IoW Scrappage victims...remembered

[Albert Ross]

I just thought you looked like a Rabbi.

[vulgalour]

A fabulous Rabbi.

[maxpower]

I just thought you looked like a Rabbi.

 

whose volvo had shrunk

[Black_GT]

Those Polo pics are fantastic! True hero for putting a sofa on the roof rack

[Black_GT]

I know it's been talked to death on here, but there are few things that make me as angry than the scrappage scheme - a ridiculous waste of money and resources - what a great idea, destroy parts of our motoring heritage and thousands of perfectly good cars to boost the profits of some Far East car manufacturers! I wonder how many cars were bought on finance under the scrappage scheme too - ostensibly "saving" £2000 by spending £10000 which people would not have spent otherwise, and are probably still struggling to pay back.

 

I have to say though that it's not even the destruction of rare cars that boils my piss the most - it's that the government tried to pass it off as being environmentally beneficial. Saving a few mpg on a brand new car, which probably made a negligible difference to air quality and carbon emissions, in exchange for the impact of scrapping a perfectly good car, melting down the metal and sending the rest to landfill, and then manufacturing new cars and shipping them to the UK which results in far more pollution and carbon emissions.

 

It sickens me in our society how much we waste, and how this is allowed and even encouraged FFS! Whatever happened to the "make do and mend" philosophy? It's the reason why I'm unlikely to vote Labour for a very long time.

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[quicksilver]

^ Amen to that! It's exactly how I feel about the whole sorry business and I'm heartened to know there are others who feel the same and I'm not just grumpy and cynical. Bloody governments have no common sense anymore

 

On a lighter note, moving house in a Polo seems to be a rather amusing escapade.

[vulgalour]

@blackGT - yeah... that's precisely my thoughts on the matter too. Nothing more needs adding.

 

@quicksilver: I admitted defeat when it came to the Harmonium, that had to go in a friend's Transit van, but everything else, including some plants for the garden and a four poster bed (okay I cheated, since it's one that dismantles into component parts) and all of the above went in and on the Polo. I can't remember how many trips I did it in, but it worked out as cheaper (if only slightly) than hiring a van and paying for the van fuel. Was a barrel of laughs too.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

 

 

If ever a single image could show the wanton ignorance and stupidity of the public, it's this.

[Negative Creep]

 

 

If ever a single image could show the wanton ignorance and stupidity of the public, it's this.

 

 

A lot of those cars would have easily been worth over 2 grand as well!

[fiatdaft]

Where?

[tonedepear]

I bet dark red Merc soft roaders command a pretty penny? (ML?)

 

That and the ford pickup thing behind it are the only things I can see that might be close?

[fiatdaft]

Nope.

[tonedepear]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/mercedes-benz/m_class/postcode/s124sb/radius/1500/quicksearch/true

 

?

[fiatdaft]

So you have had a quick look on auto trader,cheapest one recently the garage took in was £750.

[willswitchengage]

Making the most out a bad situation: car identification challenge!

 

1. Half way across, three quarters of the way up. Pale grey/blue, what is it?

 

2. The black saloon in the top right hand corner extremity

 

Other than that not much... Bottom left Metrocab is nice.

 

EDIT here is the pic again as I've started a new page

 

[fiatdaft]

Toyota corolla and a bmw e28 5 series.

[Negative Creep]

I'm not sure what that white car to the right of the Prairie is - mk.2 Astra?

[fiatdaft]

Corolla.

[AnthonyG]

I wonder how many of those would have been scrapped by now anyway? - this was over more than 2 years ago now.

[Alpus]

I saw this picture on Top Gear from 2009 once. I hated seeing that Corolla and now seeing that Prairie makes me quite angry. Just goes to show that I couldn't work in a scrap yard.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

So you have had a quick look on auto trader,cheapest one recently the garage took in was £750.

 

The scrappage scheme was 2-3 years ago. The cars were worth a bit more then.

[Negative Creep]

Not sure if there's any truth in it, but I did hear many cars weren't registered as scrapped and ended up back on the road anyway

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Very possible - quite a few (mainly Kraut stuff) ended up on transporters to Polithuania. Anything that ended up at Copart/Upullit was scrapped though.

[chaseracer]

Very possible - quite a few (mainly Kraut stuff) ended up on transporters to Polithuania...

Certainly a lot of ageing 'quality' RHD kit heading east on trailers and transporters when I was in Belgium/Holland/Germany/Berlin in the middle of 2010...

[YugoLada]

I saw this picture on Top Gear from 2009 once. I hated seeing that Corolla and now seeing that Prairie makes me quite angry. Just goes to show that I couldn't work in a scrap yard.

I couldn't work at a scrapyard to I'd be taking the cars home fixing them and selling them.

[willswitchengage]

If you don't like stats, look away now!

 

Below is a graph I've just excelled. It shows the scrapage rates of three cars built between 1982 and 1993, the Citroen BX, Ford Sierra and Austin Maestro. The y axis shows the percentage of that model on the road that was scrapped in the year shown on the x axis.

 

 

Observation 1. The peak scrappage rate for all three cars occurs in 2006 (it's the same for the Renault 25, but that line was a little higgledy-piggledy as there were/are so few it doesn't really commute well into statistics)

 

Observation 2. The scrappage scheme, occurring in 2010, seems to make no discernible difference. I expected to see a small peak in scrappage rates in 2010, however there is nothing.

 

Observation 3. However, there is a discrepancy in 2007-8, where the scrappage rate plateaued. Why? The recession began then but I don't see how that in any way would affect people's behaviour?

 

Observation 4. The plot for the Maestro shows that its scrappage rate was always alot higher than BX and Sierra. Obviously we all know why, I additionally made a log plot of proportion of models still on the road of three aforementioned cars - the BX and Sierra were practically identical whereas the proportion of Maestros left was about 1/3 less.

 

I've obviously made alot of assumptions here but I thought it was a terrifically unproductive way of spending half an hour.

[PatrickMcRebel]

I'd guess these photos were taken summer-autumn last year? I remember wandering around there at the end of last year trying to find various rebel and scimitar compatible bits. They had a Robin, a Realto, A lotus Elcat (full of old tyres), a fantastic early dennis fire tender in the big shed and an assortment of MG's and Triumphs. I tried to buy all the front suspension of that Herald (as its rebel compatible) but it was being kept for a friend of the owner of the yard.

 

I missed the Rebel saloon by 2 weeks, Apparently it was tidy, ran and drove when it came in... when I first visited the bodyshell had just been destroyed. The chassis, suspension and some of the other parts went off to the mainland for an unknown purpose, probably a kit car. The Lights and bumpers are still at the yard somewhere but could not be found while I was there. I bought the boot which was the only bit they could find and it is now fitted to the red saloon. It was a huge waste a good car went off the road and very few useful parts were saved. Another victim of scrapage stupidity .

 

The blokes at the yard seemed happy enough to let parts go for sensible money, I think I walked away with a fuel filler neck with chrome locking cap, a set of chrome door handles and a perfect chrome numberplate light for about £15, Next time I'm on the island I'll hopefully have a chance to call in again and see whats left.

 

The doors and heater box are now on my Rebel. Such a shame it was scrapped, it even had M.O.T! There are around 30-40 Rebels now left on the road.

 

[TimothyClaypole]

[PhilA]

Funny thing is, in that picture, by prices here all of those cars would come in well over two grand. The Merc in the bottom right? Probably be advertised close to 9000, even today.

 

Faux schemes, artificially deflated prices and a harsh MoT seem to drive that drivel there. Unfortunate.

 

--Phil

[Justin Case]

Funny thing is, in that picture, by prices here all of those cars would come in well over two grand. The Merc in the bottom right? Probably be advertised close to 9000, even today.

 

Faux schemes, artificially deflated prices and a harsh MoT seem to drive that drivel there. Unfortunate.

 

--Phil

 

No less than 46 E-Class Mercedes on Autotrader for less than £1,000

 

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used ... ult/page/1

 

Amazingly a number of them are W124s, which I would though would have commanded a lot higher price

 

* For those of you who are worried that the location of Villa Alfisti has been revealed on the interweb, I have used the postcode of West Bromwich Hyundai as a suitably ironic choice for a scrappage thread