Another Scrappage victim..........

[FredTransit]

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C116709/

Only 1750 miles on the clock - yes you are not dreaming - mileage is only 1750;1275 cc ; met green; one lady owner from new;mot april 2010;rescued from scrappage deal;very clean; scratch on n/side rear; absolutely genuine; first to see will buy;no road tax. Please call to view the car.

 

5 big ones though.

I rest my case. A classic example of the foolish general public not seeing past next week, let alone trying to sell on the car they chuck into the deal. I hope it makes the 5 large, just to spite the thick bint who chucked it away.

[Guest]

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C116709/

Only 1750 miles on the clock - yes you are not dreaming - mileage is only 1750;1275 cc ; met green; one lady owner from new;mot april 2010;rescued from scrappage deal;very clean; scratch on n/side rear; absolutely genuine; first to see will buy;no road tax. Please call to view the car.

 

5 big ones though.

I rest my case. A classic example of the foolish general public not seeing past next week, let alone trying to sell on the car they chuck into the deal. I hope it makes the 5 large, just to spite the thick bint who chucked it away.

It'll go for something, but not 5k. I'm not particularly fond of Minis, but you'd get MOAR than 2k for that...

[Station]

And it'll end up with horrid plastic arches, Cooper stripes, minilites, and possibly a chequered roof.

[Guest]

And it'll end up with horrid plastic arches, Cooper stripes, minilites, and possibly a chequered roof.

Yep.

[Station]

I thought Tony Hawks was a skateboarder...

 

Morris Minor and the Majors was a band led by the comedian and writer Tony Hawks (not to be confused with the skater Tony Hawk).

[Volksy]

And it'll end up with horrid plastic arches, Cooper stripes, minilites, and possibly a chequered roof.

Bovvered.. At least it will still be on the road.

[STUNO]

In a nasty way I would like to make the owner watch it being crushed while being told it was worth? 5000 .

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Cheer up you miserable gits, its clearly come from some clueless old biddy, I wouldnt be surprised if the salesman who organised her new car was rubbing his hands when that rocked up, even the most sharp-suited big-tie-knotted 22-yr old Kia salesman knows that nice minis are worth serious coin.

[Pillock]

Indeed, for it to have been 'rescued' from the scrappage scheme the salesman needs to have never put it through, and then found £2000 to give the old biddy to keep her happy. Chances are it came from the pocket of someone at the dealership, knowing they can make their two large back plus profit.

[trigger]

This will piss a few of you off, How about this mint Nissan Bluebird 1.6 LS with only 35k on it at U-Pull-It, Never seen one that looks so clean.

 

 

Check out how clean the engine bay is! , What a waste of a perfectly good car.

[trigger]

This MGB looks pretty tidy as well, I might not be a fan of these but even this one looks to good to be scrapped, The wheels must be a worth a bit on there own!.

 

[retrogeezer]

Jeez, that Bluebird is a total minter and would have probably outlasted whatever POS has replaced it.

[FredTransit]

I am really getting disturbed by U pull it, I know they are o9nly doing a job but I am not too sure I happy could dismantle a car or van that's better than one I have on the road.

[Mr Lobster]

That Bluebird is VERY clean. At £150.00 it a very good source of parts for a Bluebird owner though...

[Mr Lobster]

I am really getting disturbed by U pull it, I know they are o9nly doing a job but I am not too sure I happy could dismantle a car or van that's better than one I have on the road.

No but as I have said before, it's better that they are offering the opportunity to at least get parts from the cars rather than just sending them straight to scrap. It's not UPI that are condemning the cars in the first place, thats the owners fault.

[Mr Lobster]

This looks a pretty tidy thing too...

 

 

 

http://www.u-pull-it.co.uk/searchLot.ht ... d=18370869

[Pete-M]

That Bluebird is VERY clean. At £150.00 it a very good source of parts for a Bluebird owner though...

It wasn't worth £2k, therefore it was liable to die. It's that simple.Keeps on happening, threads all over the web about how shit it is when cars get scrappaged, but if that Bluebird was advertised at £2k it wouldn't sell. NO way. The Practical Classics brigade had a major thrombie about some bloody Triumph Mayflower being 'scrappaged' but when one was offered for free they wouldn't take it.Makes no sense to me at all. I like old cars and don't like to see them scrapped (hence me having the P4 and P5, one was heading for scrap, the other was owned by someone who thought it'd look good on wolfrace, jacked up and matt black..) so I saved 'em. Thing is, if I've still got them in 8 months time, and I'm having trouble selling them for anything less than sensible money, I'll quite probably scrappage 'em myself as I'm pretty much losing the will to carry on selling cars to the general public. Everything I've advertised in the last few months has been a good few hundred quid less than 'book' price and every time Joe Public has turned up to view they've tried to knock unreasonable amounts of money off. My Mk1 Golf GTi, for example, £2500 all day long. It's been worth that for years. Public turned up a few times and tried to get it for less than half that, in the end it went to a motor trader for £2000 who's going to use it himself, he didn't even come to see it. Sent a driver to collect.. The P6. Advertised at £1195, cheap car. Couple of complete muppets trying to steal it "I'll give you £600 for it, cash, now", "Can you bring it to Luton so I can have a look?", "Can you deliver it to Hamburg, I'll pay for the ferry, you pay for fuel?". First trader who saw it got the cash out and paid for it there and then.I've just been informed on another forum that "one of the rules for buying cars is to not buy anything of an ad that only has a mobile number". So now, to deal with the public I need to get another landline in? Fuck that. Virtually nobody has my home number, I'm not going to shove it in a load of adverts just to keep some haggle hungry Herbert happy. The landline is for emergency use. I'm never in the bloody house, and I'm not paying 10p a minute to have it diverted to my mobile while a bunch of tightwadded timewasters try to chip 40% off whatever I advertise anything for.Ooops, got a bit ranty there.

[retrogeezer]

It wasn't worth £2k, therefore it was liable to die. It's that simple.

Nope, it wasn't. But as I said, it is probably a far better car than the Kia or Hyundai that replaced it and that is the shame. The owners of these things can't see past the 'ooh, a brand new car for 2 grand off' bollox.

[Mr Lobster]

Well said Pete, can't disagree with any of that.Anything worth less than £2k is at risk of being scrapped. If I wanted to buy a new car and I had something worth £500 sat around then from a financial point of view scrapping it makes sense unfortunately. The Bluebird would, with a bit of care probably be a better car and have a good few years in front of it but some people just see it as an old car and want a new car whatever it is.To someone who is not an enthusiast, the Bluebird however clean it might be is just an old car, and an old car thats worth nothing like £2k so if they want a new car on the scrappage scheme then it will get scrapped. Yes it's a shame and it's wasteful but if you are the owner, looking to buy a new car and can get £2k for scrapping it then thats exactly what most people will do. On the mobile thing, I never advertise my home number either. I'm out of the house at least 12 hours a day so my mobile is actually the easiest way to contact me. Very very few people have my home number and even fewer actually ring me on it. If you shouldn't be buying cars with only mobile numbers in the ad then I won't be selling much in future.

[Pete-M]

I've just had a little mini-rant about the landline number thing and got this in reply..

A reputable trader will almost certainly value the convenience of their mobile phone, and there's no harm in the usual trick of having one card for each car on sale, but an honest, professional seller would provide a landline if only to demonstrate that they're not some scheister dealing off their neighbours' driveway.

Y'know what? I'm going to be extra nasty to the public from now on. I'm entitled to a landline free with the cable interweb. I'll get it switched on, and just divert it to the mobile 24/7. Anyone rings on the diverted number I'll scream at them and call 'em a cheapskate cunt for not ringing the mobile....

[retrogeezer]

[Guest]

I wouldn't take to heart what some tosser on a forum says, fact is that most people don't give their landline unless they absolutely have to - I certainly wouldn't want a load of plebs ringing me up on something that I can't just turn off when I'm not in the mood. If that means that someone doesn't ring me up because they think I might be "dodgy", sod them, imagine trying to sell a car to someone with a mindset like that. Good riddance!As for selling cars - in for a penny, in for a pound, I think! That's the ultimate consequence of buying something that isn't a Corsa 1.2 with power steering. When I've had my fill of the Stanza and decide to sell it, I have no doubt it will be a complete ballache - it has very little going for it: it's not a hatchback, it's on high-rate tax, it's a bit scruffy in places, it has little appeal to both budget motorists and the retro crowd, it doesn't even have Irish drift tax because it's FWD. I can't really think of a driveable MOTed car that would be much harder to sell. But I wasn't under any illusions at the start, cars like that are always going to be a pain and I'll be sat on it for many months I reckon.Even stuff that is held in high regard can be a ballache, when I had the Cuore TR-XX up for sale some months ago I got a fair few calls, but most of them were just curious timewasters who just wondered what they were like, asked loads of questions, sounded hugely interested, then ultimately changed their minds on a whim. I let the advert lapse in the end, it'll be back up for sale again shortly. A new round of messers, bring it on!

[FredTransit]

The thing is, you can get a discount off a new car without cashing in a perfectly usable car (classic or otherwise) and still sell the car. The numbers add up the same, or better.

[Mr Lobster]

The thing is, you can get a discount off a new car without cashing in a perfectly usable car (classic or otherwise) and still sell the car. The numbers add up the same, or better.

You can yes. BUT, you'll get nothing like £2k off the majority of stuff that is being bought under the scrappage scheme - small, economical cars. If you are buying a new car for £7k then you *might* get a couple of hundred quid knocked off. You certainly won't haggle anywhere near to £2k off anything that costs less than £10k. For something like a Fiat 500 then you'd be lucky to get anything at all so for someone looking to buy something new, small and cheap the scrappage scheme is probably a bit of a bonus for them. Saves them money and the hassle of having to sell a car privately.

[FredTransit]

not saying you will get two grand off, the dealers are liable for a grand of that, so asking for that should be easy. If they are offering scrappage, they have to swallow a grand of the scheme's discount, and many dealers are offering more. The government is only giving them a grand back.

[r.welfare]

Oh God, not this again... :roll:The bulk of the vehicles sold for which scrappaged motors have been traded in just don't have the margins in 'em for the dealer to give £2k off. It's been mentioned many, many times in this thread already.

[FredTransit]

As I said, not expecting them to give two grand off, just the grand they WOULD have been liable for IF they sold the car through the scrappage scheme If they can't afford that, how is the scrappage scheme helping them? They have to pay a grand of the scrappage scheme out of thier own pockets anyway, so what's the difference?

[dollywobbler]

Fred - I've said this once but it's my final offer! The dealer does NOT put anything into scrappage. It's the manufacturer and the government. Sometimes the dealer does contribute - so you might see £2500 or even £3000 off a car - but they're not going to do that on a bleedin' Kia Picanto.

[Spottedlaurel]

But the dealers don’t give that £1000 amount!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It comes from the manufacturer.Clean as that Bluebird is, it’s no surprise to see it there. As I said on OJC, mine is hardly any less clean, it’s a better trim level but I bet if/when I have to sell it on the open market I’ll be lucky to get £3-400 for it. Sold my last one for £250. Stupid as it is, as I agree it is a very useable car, not many people want this sort of stuff.

[FredTransit]

OK the manufacturer then, the government doesn't stump up the whole two grand. A grand (and often more) comes out of somebody's pocket, so if the new car is available through the scrappage scheme, at least a grand has to be found from the profit. Does that not make sense?