Van road tax

[JJ0063]

Help, please…

Are there actually vans these days where the tax is less than £345 a year or whatever it’s gone up to? 
 

Vehicle Smart app says Euro 4 or 5 will pay £140 a year but literally every reg I’ve checked has been the higher rate. 
 

Mrs JJ wants to get a little van for work - Caddy, Berlingo, Partner sort of thing but doesn’t want to pay £345 a year. I know there’s the car versions to get round it to an extent, but she’d prefer to just buy a proper van. 
 

Cheers

[ruffgeezer]

Van tax has always been dearer. Even when you could buy a little C2 1.4 diesel van, it was nearly £200 a year to tax compared to £30 for the car equivalent. 

I reckon that's why you hardly ever see the small vans nowadays. 

[Popsicle]

I think they are all £345, except for a couple of small windows like 2003-2006 euro 4's are £140 and 2009-2010 euro 5's are also £140.

The only things I know of that fit those windows are not things you'd want, like a 1.9 tdi PD Caddy with a DPF.

[autopaul]

My T5 is £140 - kn60bsz. So id suspect any 2010/2011 2.0tdi transporters would be the same.

 

It does show £335 on the online checker I use. But it's 100% £140

[JJ0063]

35 minutes ago, autopaul said:

My T5 is £140 - kn60bsz. So id suspect any 2010/2011 2.0tdi transporters would be the same.

 

It does show £335 on the online checker I use. But it's 100% £140

Interesting! I wonder if there’s an online checker which shows the correct amount.. I’d specifically look for a caddy sized van for her that is in the cheaper band..

[JJ0063]

https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/citroen-berlingo-panel-van-2012-manual-1560-cc/1495872963??utm_source=unknown&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=app_ios&utm_medium=Social

this sort of thing would be ideal but is it actually £345 a year? Who knows?!

[Popsicle]

From the Gov.uk website.

You want to be checking between the dates for each van and its Euro rating to find a cheaper to tax one.

[Mrcento]

1 hour ago, Popsicle said:

From the Gov.uk website.

You want to be checking between the dates for each van and its Euro rating to find a cheaper to tax one.

Have to laugh at how completely 'make it up as you go along' the UK tax system is.

Can have 2 near identical vans produced in 2006 and 2007 and the 2007 one would randomly be double to tax than the 2006 one despite it meeting the exact same criteria emissions wise v one that was made in 2006 and qualifies for the lower tax level, purely because it was registered a few months later.

Disco 3s are a nightmare for that too, early ones all fall in a lowish tax bracket then get stung for the full £735 (i think it is now) if the otherwise identical model was registered after the clock struck 12 one day in 2007.

[Popsicle]

6 minutes ago, Mrcento said:

Have to laugh at how completely 'make it up as you go along' the UK tax system is.

Can have 2 near identical vans produced in 2006 and 2007 and the 2007 one would randomly be double to tax than the 2006 one despite it meeting the exact same criteria emissions wise v one that was made in 2006 and qualifies for the lower tax level, purely because it was registered a few months later.

Disco 3s are a nightmare for that too, early ones all fall in a lowish tax bracket then get stung for the full £735 (i think it is now) if the otherwise identical model was registered after the clock struck 12 one day in 2007.

Yea its a bit farcical for commercials and the £700 stuff. I remember years ago going from a 57 plate to a 10 plate Sprinter, at the time I never understood why the 10 plate was half the price of the 57 plate for tax.

One of the nice things about the 14 plate Passat estate I've recently picked up is the £35 pa tax, paid it in one go, felt a right flash git 😂.

[JJ0063]

2 hours ago, Popsicle said:

From the Gov.uk website.

You want to be checking between the dates for each van and its Euro rating to find a cheaper to tax one.

So the long and short of it is no van 2011 onwards will be anything other than £345? What a shitter!

[Popsicle]

18 minutes ago, JJ0063 said:

So the long and short of it is no van 2011 onwards will be anything other than £345? What a shitter!

Fraid so mate, like @Mrcento said it all is a bit 'make it up as you go along' from the powers that be.

I think the reduced tax for euro 5 applied to early adopters of DPF equipped vans, so probably best avoided TBH. I know it was an option on my Caddy, but from what I've read they tend to be problematic as the PD engine was never designed to have a DPF. Not sure if its similar with other makes.

 

[leakingstrut]

It gives an interesting storyline of the ever changing goalposts of government policy. 

We had a 2012 mk1 Pug 208 with a DV6 that wasn’t ULEZ compliant, but had free road tax. That got written off and replaced with the same car but 3 years newer which didn’t have free road tax but was ULEZ compliant! 

[Billy - Medhurst]

Hurts to a lesser degree if you do direct debit  over the year instead of a one off payment.