PhilA Posted January 14, 2020 Author Posted January 14, 2020 That's all the springs back on now. Next up is the rigamarole of setting the clearances. That involves laying under the car, turning the flywheel by hand, getting up, looking at the position of the piston, making sure it's actually TDC and then setting the clearances. Repeat x8 Phil paulplom, scdan4 and LightBulbFun 3
PhilA Posted January 14, 2020 Author Posted January 14, 2020 Meh, I think I'll set them approximately and then do them with the engine running. I need a proper set of go no go gauges but I can at least use the 11 and 13 thou' blades side by side. Phil
paulplom Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 I always look forward to the updates on this. Keep on keeping on plz. PhilA, sdkrc and mercedade 3
Tomtation Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 Just had a good old catch up on this thread, and like many have said - wow, such impressive skillz! I wish i had the patience to give such in depth consideration and attention to the details you have done with this car. Also, much want for one of these, such a cool vehicle. mercedade and PhilA 2
PhilA Posted January 16, 2020 Author Posted January 16, 2020 Rusty Fairlane distraction out of the way, I plan on getting back to this and reassembling the engine. However, in the interim I am having naughty thoughts about fuel injection and electronic ignition. Somebody stop me. Phil
STUNO Posted January 16, 2020 Posted January 16, 2020 Electronic ignition ............acceptable Fuel injection...........madness, will you ever use it enough to warrant that. And then there is the cost of whatever good it will do. why not a turbo while you are at it ? Do I sound at all like your wife ? stonedagain, PhilA, loserone and 1 other 1 3
LightBulbFun Posted January 16, 2020 Posted January 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, STUNO said: why not a turbo while you are at it ? surely if you were going for forced induction it would have to be a supercharger for something of this age STUNO 1
STUNO Posted January 16, 2020 Posted January 16, 2020 Fairlane. Here is a project that will cost you less. https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/ford/auction-2478340847.htm?rsqid=1488e2ee74d641e19dca7ca6d40f4470-002 At your first show "where'd ya git that crazy car, look where them put tha steerin wheel, Was it a Friday afternoon Ford fella ? And all the rest on sale in these parts, Some would be completely unknown to people there. https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/CategoryAttributeSearchResults.aspx?search=1&cid=268&sidebar=1&rsqid=fe6775c1097d4ea68de9332c3b4c4d91-001&sidebarSearch_keypresses=0&sidebarSearch_suggested=0&14=Ford&15=Fairlane&21=&1=&minPrice=&maxPrice=&13=0&13=0&24=0&24=0&309=0&309=0&54=&searchRegion=100 PhilA 1
hairnet Posted January 16, 2020 Posted January 16, 2020 has anyone put megasquirt or similar onto anything like yours phil
hairnet Posted January 16, 2020 Posted January 16, 2020 the two links in the last post on page 1 https://www.hotrodders.com/forum/straight-8-a-152093-2.html PhilA 1
PhilA Posted January 17, 2020 Author Posted January 17, 2020 Carburetor and points for now. (FFS points). Wanged the head back on. Set the tappets by eye. Ended up having to scrub the hell out of the points. Bueno. Phil Skizzer, STUNO, paulplom and 3 others 6
PhilA Posted January 17, 2020 Author Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, hairnet said: has anyone put megasquirt or similar onto anything like yours phil No, because the Megasquirt folks haven't figured out siamesed intakes, stating impossibru with port fuel injection Phil
paulplom Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 What's that metal, crescent shaped thing on top of the dash binnacle?
PhilA Posted January 17, 2020 Author Posted January 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, paulplom said: What's that metal, crescent shaped thing on top of the dash binnacle? That's a traffic light lens. From the driver's seat, with the sun visor fitted to the outside of the car it becomes very difficult to see overhead traffic lights (the norm here) without leaning forward a long way. The lens gives a very wide upward view, allowing traffic lights to be seen from a regular seated driving position. As above (library picture) Phil tooSavvy, sdkrc, LightBulbFun and 9 others 7 5
Zelandeth Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 11 hours ago, PhilA said: No, because the Megasquirt folks haven't figured out siamesed intakes, stating impossibru with port fuel injection Phil Surely it would be possible with a throttle body setup? That's literally just throwing a fine mist of fuel into the intake. Skoda used a TBi system on the 135 Rapid, and I'm pretty sure that has siamesed ports. A lot of folks disparage TBi systems but they can work really well. Bonus on an older car is it's pretty easy to disguise most stuff in the engine bay too. Generally won't require any irreversible mods either, possibly exception being maybe needing to drill a hole to secure the crankshaft position sensor. Probably the biggest headache you'd have there is simply the length of the inlet tract...though having said that the displacement is enough that the gas velocity is probably pretty high so fuel condensation in the inlet manifold probably wouldn't be a huge problem. It's definitely not something I would dismiss if you want to use the car regularly rather than just take it to the odd show. I can't imagine that carb letting it breathe particularly well anyway (not that a flathead is ever going to be exactly efficient in that department), so you probably would see an improvement in performance too.
PhilA Posted January 17, 2020 Author Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Zelandeth said: Surely it would be possible with a throttle body setup? That's literally just throwing a fine mist of fuel into the intake. Skoda used a TBi system on the 135 Rapid, and I'm pretty sure that has siamesed ports. A lot of folks disparage TBi systems but they can work really well. Bonus on an older car is it's pretty easy to disguise most stuff in the engine bay too. Generally won't require any irreversible mods either, possibly exception being maybe needing to drill a hole to secure the crankshaft position sensor. Probably the biggest headache you'd have there is simply the length of the inlet tract...though having said that the displacement is enough that the gas velocity is probably pretty high so fuel condensation in the inlet manifold probably wouldn't be a huge problem. It's definitely not something I would dismiss if you want to use the car regularly rather than just take it to the odd show. I can't imagine that carb letting it breathe particularly well anyway (not that a flathead is ever going to be exactly efficient in that department), so you probably would see an improvement in performance too. That's part of the reason I am thinking about it- the intakes are very unequal length and the far end cylinders have a habit of leaning out at higher RPM. Having either an injector per port or a carburetor per port/2 ports would also work. That represents 550cc per cylinder. The volume drawn is not huge in terms of CFM because the top speed of the engine is fairly low (3750 RPM) so a moderately small injector with a finer spray pattern would probably help. I was considering TBI because that would allow me to retain the hotspot but it doesn't address the runner lengths. From the port itself the Y split is visible so having an injector underneath pointing upwards towards it should work well enough (likely better than the carburetor). Phil tooSavvy 1
hairnet Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 22 hours ago, STUNO said: Do I sound at all like your wife ? remember - she started all this adventure.......... everyone needs one of those - phil - got any spare
PhilA Posted January 17, 2020 Author Posted January 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, hairnet said: remember - she started all this adventure.......... everyone needs one of those - phil - got any spare Nope, this ain't Utah
hairnet Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, PhilA said: Nope, this ain't Utah ooer
PhilA Posted January 17, 2020 Author Posted January 17, 2020 Runs much better now. Still needs a tune-up but that's so much better now. Phil DeeJay, GrumpiusMaximus, Tickman and 5 others 8
hairnet Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 i thought you were goin d and d i give you chicken and waffles next time i see you
PhilA Posted January 17, 2020 Author Posted January 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, hairnet said: i thought you were goin d and d i give you chicken and waffles next time i see you Haha no. But it will be going there at some point for a chocolate malt Phil
sdkrc Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 I'm adding nothing to the party here but I have to say this thread is the bee's knees. Immense work Phil and thanks for the entertainment so far. You're living the dream. PhilA and LightBulbFun 2
PhilA Posted January 19, 2020 Author Posted January 19, 2020 Bought some tube and fittings. Hooked up the oil pressure line to the gauge. Needs a couple P clips to hold it in place. Now all my gauges work. Phil Skizzer, Tickman, GrumpiusMaximus and 7 others 10
Zelandeth Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 Interesting to see that (while the actual illumination source is different) that your heater/ventilation controls use the same sort of "floating" illuminated text as Jag did for the HVAC and ancillary controls in the XJS (and early XJ6/12 I think). Yours are lit rather more usefully though! LightBulbFun 1
PhilA Posted January 19, 2020 Author Posted January 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, Zelandeth said: Interesting to see that (while the actual illumination source is different) that your heater/ventilation controls use the same sort of "floating" illuminated text Yes. A single 3 watt bulb that illuminates a sheet of acrylic mostly edge-on, with the words cast in to the sheet, and the backs painted black and the text painted white. The principle is sound and still used today, though nice thick plastic makes it look "jeweled", which is really pleasing to look at both illuminated internally and from an external light source. Phil LightBulbFun 1
scdan4 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 3:23 PM, PhilA said: That's part of the reason I am thinking about it- the intakes are very unequal length and the far end cylinders have a habit of leaning out at higher RPM. Having either an injector per port or a carburetor per port/2 ports would also work. That represents 550cc per cylinder. A straight 8 on ITB’s would be rather wonderful...
PhilA Posted January 19, 2020 Author Posted January 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, scdan4 said: A straight 8 on ITB’s would be rather wonderful... With equal length exhaust headers, correctly tuned- it would sound just like two 4-cylinder engines running beside each other... Phil tooSavvy 1
PhilA Posted January 20, 2020 Author Posted January 20, 2020 I plumbed in the wipers and washer bottle. The seals have shrunk and it all doesn't work very well again. We'll see how long it lasts before I sack it off and install electrical wipers and washer pump... Phil egg 1
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