Bought a lemon!

[oldford]

They use the ASV in the Skoda Octavia. We have used a very good Skoda breaker based in Poole, phone number 01202 722666.

[dieselnutjob]

bloody hell

a turbo failure AND a big end failure

 

it must have been run with no oil in the sump at some point, or the oil pump failed or something

also as the PD engines are mega fussy about what oil they have due to the enormous stresses on the cam driven injection system shouldn't you check that that piece is okay?

 

if a big end was stuffed wouldn't it result in the oil pressure light coming on? did the previous owner disable the light?

[Pillock]

No low oil pressure, at least not till Albert was here and we were trying to prime the injectors. Then it flicked on once after a mammoth CRANKING SESH.

 

Still trying to weigh up getting the short engine remachined (meaning that bit will be perfect, but then what if another part gives up) vs just wanging a cheap engine in (known to all work nicely, but only if the seller isn't a lying toad). I'm just about the cycle down to the garage and have a chat - the receptionist said they'd be happy to book it in, but I want to make sure they know the state it's in before I put someone to the trouble of towing it across town.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I would defo be looking at a secondhand engine if it was me, it seems this engine has suffered some unspecified neglect which makes it a bit of a liability. I'm sure you'll be able to find an engine which comes with some reassurance that its healthy (crashed donor car, film clip of it running etc) I bet it will cost about £500 though.

[Pillock]

Back from the garage - indeed, it was a good job I went. Chatted to the owner, although they'd indeed be happy to look at it, I'd be looking at a mammoth bill.

Plenty of engines on eBay for £450ish so £500 delivered, most with 60 days warranty. Might as well take the rest of the engine out myself and see if the refurbishers fancy taking it on but it's looking new engine time yeah.

[mk1_4dr]

Could there be a 'converge-on-the pillock-pad-and-lob-the-lump-in' day. Im sure there would be a couple with experience of these motors and a couple that can make tea/encourage/take pics.....

 

I could be up for it, as Im off for the next 9days...

 

EDIT -- I can make tea and take shonky pics but Ive got very little knowledge of diesel lumps and even less of VAG stuff.

Also, im too sarcastic to give encouragment...

[Rod/b]

I think you've seen the light. Make sure you whack a new cambelt kit and a waterpump on whatever you get before you lob it in.

[dieselnutjob]

but make sure you can put the old ones back on if it's crap and has to go back under the 60 day warranty

[Pillock]

Well, if anyone wants to come round and undo a few bolts, you're more than welcome!

Truth be known I've shat it - this is costing money I don't have and I feel I've been completely bitten on the arse with this. Can't blame anyone but myself though.

 

Options so far:

* Head and block without any bolt on goodies seems to come to around £450 delivered on average. I can however then sell my good head on, it's pretty new looking so maybe get £200 back for that but it's a gamble. Nobody seems to want to sell me just an assembled block, but I guess if there's been a failed head then the pistons are likely to be mashed.

* Supply and fit places are charging between £800 and £1000 and most want a servicable lump in return which mine isn't so may be a surcharge

* Still take the short engine to the specialist and see what he can do with it, but he'll probably want to do all four bores as they look a bit suspect - Albert seemed to think it had been sat for a while with a buggered gasket and water in the bores. However, this could still be cheaper but could take fugging yonks.

* Petrol, match, explain to the insurer how the explosion destroyed major engine components in such a way that there's no sign of them, anywhere.

* 400 paracetamol and a single bus ticket to Beachy Head.

[messerschmitt owner]

have it stolen by pikeys is no.6

 

just say it was there one minute and gone the next but there was a white transit pickup close by at the time and someone had just offered to tarmac the drive.

[Pillock]

Option 7 is Volksmine have an ASV entire engine minus turbo, 77,000 miles, £600 to my door with 90 days warranty.

Given it's complete, gives me chance to flog my injectors, almost new cylinder head and diesel pump on - a quick scout of ebay shows the total for that lot to be maybe £250. It's complete and assembled so no arsing around with timing or head gaskets, should slip in.

[mk1_4dr]

Option7 sounds like a winnAr to me, but then what the chuff do I know....

[garethj]

I'd go for option 7 if you can't get enough paracetamol at short notice.

[Pillock]

Yeah, seems the best. The rest of the engines are still over £500 delivered quite often without a warranty, or missing everything apart from head, block and flywheel.

 

I just want the fugging thing working so I can start working 27 hours a day plus a pub job plus being a male prostitute to get back all my savings I've just spunked on the repairs.

[cort16]

What's the bastard worth with a knackered engine? Could you stick on ebay and get like £500 for it then take the £600 you'd be spending on a new engine + plus money and hassle of fixing it and move on with your life and pretend it didn't happen/never speak of it again.

I've had to do this with cars in the past and sure it sucks donky dong at the time but once the horrible things out your life you can just move on.

[cort16]

Something like this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2001-ROVER-75-2-0 ... 19c4b920f2

[Pillock]

Well, with a £600 engine in, the car owes me £2400. It'll be worth £1800-£2000 on a private sale once fixed, maybe more if I sell it with warranty remaining on engine and turbo.

Knackered, I'll be worth probably £800 max and I've spent £1800 on the car and turbo work.

Benefits to both ways but I just want to get on with my life. First ever 8 page Autoshite thread I've ever started, and it's a tale of misery!

[cort16]

Sounds like you wouldn't that worse off if you got shot of it as is. It might be worth trying it on ebay, gumtree or something. If it sell as is for what you need then take the money and get something else much less broken and if it don't then get it fixed.

[Cavcraft]

Can I just suggest an 'option 8'?

 

Find another with short MOT/tax or slight damage. Run it round for a week or so to make sure all is well, remove engine, put into your's then strip and weigh in the remains.

[Pillock]

Can I just suggest an 'option 8'?

 

Find another with short MOT/tax or slight damage. Run it round for a week or so to make sure all is well, remove engine, put into your's then strip and weigh in the remains.

 

There's hardly anything out there..... short MoT stuff is approaching 1300-1500 quid for any model with this engine (Octavia, Leon, Toledo), slight damage also seems to get waved off. The only thing that seems to make them cheap is a totally borked engine, or being wrapped around a lamppost

[trigger]

Bodge it back together, fill it with some Wynn's to quieten it down an try webuyanyshitcar.com, Mind you I've just done a quick check on there for it and they will only give you £645 less £49.99 admin fee so it's not really worth it.

[tonedepear]

Something like this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2001-ROVER-75-2-0 ... 19c4b920f2

 

Phwoaar. What a colour.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Option 7 is far and away the best.

[Mr Lobster]

I'd go with Option 7 tbh. At least once its done you should have a decent, relable car.

[Pillock]

Option 9 - invent a time machine, and spend the same amount of money that this heap will eventually cost me on something much, much better.

 

7 it is then.

[Pillock]

 

That is all.

[retrogeezer]

bit of a top fella is Albert isn't he.....maybe one day I will get to meet him.

 

So how much was the engine in the end?

[Pillock]

Too much!! Six hundred notes for a 77k with DMF, diesel pump, injectors and a new(ish) cambelt.

I'll make some back on the old bits. Diesel pump, injectors and head should make a couple of hundred or so, sadly the DMF appears to be royally screwed on the original engine.

[forddeliveryboy]

My MoT man says Seats are trouble, unlike Skodas and some other VW stuff. Small modern Audis bad too. Sell yer Seat and get a Golf - my TDi cost £270 40,000 miles ago and has needed just £16 spending on it (strut top mounts) beyond the usual tyre stuff and a set of front pads. Fitting a pair of front susp arms for the next test, they're £40.

[trigger]

I was enjoying that video until i saw Albert's hairy arse crack, I don't think anyone needs to see that!.

 

Mind you he is quick, 34 seconds to change a engine is pretty impressive going i think.