Alexg Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 Spending every evening on ebay means that we're pretty savvy to these scammers. The ridiculously cheap classics with a contact by email only correspondence, and a stupidly low classified add price from a new seller with no feedback. I've reported more than I can remember, many are easy to spot because they replicate the last listing deleted days before. Others less so. The scammers can be quite clever, when I enquired about a £3500 mint MK2 RS Escort, I was sent phoney ebay invoices, logged into fake on-line live chat with an 'Ebay Rep' who explained all I needed to do was to transfer over the money etc etc.... Perhaps, in order to disrupt and perhaps deter these scumbags, we could highlight these ads on this here thread and go about f**king up their shit. Example: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-FORD-SIE ... fresh=true Sierra Cozzy for 4k. Bid away chums Also emailing over bollocks questions and promises of sent money... etc etc, you know the coo
Bobthebeard Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 Am probably being stupid, but almost £100 grand? Why, if this is a scam would anyone on here bid on it?
Alexg Posted February 9, 2013 Author Posted February 9, 2013 The idea is to get people to email the seller so they can be scammed into transfering over the money for the car. But the car doesn't exist.
Bobthebeard Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 The idea is to get people to email the seller so they can be scammed into transfering over the money for the car. But the car doesn't exist. Ahh. I see. That's shabby.
panhard65 Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 It is a very good scam if you try to bid on it you get a message to contact ebay which is most likely their number. How anyone falls for it I don't know
ProgRocker Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 I`m listing this golf for a friend. And yet it has 'genuine Ford parts'
Alexg Posted February 9, 2013 Author Posted February 9, 2013 Thanks who ever posted on AS facebook. The photos for this scam ad were stolen from this genuine ad... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-FORD-SIE ... 7675.l2557
seacow Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 They operate on Gumtree etc as well. Silly low prices - they have just moved abroad and the car is with a shipping company - the transaction will be done through ebay motors - they hold the cash while car is delivered and you make sure you are happy with it - just email your details etc etc - of course ebay don't offer that kind of service!!
Alexg Posted February 11, 2013 Author Posted February 11, 2013 So, I tried to report the problem to ebay. Not via there normal report button, but via live online chat. What fugging hard work that tuned out to be. Mid-chat I got cut off and had to restart all over again, from department, to department to department. I was reporting this, which still appears to be running... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MK2-ESCORT-CO ... 257ac65d6b This is how difficult it is, this is 2nd time around... Brenda BarnesWelcome to eBay Live Help, my name is Brenda. How may I be of assistance? alexroverHi I was talking to Carleton O. about a scam listing. but appear to have been cut offalexroverhello?Brenda BarnesI'll be more than happy to assist you with your concern today. Please give me a minute or two while I access your account first.alexroverI have the transcript from the previous chat, would you like me to paste it?Brenda BarnesSure please.alexrover"Kerrie TrumanWelcome to eBay Live Help. My name is Kerrie. How may I help you today?alexroverYes hello. The following listing is a scam. I reported earlier but it is still on ebay. I'm almost reporting daily but they still seem to remain for hours after. is there a better way to report them?alexrover160973610347Kerrie TrumanHello AlexKerrie TrumanAs I am a specilaist department, I will be unable to address your concern. I need to transfer the chat to our trust and safety team. If you allow could I please transfer the chat to the concerned department. alexroverok thanksKerrie TrumanPlease give me a moment while I transfer the chat. alexroverokKerrie TrumanHas transferred you to:Carleton O.Carleton O.Hello and thank you for contacting Community Watch Live chat. My name is Carleton. Please allow me a few minutes to review your previous chat.alexroverI check new classic car listing every night. I've reported may scams, by suggesting the lisitng is fradulent. Is there a more efficiant way to..."alexroversorry i've missed some out, one secBrenda BarnesIn order to resolve your issue, I will connect you with our UK Trust and Safety Team now. Would that be fine?alexroverok, i've lost the transcript. but yes put me through pleaseBrenda BarnesThanks for confirming. I will transfer you now.Brenda BarnesHas transferred you to:Penny BarrowsPenny BarrowsHello, Alex. Welcome to eBay Live Help. My name is Penny. Please give me a moment to read what you have discussed with the previous representative.Penny BarrowsFrom what I understand, you want to report a listing. Is that correct?alexroverHi Penny. I was messaging to ask about the most effective way to report scammers. Every day now I'm spotting one or two classic car listings that are scams. this is one 160973610347. When I report them the normal method they still remain for hours.Penny BarrowsI haven’t received a response for a while. If you're in the middle of typing a reply, could you send it on?Penny BarrowsI see, I’m glad to inform you that we have a specialised Team which directly handles this type of report. May I now transfer this session to them?alexroveryea pleasePenny BarrowsPlease stay online while I transfer this session to them.Penny BarrowsHas transferred you to:Jason AllenJason AllenWelcome to Community Watch Live Chat. My name is Jason. Please give me a moment to review your previous discussion or if you'd like to, can you let me know what the issue is?alexroverHi Jason. this is how it breaks down... They scammers but up an ad. They don't actually have the car advertised, they use photos from previous listings, advertise at a really cheap price, and ask for email contact only.When you email and agree a price (a silly low price) they sent phoney eBay invoices. This is happening daily, I spot them all the time. How can I help you get rid of these more effectively? When I report the normal method the listings are still available hours lateralexrover160973610347 is one such advert. This is not his car. And it should be about 12 grandJason AllenThanks for elabrating your issue.Jason AllenPlease accept my apologies as it seems that the previous representative mistakenly transferred the chat to us. Your concern needs an attention of our other team which looks into such concerns. I've made a note on this chat. Without taking more of your time, may I transfer you now?alexroverokJason AllenPlease stay online while I transfer this chat.Jason AllenHas transferred you to:Hannah HarrisonHannah HarrisonWelcome to eBay Live Chat. My name is Hannah. Please give me a moment to review what you have discussed with the previous representative.alexroverno problemHannah HarrisonI understand you want to report a seller for possible fraud. Thank you for reporting this matter to us, I have passed the details on to the team that look after these issues. Once they have reviewed all the details they will take action as appropriate. Due to privacy laws we will not be able to share what action we take with you but I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank you for reporting this. alexroverHang on. Is there a more effective way of reporting these ads. There are about 2 a day popping up (that I know of) and after reporting them they are often still there hours later.Hannah HarrisonYou can contact us through this link so you will be directed to the appropriate department that deals with this: http://ocs.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... sPage=true alexroverOk, I'm sure I'll be reporting more later tonight. Thanks
Hertz Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 I'm guessing a 1987 Guten Morgen is worth more than 3200 GBP? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1987-Morgan-4 ... 19d8cfa87f
Mr_Bo11ox Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Hey Alex, having read all that I am gonna stick my neck out and say don't use the live chat for reporting stuff.
Alexg Posted February 11, 2013 Author Posted February 11, 2013 Yeah, i'm not looking forward to the next one. But it worked, because the listing was removed (3 friggin hours later)
Spiny Norman Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 I've emailed the Moggie seller, let's see how inventive his scam is.
autofive Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 reading that 'chat' it seems to me that you were conversing with a computer. If you are certain that an ebay ad is fake why not just buy it? i have done this previously, and just refused to pay until i see proof of ownership (which the scammer cant provide), this stops the listing, and the scammer doesnt get any money if it's an auction then have a massive bid, so making sure you are the winning bidder simples
Alexg Posted February 11, 2013 Author Posted February 11, 2013 Because as the one Hertz has posted it's a 'classified' ad, so no 'buy it now' to end the auction. The whole point is to get you to email the seller, that's where the scam begins...
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