling would be a tidy looking car. Assuming once running it was okay mechanically it would definatley be a keeper.

 

He will need to sell soon as he is moving house and has basically said I can have it. I said I can't take it till the winter but I am dreading the money discussion as I think he will be insulted by being offered a low price, I am planning to offer £200 which is above scrap value.

[Micrashed]

Why people can't just do that in the first place is beyond me.

 

Essentially, people are cunts.

Because no matter what you say on the advert people will always always offer less for a car.

Last one I sold privatly that I haggled with was the Xantia - it was up for £1995, I wanted £1700, buyer wades in with £1400 offer - I tell him what I want is £1700 he spends an HOUR a whole actuall fucking HOUR trying to beat me down to £1500.

 

He eventually paid the £1700 but christ on a pedalo what a cunt.

 

Conversley the original MicraShed was up for £250, buyer pitched up and I just said if you give me £200 and dont piss about haggling over every little scratch and bit of grot its yours. He did. I was happy, so it would appear was he.

[Sean]

Sold a diesel Polo last night, had it up for £500, matey looked it over and was happy enough. When it came to the money he said 'what's the lowest you will take?'

 

I said we're going to settle on £465 so just give me that.

You'll say 450, ill say 480, you'll say 460, ill say 470 then we'll agree at 465 so just give me that and we'll shake.

 

He did, so a small amount of faith in people is restored.

 

He did ask if I had a full service history though . . .

[Cavcraft]

There is a guy in Chester with a Maxi 1500 in his garage. It was his fathers and has been there since 1993. It has low mileage and looks clean. The engine appears to turn.

 

You can tell he wants quite a bit for it as he thinks its mileage and rareity make it more valuable. Also as it was his fathers he is very attached to it. I rang the owners club and they confirmed what I suspected it is only worth scrap value.

 

I really want it as its Brooklands Green with the Almond interior which I think is a lovely combination and with a bit of fettling would be a tidy looking car. Assuming once running it was okay mechanically it would definatley be a keeper.

 

He will need to sell soon as he is moving house and has basically said I can have it. I said I can't take it till the winter but I am dreading the money discussion as I think he will be insulted by being offered a low price, I am planning to offer £200 which is above scrap value.

 

 

Oh God, I think I 'know' that bloke. I had a Maxi and joined the forum thing and that bloke popped up asking me if I wanted his Maxi. I asked a few times how much he wanted but he just pretty much avoided that point and kept waffling on about 'letting me know when it was ready to be sold'. This ready bit just seemed to involve him opening the garage door from what I could tell, but I never got further than a few e-mails, didn't see the car or go to his house. 

 

I *think* he is literally just down the road from me. If push comes to shove I could possibly clear one of my garages out and host it in there for a say a month at the most if wanted? If so let me know and I'll get cracking clearing the garage.

[Partridge]

RE Talking about haggling and buying. 

 

If I think a car is worth it’s asking price, I’ll pay it. I’d rather that than arse around and risk loosing the car-if I didn’t want it enough to buy it, I wouldn’t be making an offer.

 

If the asking price is more than I think the car is worth, I’ll offer what I think it is. The seller has three choices: he can take it or leave it, or try and get another 50 quid out of me...

[Junkman]

They are a combination of daft and greedy, which in this combination is mental, yes.

[theorganist]

Oh God, I think I 'know' that bloke. I had a Maxi and joined the forum thing and that bloke popped up asking me if I wanted his Maxi. I asked a few times how much he wanted but he just pretty much avoided that point and kept waffling on about 'letting me know when it was ready to be sold'. This ready bit just seemed to involve him opening the garage door from what I could tell, but I never got further than a few e-mails, didn't see the car or go to his house. 

 

I *think* he is literally just down the road from me. If push comes to shove I could possibly clear one of my garages out and host it in there for a say a month at the most if wanted? If so let me know and I'll get cracking clearing the garage.

Thanks Cavette thats a very kind offer. I will keep you informed as soon as I hear something.

 

Hopefully he will accept it is not worth as much as he thinks!

[theorganist]

Oh God, I think I 'know' that bloke. I had a Maxi and joined the forum thing and that bloke popped up asking me if I wanted his Maxi. I asked a few times how much he wanted but he just pretty much avoided that point and kept waffling on about 'letting me know when it was ready to be sold'. This ready bit just seemed to involve him opening the garage door from what I could tell, but I never got further than a few e-mails, didn't see the car or go to his house. 

 

I *think* he is literally just down the road from me. If push comes to shove I could possibly clear one of my garages out and host it in there for a say a month at the most if wanted? If so let me know and I'll get cracking clearing the garage.

Thanks Cavette thats a very kind offer. I will keep you informed as soon as I hear something.

 

Hopefully he will accept it is not worth as much as he thinks!

[Mr Livered]

I bought a Minx recently, great car but the asking price was a bit high. So I told the seller that I thought it was a bit high, but explained that I didn't want to be a wanker about it so why didn't he just tell me what he was looking for? We'd shaken hands within about 30 seconds. That'll probably be my "tactic" from now on. Can't be arsed with the stupid to-and-fro dance.

[Cavcraft]

If something I'm selling is cheap enough anyhow and I've stated no offers, I quite often 'reverse negotiate' with the buyer. When they suggest £20 less I suggest £50 more until they get the point.

[nacho man]

A few times I wish I wasn't such a tight wad/ditherer/scared of the misses recently I have missed out on a mint volcane zx dizzler on ebay which was up for 900 I think I was going in with 750 on the best offer, then 800, then he said someone hit bin for 900. Kicked myself for that as it was just what i wanted at the time also the same happened on a 205 van which I didn't need  but it was ace, think the classified ad was 695 or something I watched it for about a week for some reason, then it sold.

 

Then a few months ago I go to look at a house, pay full asking price which is like 50 billionty times the amount of a knackered old car.

 

 

In summary: People are mental. 

 

+1

[alfetta]

The worse I have is with owners of old saab 99/900's. Usually elderly and would rather see the car rot on the drive/garage then take anything less than a totally unrealistic pile of cash...

[Junkman]

Yes, I noticed the same thing.

 

Saab owners seem to be unable to realise that their cars are a bit difficult to unload onto a public cowed into a steady, revolving-credit-scheme series of soulless safety-porridge-tins, warm-blanket warranties, and parking-assistant-stupidity. When the phone finally rings, and later a cardigan-clad calculator-jockey appears on their door step, they can be sure of a couple of things:

 

1) Unless they live in a city with a population greater than seven million, this is the only person that is going to make them an offer on their 1980-something Saab, and,

 

2) This unlikely character is almost certainly a platinum-membership-card-carrying Autoshiter.

[maxpower]

I put my van for sale on ebay @ £3500 with a years tax and ticket... bargain. i said i will not haggle on the price £3500 rigid.

 

right on cue... the "mong message machine" kicks in..... will you take £3100?  No!

 

next day.... will you take £3200..... No!

 

3rd day "okay £3300 that's all i have" so i replied that he seems to earn £100 everytime he goes to sleep, so contact me in 2 days time and he will have enough to buy the van

 

But someone saw it was a bargain and paid asking price no problem....... i find it easier just to have fun with the mongs rather than be dragged down by them.

[Sean]

Any (roadworthy) cars I sell are always priced with a bit of haggling room as I've found buyers tend to buy quicker if they think they are getting a deal. I always make them work for the cut though!

 

Never EVER put 'or near offer' on an advert as that also tends to attract morons.

 

Of course when someone pops up and pays the asking price (which is above what I usually want) then the difference goes in the petty cash pot and last year the petty cash had nearly a grand in at Xmas which paid for Xmas outright

[warren t claim]

I sold a Golf recently to a couple of men from Bradford and they were hopping with flustration that I wouldn't knock a fiver off the full asking as he said he never ever paid the screen price on a car but didn't want to lose the chance to buy mine. He was fraught with anguish until I bought him a can of Dr Pepper and gave it him free with the car. It was his own little victory, a free drink worth 59p.

[Sean]

I sold a Golf recently to a couple of men from Bradford and they were hopping with flustration that I wouldn't knock a fiver off the full asking as he said he never ever paid the screen price on a car but didn't want to lose the chance to buy mine. He was fraught with anguish until I bought him a can of Dr Pepper and gave it him free with the car. It was his own little victory, a free drink worth 59p.

Well played that man. I do like a Dr Pepper!

[vulgalour]

I don't like haggling, I feel bad for haggling the Princess down to what I did from what the previous owner wanted.  With that in mind, I only ever consider buying cars that are priced at what I think is a fair amount and just pay it once I'm sure it's what I want.  Using this policy, I have never been disappointed and have always felt my purchases have been worthwhile.

[Sean]

I don't like haggling, I feel bad for haggling the Princess down to what I did from what the previous owner wanted. With that in mind, I only ever consider buying cars that are priced at what I think is a fair amount and just pay it once I'm sure it's what I want. Using this policy, I have never been disappointed and have always felt my purchases have been worthwhile.

Wanna buy a car?

[vulgalour]

Is it a TR7?

[Junkman]

I don't like haggling, I feel bad for haggling the Princess down to what I did from what the previous owner wanted.  With that in mind, I only ever consider buying cars that are priced at what I think is a fair amount and just pay it once I'm sure it's what I want.  Using this policy, I have never been disappointed and have always felt my purchases have been worthwhile.

 

Yeah, but what if the price isn't fair? What if it's totally bonkers and the seller tells you he'd rather scrap the car than selling it for a fair price?

[vulgalour]

If I don't think the price is fair to begin with I just don't buy it, simple.  I can't save every hopeless old wreck out there.

[Micrashed]

.  I can't save every hopeless old wreck out there.

This is NOT the AutosHite way - of course we must save every basket case possible

[HMC]

The counterpoint is, lets say with a not particularly rare mass produced car, thats not worth much more than scrap even in ok order. Been there several times The trouble is some people expect say a 3-400 quid car to be perfection and the possible time wasted and aggro arising from the whole thing has made me consider weighing the thing in and dropping 100 or so- not that i did but i can see the appeal.

[Albert Ross]

I have an increasingly rare Sierra Sapphire. Apparently only 60 summat left according to HowmanyshallweguessatbeingleftusinghtepoordetailsprovidedbyDVLA... I would certainly take £500 for it, but realistically, turn up with a trailer and £200, take the fucker away..... I love it, but hate it... etc.

[Sean]

I've got a soft spot for a Sierra Sapphire!

 

Had a 'lovely' (?) Silver one with a Cvh on an auto box as my second car and was blindly in love with it.