Another Scrappage victim..........

[pogweasel]

Now she's got a 107. Which works.

Until the accelerator jams open and she dies a terrible death. THX TOYOTA.

[dollywobbler]

S'alright. I think she's sensible enough to turn off the engine if it did the whole not-stopping thing.

[Roc 24v]

Now she's got a 107. Which works.

Until the accelerator jams open and she dies a terrible death. THX TOYOTA.

Hopefully it's a manual box car without ESP, it'll be fine then.My C1 is fine, bog standard cable pedal Just like it should be.

[CortinaDave]

If the GTI is in for scrappage its not had the kiss of death yet.. its still taxed:The enquiry is complete The vehicle details for A961 VVX are: Date of Liability 01 08 2010 Date of First Registration 23 09 1983 Year of Manufacture 1983 Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1780CC CO2 Emissions Not Available Fuel Type Petrol Export Marker Not Applicable Vehicle Status Licence Not Due Vehicle Colour WHITE Vehicle Type Approval Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle 6 Months Rate £104.50 12 Months Rate £190.00

[FredTransit]

Tax can only be redeemed by the registered keeper now, so if it had rent on it when it went in, it will probably stay with the car.

[Milford Cubicle]

Spotted today in the scrappage car compound of the local Nissan Stealership, I didnt go in and ask if it was a scrappage car (though given what was parked up around it I assumed it was) as we have had "words" in the past and I dont think I am welcome back there.....

Poor Primera P10.

[CortinaDave]

Suggests its not wastage scheme then as surely any sensible person would redeem it before taking it in.

[Cavcraft]

Spotted today in the scrappage car compound of the local Nissan Stealership, I didnt go in and ask if it was a scrappage car (though given what was parked up around it I assumed it was) as we have had "words" in the past and I dont think I am welcome back there.....

So it's not all bad news this scrappage malarkey then?

[retrogeezer]

Tax can only be redeemed by the registered keeper now, so if it had rent on it when it went in, it will probably stay with the car.

How thick are some people eh.....£150 sitting there for sticking in an envelope.

[FredTransit]

Well if they are thick enough to be sucked in by the scrappage scheme, what do you think?

[warren t claim]

A tidy Mk1 Golf gti must be worth £1800 quid? Make them an offer!

[Milford Cubicle]

I don't think taking part in the scrappage scheme is necessarily thick or misguided, if you have a real baler of a car and want £2k off a new one it'd be pretty foolish not to 'scrappage' your car.

[FredTransit]

True, but how many cars that have been victims could have been sold for at least more than the two grand, and how many dealers would have given the discount anyway? How many pre reg'd cars could have been got for a lot less than the price of the new scrappaged ones?

[Tayne]

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[Milford Cubicle]

A chap I knew chopped in an utter heap of a Nissan Patrol for a Fiat Panda 4x4, I doubt a £2k discount would come easy on a wee car with small profit margins.

[FredTransit]

Fair enough, but what else could have have got for the same money, but that had been registered and on the lot for two months? Dealers are tripping over themselves to get rid of cars like that, no scrappage on em so the hype isn't there for them!

[warren t claim]

I hope you're all sitting down.....A former boss of mine went to buy a new Passat and when he asked what would happen to his 03 plate Golf 1.6 prtrol the dealer told him they would scrappage it as it is so much cheaper and easier than sending it to the auctions or trying to retail it! AN 03 PLATE GOLF! FFS!!!

[Tayne]

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[Tayne]

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[FredTransit]

AN 03 PLATE GOLF! FFS!!!

Something a bit wrong there, its not old enough to scrappage.I'd be keeping the Golf and asking for £1750 of a discount at that point.

Correct, how are they gonna get the grand back from the gov for something that's only 7 years old?

[warren t claim]

I am only saying what I've been told but don't the government only provide about £840 once the VAT element is taken into consideration?

[Pillock]

AN 03 PLATE GOLF! FFS!!!

Something a bit wrong there, its not old enough to scrappage.I'd be keeping the Golf and asking for £1750 of a discount at that point.

Correct, how are they gonna get the grand back from the gov for something that's only 7 years old?

They're not going to scrappage it, that's just a sly "Aaah, your old motor is so rubbish and worthless, we're doing you a favour by letting you buy this new car" line.

[Richard]

Maybe they meant they were going to scrap it.

[fiatdaft]

Maybe they meant they were going to scrap it.

and maybe they were talking pish.

[fiatdaft]

True, but how many cars that have been victims could have been sold for at least more than the two grand, and how many dealers would have given the discount anyway? How many pre reg'd cars could have been got for a lot less than the price of the new scrappaged ones?

to answer your questions fred1 very very few2 zero3 zero

[FredTransit]

OK not more than two grand, but some could have been close, if this is scrappage it has to be close to 2K. There are plenty of other examples.

 

 

Spotted today in the scrappage car compound of the local Nissan Stealership, I didnt go in and ask if it was a scrappage car (though given what was parked up around it I assumed it was) as we have had "words" in the past and I dont think I am welcome back there.....

[fiatdaft]

the offer could have been more than 2k on the particular car they bought,if indeed that is a scrappage car.also a high chance very few ( if any) people would have bought the car if it was for sale at what the owner got off his new car for it.

[FredTransit]

I do understand that, but it would have to be a really really desirable car with zero profit margins before you couldn't get at least £500 off it, sell the VW for £1500 (reasonable) the numbers are the same. Read further up, there are members that have looked into buying even small cars and been offered a discount.

[Mr Lobster]

Fair point Fred but people just don't want the hassle of selling a car privately. We all know it can be a load of hassle selling cheap cars and for the sake of convenience most people owning a £1000 car will go down the scrappage route because it's less hassle. No advertising, no phone calls from morons, no timewasters coming to view. Yeh they might end up slightly worse off financially but probably not that much.On some small cars (not all but certainly some) the only way you will see anything in the way of discount is to take the scrappage option. From what I have seen, the overwhelming majority of cars traded in under scrappage have been utter rubbish that would most probably have been scrapped within the next year or so anyway. Yes there have been a few classics and nice older stuff gone but these are the exception rather than the rule.There isn't the amount of pre registered tiny mileage cars about either, dealers / manufacturers just haven't registered them as much. The amount of six - twelve month old cars available is down as well. The typical source of these is rental fleets which have retained cars much longer and not replaced fleet if they didn't need to.

[504GL]

You can yes. BUT, you'll get nothing like £2k off the majority of stuff that is being bought under the scrappage scheme - small, economical cars. If you are buying a new car for £7k then you *might* get a couple of hundred quid knocked off. You certainly won't haggle anywhere near to £2k off anything that costs less than £10k. For something like a Fiat 500 then you'd be lucky to get anything at all so for someone looking to buy something new, small and cheap the scrappage scheme is probably a bit of a bonus for them. Saves them money and the hassle of having to sell a car privately.

Exactly. I'm a scrappage person and I traded in a bucket of crap R reg 406 turdo diesel which had blown head gasket (2nd time in two years!), temperamental electrics and body damage from before I got it. It was an absolute bucket of bolts and not worth anything tbh. We got a 500 on scrappage even though tbh I wanted a Panda because it was a ****load cheaper and more practical. Before scrappage you could get £400 off a 500 and after I got 2k off so it's a nobrainer.I know I could have got something perfectly good used for a lot less but here in the UK cars seem to be badly maintained compared to back in Australia where I'm from and .Overall though scrappage is a joke, people trading in perfectly good cars for something that's probably not as well built and which pollutes more in the end because it has to be manufactured rather than maintained.RIP - even if it was a bucket of boltshttp://members.iinet.net.au/~fenix1983/ ... rtyCar.jpg