My Tipo 2.0 i.e Sedicivalvole

[Simon_punto]

https://www.pekidi.com/navi?FORCED=TRUE&SEARCH_TYPE=codpart&KEY=ADV_SEARCH&PART_COD=60508250&LANGUAGE=5&GUI_LANG=5&SAVE_PARAM=LANGUAGE
 

but throws up a load of adverts and is a pita

or

https://eper.fiatforum.com/en/Home/Index

I think you have to be a Fiat forum member to view

 

[Simon_punto]

16 minutes ago, mk2_craig said:

Your top wiring connector on the stereo looks fairly standard and common with some other cars of the era (Ford, Renner) the label on the back suggests the two larger terminals are earth and live - not sure whether switched live or permanent live. The other three are illumination, then another live and a 12v out power aerial feed I think, though not 100% sure it’s in that order. 

The four bottom pairs of sockets look like they are the speaker feeds, again a standard connector ( the name escapes me ) and new ones readily available on eBay.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255761699085

I see there are another six terminals to the right of the fuse which look unfamiliar. At a guess maybe related to some form of amplifier or additional speakers, tweeters perhaps? 

Thanks.

ill need to have a proper look into it, and get a Haynes.

the Ariel lead survives in the car undamaged so that’s a bonus

 

[Simon_punto]

18 minutes ago, IronStar said:

Maybe a bit cheeky, but would you point me in the direction of EPER that can decrypt build date for Fiat group or a few vins for me please? I’m interested my own cars

 

[IronStar]

Just now, Simon_punto said:

 

TA!

[Homersimpson]

I bought one of these back around 2006 and put the engine into a Ferrari Dino replica as it shared the same bolt patten for the gearbox with a Lancia Beta which the kitcar was based on.

 

The Tipo had been side swiped and was in a bit of a state, heres a much younger me putting the engine in and wiring it up.

I used the entire engine management system, ECU etc.  I remember having a problem where the crank sensor and lambda sensor had the same plugs and I got them swapped over, that took me ages to find. 

Apart from the damage the Tipo looked a really nice car.

[Simon_punto]

Woke up this morning to a WhatsApp message from one of the Fiat techs at my old work….

 

[Zelandeth]

That looks like a fun thing.  I never knew that model existed to be honest.  Guessing then that the engine in this is what the very popular Fiat/Lancia twin cam of the 70s/80s evolved into? 

All Fiats of that time period seem to be really nice things to drive, old neighbour had a Tempra estate with basically every option available ticked.  It was a really pleasant thing to drive, and seemed to have way more room in the back than seemed possible given the exterior dimensions.

Only surprise looking at that and given how well kitted out it looks is they didn't put the digital dash in it, or would that have been seen as too futuristic and detached for what they were clearly pitching as a driver's car?

[Simon_punto]

1 hour ago, Zelandeth said:

That looks like a fun thing.  I never knew that model existed to be honest.  Guessing then that the engine in this is what the very popular Fiat/Lancia twin cam of the 70s/80s evolved into? 

All Fiats of that time period seem to be really nice things to drive, old neighbour had a Tempra estate with basically every option available ticked.  It was a really pleasant thing to drive, and seemed to have way more room in the back than seemed possible given the exterior dimensions.

Only surprise looking at that and given how well kitted out it looks is they didn't put the digital dash in it, or would that have been seen as too futuristic and detached for what they were clearly pitching as a driver's car?

When I was looking for a Tipo, it had to be either a DGT or a 16v. I wish it had a digi dash though. My dad had an 89 DGT and it was really cool. It broke a lot but it was cool, but the 16v has 3 separate gauges in a pod in the centre of the dash for oil pressure, oil temp and water temp to compensate.

[J-T]

2 hours ago, Zelandeth said:

That looks like a fun thing.  I never knew that model existed to be honest.  Guessing then that the engine in this is what the very popular Fiat/Lancia twin cam of the 70s/80s evolved into? 

All Fiats of that time period seem to be really nice things to drive, old neighbour had a Tempra estate with basically every option available ticked.  It was a really pleasant thing to drive, and seemed to have way more room in the back than seemed possible given the exterior dimensions.

Only surprise looking at that and given how well kitted out it looks is they didn't put the digital dash in it, or would that have been seen as too futuristic and detached for what they were clearly pitching as a driver's car?

The ‘cooking’ models had the digi dash. I think my dad’s was an SX and that had it. Used to go off at random. But it had a digital boost gauge so that kept me entertained.

[Zelandeth]

6 minutes ago, J-T said:

The ‘cooking’ models had the digi dash. I think my dad’s was an SX and that had it. Used to go off at random. But it had a digital boost gauge so that kept me entertained.

I do remember thinking when borrowing that one that reliability issues aside, Fiat really did a decent job of coming up with a seriously futuristic looking setup which actually did work far better in the real world than a lot of digital setups.  

Biggest problem I remember was the response time of the LCD elements becoming so slow at -10C (this was towards the north of the Aberdeenshire area) that the second digit in the speedometer and the rev counter became basically useless until the interior had started to warm up!

Did look incredibly cool though.  Have to admit that a Tempra does remain on my list pretty much purely because of that dash!

[IronStar]

Can the digidash be retrofitted? I saw a few digidash ones here being broken for parts or sold as an entire rusty car for not much.

I’m half way across Europe though.

[Simon_punto]

3 hours ago, IronStar said:

Can the digidash be retrofitted? I saw a few digidash ones here being broken for parts or sold as an entire rusty car for not much.

I’m half way across Europe though.

I need to find a Tipo breaking as I need the wiring plug for the standard radio. Cannot find one in the uk at all

[Simon_punto]

A few more wee bits done today on the car-

My older style replica plates arrived. I wanted the old style font with some sort of period correct Fiat logo at the bottom so had these made up and fitted them.
Also charged the battery right up and treated the leather on the steering wheel to leather cleaner and conditioner.

An owner in the past had painted the Fiat slats on the front grille Matt black, and I want it as close to original as possible, so I took it all apart and painted them Matt silver for just now.
In my opinion, the front of the car looks much better and less chavved up if that makes sense?

I’ll need to look out for a set of correct chrome slats, but like everything else, unobtainable unless from Italy with stupid postage costs.

[MAF260]

Do you want this for £15 posted? 1/24 scale. Even has the red tinted rear lights!

[tom13]

My older brother had one of these. It must have been around 2000. He wrote it off on a big crossroads by our house when someone jumped the lights.

I thought it was so cool and I have never seen another one on the road since. Even a normal Tipo is hard enough to see.

[omegod]

On 29/11/2024 at 23:15, Simon_punto said:

I need to find a Tipo breaking as I need the wiring plug for the standard radio. Cannot find one in the uk at all

Only Tipo I know of in a scrappy is in JT Wade breakers in Warrington , not planning on going anytime soon but will keep it in mind next time I'm there  

[Simon_punto]

6 hours ago, MAF260 said:

Do you want this for £15 posted? 1/24 scale. Even has the red tinted rear lights!

Thanks for the offer but I have one already 👍

[Simon_punto]

2 hours ago, omegod said:

Only Tipo I know of in a scrappy is in JT Wade breakers in Warrington , not planning on going anytime soon but will keep it in mind next time I'm there  

If you are going, can you message me. Just a couple of wee bits I need 🙏

[tul66]

I might have a Heynes manual for it somewhere, might be for the early ones though.

 

[AnthonyG]

The reason your car was unregistered for a year may be because I don’t think they were quick sellers, even if there were only 500 of them bought over. 

Apart from the Uno Turbo, which I’m not sure was still available in 1992, Fiat didn’t have a performance image. Also the GTI market boom was coming to an end in the early 1990s due to insurance costs, and even the big sellers like the XR3 etc were struggling. I expect insurance on one of these would have been considerably more than for a more well known model like the Golf GTI. Plus there was a short-lived recession in 90-92 which the country really only shook off a couple of years later. 

All in all, it wasn’t a great time to launch a limited performance version of a hatchback not made by one of the big players. I suspect the vast majority of Fiat dealers probably didn’t really understand how to market it to their customer base either. 

It’s a bit like the Talbot Sunbeam Lotus, they fetch silly money now, and Talbot won a rally championship with them, but due to the initial high price and the marginal value of the Talbot brand they took an absolute age to sell. They were all built before the factory that assembled them closed in late 1981, but many were unsold and the stock had to be refurbished and discounted heavily in 1983/4 to clear the decks. 

[Simon_punto]

My drivers side headlamp Has a stone chip in it, and trying to locate a headlamp for a mk1 prefacelift in RHD has been a pain in the arse.

luckily, eBay come up trumps for just £25 for a genuine one brand new 🙏

[Simon_punto]

So this is starting to go down the slippery slope that the Punto did……

Managed to find a set of new old stock rear mudflaps from Spain today, so jumped on them. When they will arrive, who knows?

I have a single Tipo mk1 front mudflap in my garage in my parts haul and I offered it up to the car and it wouldn’t fit the 16v due to the side skirts, plus it’s low and would be dragging the ground so no point finding/ ordering a new pair.

Im off for nearly 3 weeks over Christmas so plenty parts will be arriving to fit 👍

[MikeR]

 

I seem to remember the tipo had a auto choke operated by vacuum , design flaw was that it was a closed circuit , so once vacuum was put in , it had no way of letting air in to release the choke , I ended up putting in a small air leak so that the circuit released the choke , it also had a manifold air heater which would rattle its relay under the dash till I replaced the wires to it ..  the digi dash , had a darlington pair transistor to drive the bulbs  , it blew because it was pop riveted to the circuit board which formed the heatsink , the rivet loosened off , the transistor overheated and broke , a wire strap between C and E got the lights on again ..the digital temp gauge like the fuel gauge had a nasty habit of suddenly dropping 2 bars , not what you wanted to see on a late trip with 2 toddlers in the back ...

In all I found the Tipo bit of a disappointment  , even in the first week the lock motor on the hatch did a rapid disassembly , after that something always broke every month that seemed to cost 100 notes to fix .  

it was the last Fiat I bought  . That's what led to the farm fresh Volvo entering my life for 10 years .

[richbraith]

What a honey.  My Tipo wasn 't a fraction as nice as this and I loved it, there's a picture of it hanging in my hallway.  

Having a Tipo as your dream car is winning imo.

 

[Simon_punto]

8 minutes ago, richbraith said:

Having a Tipo as your dream car is winning imo.

 

Thank you. They are so rare now, I didn’t think I’d ever own one, especially a red one which was what I wanted. I just think it suits the red and makes it sportier looking if that makes sense