Part Worn Tyre Advice

[brickwall]

Ah! So the location is good.

[warren t claim]

  On 20/06/2013 at 16:11, brickwall said:

Ah! So the location is good.

About 100 meters from a main thoroughfare into the town centre. Putting a moveable tyres for sale sign on the corner wouldn't be a problem. Most of the local scrappys are within a few hundred meters.

[cort16]

Pulling Jacks, wheels and tyres up and down that slope is going to get dull very quickly. I agree about the unit looking smart though it does make a difference.

[warren t claim]

  On 20/06/2013 at 16:14, cort16 said:

Pulling Jacks, wheels and tyres up and down that slope is going to get dull very quickly.

Didn't think of that. I suppose it'll keep me fit!

 

Any tyre delivery involving more than a semi high roof Transit is gonna be a stern workout!

[Mr Lobster]

That does look very nice and projects a lot better image than some rough looking yard, looks a lot more professional to me.

 

£100 / week sounds fairly reasonable for that - is that plus VAT or not? Not a significant amount either way but it all adds up.

 

I'd have a chat with the council about its rateable value and if you can get small business rate relief as I would imagine business rates on that won't be overly cheap.  Otherwise I think the only issue would be parking - if the street is full of cars would potential customers just drive away if they can't easily park?

 

Overall I'd say thats got some pretty good potential though, if you can afford to take the risk I think its worth a try.

[dieselnutjob]

can you make a hinged ramp so that it lifts to the height of the bed of a transit/truck whatever, and turns the slope into a flat loading bay? and then lower it to drive in and out.

 

Maybe it wouldn't have to be full width, say 3 foot wide and cars wheels would pass either side

[brickwall]

Looking around it appears a new business can get various benefits from councils.

[Cavcraft]

I reckon you're going to struggle manouvering motors in there once you've got the back full of stock and/or cars. The ramp will have to be for quick jobs and if you get something stuck on there, you're banjaxed.

 

What happened to that other unit you were looking at a couple of weeks ago?

[binboy]

£100 a week that's cheap, in Rugby were I am good units are £200+ a week.

[warren t claim]

I'm hoping not to have to do any vehicular movements in the workshop as I won't be dealing in dead cars.

[londonm]

I agree with Wilko 220, I used Greyhound tyres near me until they closed. An old school fitter who'd repair your tyre for a tenner if it could be done safely and legally. I just want honesty, not some bloke rubbing his chin and having to meet sales targets for a huge national chain. Good luck with it mate, give it a go.

[Cavcraft]

Not all the chains want to sell you a tyre. Some get a bonus for repairs (presumably because there's more money in the labour) but that doesn't mean you can trust most of them!

[face]

The toilet looks filthy.

 

Walk away.

[brickwall]

Meh, nothing a deep clean wouldn't sort.

[Burnside]

This sounds a good idea to me. A friend and myself had talked about doing this too but never seamed to get any further than that. The unit looks nice and smart. Which is as you say is what you want if your running your own business. Not some run down hole. If it does well you could always think about moving to a bigger building. I used to work for a tyre wholesaler company that supplied new tyres to company's including Kwik Fit. An we had to also collect the used tyres from them to dispose off. We took them to a company who sorted through them for the part worn tyres then the rest got sent in there 7.5 T Lorries to Southampton for export to be recycled for resurfacing material. Think they used to charge us 25p a tyre for disposal?

 

The tyre fitting machines and balancer machine I was told were £600-£700 for secondhand refurbished items last year. An my friend brought his own tracking tools for £150 I think. The guy he got them from did say if you drop them i.e onto the floor when taking them off that they would need recalibrating.

 

Good luck with it.

[fiatdaft]

Just a wee thought,but could a lowered car get up the incline with out catching exhausts etc ?

[warren t claim]

OK peeps, I need a bit of help with costings. What are the most popular tyre sizes these days? I can't imagine shifting many 155/70SR 13s in 2013.

[brickwall]

Good point. Cars tend to have the wider tyre now with a lower profile.

[warren t claim]

Can't see me needing to stock up on cross plys either.

[Albert Ross]

205/55/16 is possibly the most popular size, along with 185 and 195/65/15. Whatever size you get, be sure to keep hold of the highest speed rating tyres you can use. These will fit more vehicles due to the high speed rating, unlike the other way round. Similarly with XL rated tyres. Save these for people carriers if possible. Obviously, a W rated XL tyre would be too much for a 1.4 Focus, but if that's what you have, that's what they can buy. At least it's a sale. If all you have is H rated, normal load rating stuff, it's no good for the 2.0 TDCi C-Max.... Take a look in your average Morrison's car park, have a gleg at the tyre sizes as you walk through. That should help a little.

 

Keeping a little stock that fits everything with that size is preferable to having a shitload of stuff. Try to keep pairs if you can, and pay attention to the ages of the carcasses too. You do know where the dates etc are, don't you?

[warren t claim]

A bit of an update. The unit decoration is coming along nicely and it looks better than it did in the photos.

 

Spoken to a local supplier who has been a mine of good info.

 

Prices quoted for tyres are as follows.

 

13 14 15" £8.50

 

16" £9.50

 

17" £13

 

18" £ 15

 

All tyres are pressure tested and carry at least 4mm of tread and he offers free delivery if I buy 100 or more.

 

What price do you think I should sell at? I was thinking as follows.

 

13 14" £15

 

16" £19.50

 

17" £24.50

 

18" £34.50.

 

How does that compare to what you pay?

[Cavcraft]

I reckon Top Gear in Ellesmere Port probably charge £25 minimum for a 17" tyre whose life is measured in seconds, so if you can get decent ones (as long as a good make) then £30 would probably see you right. 

 

13s? Hardly anyone will want them, ditto 14s so I wouldn't be buying too many in to be honest.

[dollywobbler]

14s still have a chance I reckon. I'm guessing a large part of the part-worn buyership drive around in old tat. 

[trigger]

Both my old Mondeo and Focus run 225/40/18's so they seem a popular size, and many of the older Escorts and Golfs run 185/60/14's.

[Pillock]

At that price I'll have a pair of 16s off you next time I'm up! I used to pay £25 for 17s about 8 years ago so I'd say you're on the ball if you want to shift them.

 

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[Lacquer Peel]

  On 27/06/2013 at 16:53, trigger said:

Both my old Mondeo and Focus run 225/40/18's

 

What on earth, are they supercars or something?

 

Those prices seem very fair.

[trigger]

  On 27/06/2013 at 20:22, Dr. Steve Brule said:

What on earth, are they supercars or something?

I wish! The Mondeo was just a standard ST and the Focus runs ST style wheels which tramline like buggery.

[binboy]

Hi I sell cars for a living and that sounds about the same prices as I pay for part worn tyres. Some 13s can be good sellers for ka's corsa's etc.

[warren t claim]

  On 27/06/2013 at 16:47, Cavette said:

 

 

13s? Hardly anyone will want them, ditto 14s so I wouldn't be buying too many in to be honest.

The Ford KA takes 155/70R13 tyres, the problem is jacking them up without them falling apart.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

Looks GR9. In addition to what's already been said, I reckon you could make a fair few extra sales if you could get winter part-worns or, better still, all-season ones. People tend to panic buy at the first mention of OMG SNO KAOS.

 

I'd happily pay £30 a corner (195/65R15) for a premium brand all-season part-worn with 5+mm tread. There's bugger all on ebay at the moment.