pogweasel Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 How long does it take for Haynes to get around to knocking up a manual these days? http://www.haynes.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stor ... &langId=-1 I need to do a service on my van, but there's not a book to cover it. Very helpful. They've only been on sale in the UK for 11 years. FFS.
Station Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Frustratingly, loads have not been covered. You'd seriously think they'd have done an MGF one, having had a 10 year life span, and still going. Have you tried the more comprehensive workshop manual route? http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=kang ... &_osacat=0
HillmanImp Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 Could not get a manual for my 2001 Xsara. Went up to 2000 i think. Had the old one, ran out of windscreen wash in the dark, popped the bonnet and filled the radiator up with Sainsbury's own fizzy water, on the way back from York as all the pipes had moved round. Luckily it was not the brake fluid. My thinking is Haynes manuals are dying out as you cant service cars on your own these days without some serious equipment. 'Amplify the PING machine!' Thats why you get all the wallets and t-shirts these days. Have no idea what this image is that i just cribbed from google. Some bizzarre python D&D game or something. But it IS the machine that goes PING!
ashmicro Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 My thinking is Haynes manuals are dying out as you cant service cars on your own these days without some serious equipment. Agreed. I've noticed increasing use in HBOL of "The xxx cannot be serviced by the home mechanic" On the positive side, there's a lot of info on the net in owners forums, and electronic workshop manuals are ten a penny on Fleabay. Have a pic. Summat like this is now a must too
r.welfare Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 Yes, get a workshop manual CD-ROM or DVD from eBay. 1000 times better than the current, "ooh you can't do that at home", spanner-rated, toilet-paper-printed RUBBISH that Haynes come up with for modern motors.
Milford Cubicle Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 How long does it take for Haynes to get around to knocking up a manual these days?http://www.haynes.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stor ... &langId=-1I need to do a service on my van, but there's not a book to cover it. Very helpful. They've only been on sale in the UK for 11 years. FFS.Is it that hard to find the filters on a modern engine?My old boss got in a bit of a huff because he couldn't find the fuel filter on his Defender TD5, after decades of servicing older Land Rovers and even rebuilding them.
warren t claim Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 What actually happens to the cars after they have been stripped and rebuilt by Haynes? Are they sold on through an auction? Would YOU buy one knowing its history? Do they declare the cars past when selling?
Ratdat Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 I've finally decided I'm not bothering with any cars later than the 80's any more. Makes life much easier!
FredTransit Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 What actually happens to the cars after they have been stripped and rebuilt by Haynes? Are they sold on through an auction? Would YOU buy one knowing its history? Do they declare the cars past when selling?I often wondered that. What happened to the 'models'?
Conrad D. Conelrad Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 What actually happens to the cars after they have been stripped and rebuilt by Haynes? Are they sold on through an auction? Would YOU buy one knowing its history? Do they declare the cars past when selling?This is one of the FAQs on their website:What happens to vehicles after they have been stripped down and rebuilt?We keep them and run them for a couple of months to make sure everything is OK. After that they are sold - quite often to Haynes staff, who appreciate the chance to buy a totally reconditioned vehicle - otherwise to the local motor trade.
Timewaster Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 How long does it take for Haynes to get around to knocking up a manual these days?I need to do a service on my van, but there's not a book to cover it. Very helpful. They've only been on sale in the UK for 11 years. FFS.God the number of times i've had to endure this rant! At least you have complained about it here and not done the usual thing of going into your local spares shop, and firstly asking why they dont have the manual for your 2 month old Toyota.Then follow that with a huge exasperated sigh and demand to know WHY haynes haven't done one yet and WHEN will it be done?Then when the poor downtrodden underpaid and disinterested sod behind the counter tries to explain how it is done on the number of vehicles sold and that the very day one is published,we will have it and can take your details and ring you as soon as get it, you should then procede to go into the same shop once a week for the next 6 bloody months and going through the entire conversation over again! I'm not bitter!
gearoil Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 Slightly off topic...Careful buying Haynes off ebay... my mate ended up with a softback American version for his Mk3 Supra.Total chod.
Station Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 Or Chiltons.Absolute rubbish. No wonder their cars drive like shit.
Milford Cubicle Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 Yeah those Chilton manuals are useless. I bought one for the 1985-1992 Subaru range. It was so vague I'd have been better off buying the manual for a BBC Micro or something.
pogweasel Posted October 10, 2009 Author Posted October 10, 2009 Hmm, these electonic manuals are all well and good but not entirely helpful for reference when I am lying in the gutter under the car. Nothing like a good (i.e. old) Haynes with it's water / oil resistant pages for tinkering. Still in this instance looks like I will be unlucky. Don't want to go in 'blind' really as aside from checking the fluids (and stealing electricity) I haven't had cause to venture under the Kangoo's bonnet thus far.....
ashmicro Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 Hmm, these electonic manuals are all well and good but not entirely helpful for reference when I am lying in the gutter under the car. Nothing like a good (i.e. old) Haynes with it's water / oil resistant pages for tinkering. Still in this instance looks like I will be unlucky. Don't want to go in 'blind' really as aside from checking the fluids (and stealing electricity) I haven't had cause to venture under the Kangoo's bonnet thus far.....Do what I do - print off the relevant section, do the job and then chuck the hardcopy away.
Station Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 We had one of those laser printers in work that got the toner changed every week, so I used to print off whole manuals, double sided and then binded just like a book!
warren t claim Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 Whenever I go to buy a car and the vendor is chucking the Haynes manual in with the car I always flick through it to see where the oily fingerprints are. Then I make a judgement as to the intelligence and mechanical aptitude of the vendor, people who are as thick as two short planks should not attempt a head gasket swap on a Rover 800 etc.
MrDuke Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 This is causing immense frustration for me too. I can kind of understand it in my case, as they were never that common on UK roads, but my only alternative is to buy a Toyota factory manual for £££s off evilBay.The most irritating thing is that the engine & running gear is incredibly simple (how many cars were still running carbs with manual chokes in '91?) - what I really need help with, is removing the dash and door trim without destroying large pieces of it...
Conrad D. Conelrad Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 Whenever I go to buy a car and the vendor is chucking the Haynes manual in with the car I always flick through it to see where the oily fingerprints are. Then I make a judgement as to the intelligence and mechanical aptitude of the vendor, people who are as thick as two short planks should not attempt a head gasket swap on a Rover 800 etc. I threw in the well used Haynes manual when I sold my last car. Beforehand I was careful to hold it by the cover and shake it to remove dozens of my custom wiring diagrams crudely penned on bits of scrap paper. Once bought a manual for a Chevette which had oily fingerprints covering almost every page, and in the inside front cover, a running DIY service history for what must have been the least reliable car in history. I've never felt so sorry for someone I've never met.
Negative Creep Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 Am I the only one who always keeps the Haynes books when I sell a car? Just need to source a Nova, mk.1 Clio and Almera to have the complete set (presuming they made them)
Mr Lobster Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 No, I always keep them as well. I work on the basis that 'you never know if you might buy another of that model' and then they'd come in handy!
AXrescuer Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 These any good to you? http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trks ... Categories
pogweasel Posted October 11, 2009 Author Posted October 11, 2009 Nope, they only go up to 2002 and cover the older 1900na deeezel and 1200 pez versions. Mine is an '05' reg with the 1.5DCi common rail type dizzla.
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