nigel bickle Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Yes- Sky as showing death, on a massive scale -BBC News are showing a Science fair. Looks truly awful
Captain Mainwaring Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 The shit really seems to be hitting the fan in global terms at the minute. Poor Japanese.
michiel Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Tsunami alarms all over the globe... must be very scary to see that much water coming at you.
RedSparrow Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Yeah poor bastards. Some incredible pictures on the news, cars bobbing up and down in the water and helicopters following the tsunami across the land. Devastating.
ChinaTom Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 My hotel room overlooks the Mekong estuary and the level rose - not dramatically, but the moored boats were stretched on their ropes first one way, then 20 minutes later, the other way. Surreal, but no drama. There was another quake yesterday in YingJiang in Yunnan, SW China - not so high on the scale, but much shallower. 2 of the factories I used to visit have had their chimneys down, and massive structual damage to the boiler houses. Unbelievably, the boilers held otherwise there would have been bigger trouble. 10's of thousands perished, some of which I'm sure I knew and was good friends with. Amazing coverage on BBC World, but I wish they'd stop talking about the bloody stock exchanges - there are 100's of thousands of folk in serious trouble, many of which already succumbed. I don't really think it is necessary to see a hyper over excited financial correspondent pulling himself off over the Yen dropping like a stone. Thoughtless twats. F*ck me - Stephen Sacker has just boasted abouted having the "very best pictures" from the "drama unfolding" in Japan. Jesus wept, what is happening to the BBC? Yeah man, let's go see some death. They're actually enjoying it.
scooters Posted March 11, 2011 Author Posted March 11, 2011 The distasteful thing about 24 hour news channels is the almost gleeful voyeristic attitude one picks up from some of the journalists - I suppose when one's career can me made by reporting a tradgedy first it can be difficult to keep the eagerness out of your voice but I believe things have got ridiculous. I sam one journalist saying how "amazing" the pictures of the flood sweeping away a number of (moving) vehicles - no mention about the poor sods inside he could have been describing a firework display rather than a human catastrophe on an apocryphyl scale. Once it is over the ghouls will descend to get "human stories" - make some poor bugger who has lost their entire family talk about and confess thier anguish for the rest of the world - since Princess Di you have to show that you are suffering, you have to share your grief with us - we have a right to your suffering - or so these feckers would have you believe. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth..... the channels could do a lot worse and improve the training of their journalists - start by watching Burke's reporting of the Ethiopian famine - to the point and tragic - not this sensationalist ghoulish glee - sorry to hear about your mates CT - I hope they and all will be ok but it is unfolding on an horrific scale. aye Rich
barrett Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 This:http://mobile.twitter.com/BreakingNews/statuses/46165953683263489 Is terrifying
ChinaTom Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Those plants are build to withstand just about anything - I would be very surprised if anything went bang. They shut-down automatically during these catastrophies and the reports of cooling systems not working means they are in manual mode, and in this case, much of the remotely accessible info is inaccessible leading some people (BBC) to think it's stopped. It's like an aeroplane that loses power - the instruments go blank, but there is a little propellor under the fusilage that supplies enough power to keep the plane flying in full manual mode. Japanese NPP's have more back-up systems than an airport full of planes. They build them on the coast fully aware they are in a tsunami area But, I agree, it is terrifying.
RedSparrow Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Another thing to remember is that this gives Colonel Gadaffi an ideal opportunity to do whatever he wants to take back land while the whole world is distracted for a couple of days. I have always found it amazing how quickly news stories are dropped and forgotten about within hours.
trigger Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 This is so frighting, it's 8000 times more powerful then the Christchurch one which is a terrifying thought. I've just been watching the live reports on the BBC site, there's massive fires now engulfing the area, Never seen anything like it. I wonder what affect it will have on the rest of the world as well?.
mattblack Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Has the BBC mentioned it being caused by global warming yet?
ashmicro Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 The level of cretinousness from the BBC today is breathtaking, even for them. Where the fuck do they think one obtains the huge quantities of water for cooling any type of power station? Or the water required to generate steam for the turbines? Demineralised water doesn't come in litre bottles from Tesco.
Negative Creep Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Without wishing to be glib, if any country on the planet is prepped for an earthquake it's Japan. Only so much you can do though........................
autofive Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 when you have millions of people eaking out an existence clinging to the side of a volcano these things will happen the nuclear power station has no power, they can not cool the reactor rods - no matter what they try wonder if bbc will be showing The China Syndrome tonight?
Station Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 I don't even know what's going on in that picture. I was watching BBC News this morning as it broke and they were only showing dramatic pictures of fires, probably preparing for it to be a truly massive disaster.
ashmicro Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 the nuclear power station has no power, they can not cool the reactor rods - no matter what they try Fret not, A5, there are contingenies (even on non-nuke plants) for these things. The IAEA requires them for nukes, in this case. I wasn't able to see from the TV pictures what size the tank farm was/how damaged it may have been, so it's hard to say how much water they have available. In the Three Mile Island incident, the reactor is believed to mave lost between 30 to 40 percent of it's fissile material, but because very little of it was solids, no real maeasurable environmental damage was recorded, and the 31 EPA monitoring sites recorded nothing much above normal background radiation levels. I'm sure the Japanese are on top of it.
oldford Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 That's an awful tradegy, that puts all our problems into perspective.
Rusty Pelican Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 No access to TV untill just now , What a terrible mess , Awful
morris_ital_lover Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Absolutely horrific... and there I was trying to eat my breakfast watching people driving not quite fast enough to escape a burning tidal wave of houses, cars, boats and everything else under the sun. As for the coverage... I was half expecting one of the 24 hour news cretins to grab someone and say "look I've caught a victim", this is real life not some vanity competition for who can find the first crying child. Good luck to all those who are still alive and rest in peace to those who are no longer with us. m0rris
fotorabia Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Tsunamis really bring it all back..whoosh..your all gone..the media saturation of our lil wobble here is just ridiculous..the Face of The Looters..turned out to be a autistic lad who collected old light fittings..the cops kicked the shit out of him as well..now its..oh mate..Christchurch still will hold the rugby world cup..even tho the stadiums trashed and theres no hotels..but oh no mate..rugby is more important than getting peoples homes sorted out..and we ve noticed in the death lists..that White Anglo Locals get listed first..then in small letters the foreigners at the end..stating their gender as well..Our PM john Key has been all business focused about the event as well..its all dollars n figures..hes actually come off lookin quite bad..and the Earthquake Minister..Jerry Brownlee Fat Bastard..is also Minister of Mining..making him Chief of Destruction on Upper and Lower levels..
Cavcraft Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Jesus wept, they've just shown video footage of an explosion at that nuclear plant. Apparantly the main (or most dangerous) part of the work there is carried out underground so it might not be as bad as it looks. Reports have said (so far) four people injured, looking at the exlposion as it happened I hope to God there are no more casualties but it certainly didn't look good.
ashmicro Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Aye, on telly now Billy. Very little work being done here at our powerplant, as all the TVs a re on. Predictably, the Bearded Ones at Greenpeace have been quick to make political capital out of all this. After all, even they couldn't make a link to global warming=earthquake, so an unstable reactor is the next best thing.
Cavcraft Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Anyone trying to make some sort of 'political' capital out of this shouldn't be given airtime imho. Just now on the news they've said they had to release a cloud of radioactive gas to relieve pressure and try and keep the place cool. Evacuation zones have been extended and some told to move have now been told to stay indoors. The scenes earlier of farmland and buildings being swept away were almost unreal, God alone knows what it must be like for the people there.
Guest Leonard Hatred Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 STV news interviewed a Japanese waitress at a Glasgow sushi restaurant yesterday. Local angle. The videos I've seen are spine tingling, it's hard to comprehend that it's not CGI footage from some disaster movie.
scooters Posted March 12, 2011 Author Posted March 12, 2011 Aye, on telly now Billy. Very little work being done here at our powerplant, as all the TVs a re on. Predictably, the Bearded Ones at Greenpeace have been quick to make political capital out of all this. After all, even they couldn't make a link to global warming=earthquake, so an unstable reactor is the next best thing. soap dodging pricks....I've been spending quite a lot of time with nulcear pump design engineering in the last 3-6 months and the safety standards are very high - bear in mind that a 30foot fuckinng wave travelling at 70 mph hit those buildings and they are still in one piece. Updates now saying that the explosion on the telly was not related to a core meltdown - the experts informing all that the reactors are actually all shut down. More pish and wind seems to be talked about power generation than anything else - fat is we NEED nuclear power - it is the only clean and reliable source - 112 new reactors will be built by 2030 - 11 in the UK - already decided at PM level the government are forced to cover this by makinng a song and dance about a few fucking windmills and some wave machines. Personally I think these windmills are a fucking blight and the carbon footptint in constructing them almost exceeds their lifetime output. A power expert I heard interviewed on Radio 4 last month scoffed at a sandal wearing lentil muncher who was pontificating about how they should be building off shore wave machines off the Shetland isles - he asked the tree hugging beard if he'd ever sailed in those waters - of course the green voting numpty said he hadn't - well, explain how the fuck you're gonna build a 10 mile long turbine machine in seas and wind that are typically gale-hurricane force for around 8 months of the year? Also - the power outrput of such a plant would be a fraction of the wattage we need. What these Type 2 driving, faux retro smelly horribles don't get into their thick single issue fanatic skulls is that we have NO CHOICE but to build nuclear power unless you want Mr Putin to be boiling your fucking lentils for the next 50 years at £10 a therm.....Pricks..... That's another thing...by munching all these mung beans, brown rice and fucking lentils THEY are adding to green house gasses - I mean it takes FUCKIN hours to cook these fekkers - why can't they stick to celery??? Selfish arses in their Priuses..... cunts making fucking political capital out of an act of nature/god - they should be sent over there with a fucking mop and told to start sweeping up
RedSparrow Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Spot on scooters. Also, its worth remembering that a wind turbine actually never actually pays back its own carbon footprint, much like Toyota Priuses, because their manufacture is so damaging.
synx508 Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Nuclear power is a good idea and the newer designs are getting really efficient and really quite safe. Unfortunately it seems the unit they're having trouble with is 40 year old atomshite and of a design that requires power to be present during the entire 7-day shutdown process. Once they'd lost the diesels, batteries and apparently had problems dumping their boron-rich US Navy panic coolant in, something was bound to break. So, while it might not be an "omg nukular splosion", it's definitely a catastrophe and no longer a controlled situation. The designers would have preferred to never test some of the safety features that are currently in operation. It would be reassuring to know that blowing the roof and walls out was part of the safety shutdown plan.Luckily it's not soviet-style atomshite, so even if it does get a bit toasty it won't spit too much radioactive material into the atmosphere.
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