AS Communal MK4&5 Mondeo Thread

[warren t claim]

Looks a decent motor for less than a bag.

Wrong wheels though. It should have trimz and I can't help but think that a caring owner wouldn't bother fitting used alloys.

[overrun]

I found the same.

Phone only modules were about £20

Streaming ones? £80+

 

You will need a DAB aerial, although if you're in a strong area your FM aerial will do a passable job. Tuned one will be better though.

 

Edit: I was going to suggest going on ETIS and seeing if there's any difference listed between a DAB equipped and FM-only Mondeo - they do list preparations down to the Nth degree like whether the drivers sunvisor is heated or whatever. 

 

However the site appears to just tell you what the car is, and the VIN. Anyone else getting the same?

 

You need login details for full vehicle info on ETIS, now.

[warren t claim]

 

Three fucking large for a base spec 1.6 petrol????

 

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201802163791613?radius=1501&make=FORD&model=MONDEO&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol&maximum-badge-engine-size=1.6&sort=sponsored&year-from=2007&postcode=ch452nn&page=1

[warren t claim]

 

A quarter million mile 1.6 pez with a fucked engine for £695? BARGAIN!

 

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201802213931554?make=FORD&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=MONDEO&radius=1500&maximum-badge-engine-size=1.6&year-from=2007&advertising-location=at_cars&sort=price-asc&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=ch452nn&page=1

[Kiltox]

Now we’re fucking talking!!

[Pillock]

You need login details for full vehicle info on ETIS, now.

Like, free login that anyone can make or dealer logins that cost a million quid a month and you need to send a photo of your glass and steel showroom complex?

[Dave_Q]

Free login, I just did it today, I registered as an Independent Repairer or something.

[overrun]

Like, free login that anyone can make or dealer logins that cost a million quid a month and you need to send a photo of your glass and steel showroom complex?

 

Dunno, never tried. I have borrowed my mates on occasion. Can't remember his password, though.

[overrun]

Free login, I just did it today, I registered as an Independent Repairer or something.

 

Ooh.

[Pillock]

I've just made a communual login

username - autoshite

password - h0rsele55

[Pillock]

Anyway, the point is I can't remember if Ford use the same antenna cable for FM and DAB or not. VW do - you plug one cable into the back of the head unit and it's got both signals mixed in and the head unit sorts it all out. Others use two different plugs.

 

Running that fucked pez Mondeo above shows the features as 

 

• Less Bluetooth
•  Roof Mounted Radio Antenna
•  ICE-Low Level CD + AM/FM Radio
•  Ice Feature Pack 2
• Less Diversity Antenna

I think the Diversity antenna means it would need a DAB one adding.

[warren t claim]

I had a 2009 Ghia estate (BD09HDO) that had DAB but no Bluetooth. Never seen that combination on another MK4.

[overrun]

The DAB aerial is different, yeah.

[Pillock]

The DAB aerial is different, yeah.

 

A different aerial with both signals mux'ed down the same cable, or a different aerial using its own cable and connector on the head unit end? 

 

If it's the former then you can just replace the aerial end (from memory, tucked under the headliner near the back?) and the head unit. If the latter, running new cable will be an arse so use a stick-on one on the windscreen (outside of the heating element area)

[Pillock]

I had a 2009 Ghia estate (BD09HDO) that had DAB but no Bluetooth. Never seen that combination on another MK4.

 

Well that shows what they call the DAB aerial then....

 

• BT/VC Phone Interface Only
•  With Dual Band Antenna
•  High Level CDX6+AM/FM+DAB

 

 

However it also had Bluetooth - for phone only. That was fairly common, I think the Sony head unit on Focuses did DAB and handsfree but not audio streaming BT

[warren t claim]

Yeah but w

 

Well that shows what they call the DAB aerial then....

 

• BT/VC Phone Interface Only
•  With Dual Band Antenna
•  High Level CDX6+AM/FM+DAB

 

 

However it also had Bluetooth - for phone only. That was fairly common, I think the Sony head unit on Focuses did DAB and handsfree but not audio streaming BT

No Bluetooth module fitted and no phone controls on the indicator stalk either?

 

Although it did have wood trim that makes up for it.

[warren t claim]

OK then, let's settle my burning question.

 

YC59UZF.

[Pillock]

Bluetooth for phone calls only. "Roof mounted antenna" with no mention of dual band or diversity, so probably FM only. Best bet sounds like a stick-on antenna.

 

 

 

•  Less Rear Mudflaps
•  Less Cargo Stowage Device
•  Less Interior Pack
•  Less Front Mudflaps
•  Less Hill Launch Assist
•  With Standard Liftgate
•  (-) Version Packages
•  Genk Plant Build
•  Security Lock Group #6
•  Less Special Equipment Package
•  Less Fleet Options
•  Less Marketing Flex Prep Pack
•  Less Dress Up RSO
•  Trend Colour SVP
•  With Electronic Stability Control
•  Less Tyre Repair Service Kit
•  With Global Closing
•  With Electric Rear Windows
•  With Tinted Glass All Round
•  Standard Green Glass Windscreen
•  With Heated Windscreen
•  With Console Ashtray
•  Less Temp Controlled Glove Box
•  With Monotone Instrument Panel
•  Front Floor Carpet Mats
•  Rear Floor Carpet Mats
•  Less Sun Blinds
•  Less Load Rest
•  Less Luggage Compartment Net Kit
•  Less Load Retention Net
•  Less Rear Screen Sun Blinds
•  Less Interior Partition
•  With Self Colour Grille No.1
•  Less Roof Rack
•  Less Spoiler
•  With Dipping Rear View Mirror
•  Dual Power Htd Signal Mirrors
•  Less Special Front Seat Covers
•  Less Special Rear Seat Covers
•  With Rear Seat Centre Armrest
•  Less Passenger Seat Lumbar Support
•  Less Temp Control Driver Seat
•  Less Temp Control Passengers Seat
•  Less Rear Heated Seat
•  Less Child Integrated Seat
•  With Driver 2 Way Pwr.Seat Adjuster
•  With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
•  Less Rear Seat Armrest Packs
•  Less Trailer Coupling
•  Body Coloured Exterior Door Handle
•  With Leather Gear Shift Knob
•  Power Door Dead Lock W/Elec Release
•  Door Entry R/Cont Unit-2 Flip Keys
•  Less Keyless Entry System
•  With Variable Intermittent Windscreen Wiper
•  With Heated Washer Jet
•  Less Headlamp Washer/Wiper
•  Less Sun Roof
•  Air Curtain Restraint LH
•  Air Curtain Restraint RH
•  Inflatable Knee Bolsters - Driver
•  With Side Air Bag - Drivers Side
•  With Side Air Bag - Passenger Side
•  Less Passenger Air Bag Deactivation
•  Spare Wheel - Mini Steel
•  Less Tyre Pressure Sensors
•  With Standard Rear Shock Absorbers
•  6.5 X 16" Alloy Light/Wght Forg Whl
•  Limited Service Mini Spare Tyre
•  Less Wheel Covers
•  Locking Wheel Nuts
•  With Standard Suspension
•  Front Spring Load Class-O
•  Rear Spring Load Class-N
•  With Brake Emergency Assist
•  Less Skid Plates
•  Standard Front Seat
•  Less Rear Comp Duct
•  Less Air Purifier Sensor
•  With 70 Litre Fuel Tank
•  Less Gaseous Prep Pack
•  Standard Foot Pedal Pad Design
•  Leather Steering Wheel
•  With Speed Control
•  With Supplemental Air Heater
•  Low Series Analog Cluster
•  Thatcham Catergory 1 Alarm System
•  Less Rear Parking Aid
•  Less Front Parking Aid
•  80 AH Battery
•  Less Auxiliary Compact Disc Player
•  BT/VC Phone Interface Only
•  Roof Mounted Radio Antenna
•  ICE-Low Level CD + AM/FM Radio
•  ICE Feature Pack 35
•  With 8 Speakers
•  Less Family Entertainment System
•  Voice Activated Module - British
•  Less Camera
•  With Halogen Headlamp
•  Less Daytime Running Lamps
•  With Front Fog Lamps
•  Less Footwell Lights
•  With Header Courtesy Light
•  With 2nd/3rd Row Courtesy Lamp
•  Less Headlamp Control

[warren t claim]

 

Bluetooth for phone calls only. "Roof mounted antenna" with no mention of dual band or diversity, so probably FM only. Best bet sounds like a stick-on antenna.

 

 

 

•  Less Rear Mudflaps
•  Less Cargo Stowage Device
•  Less Interior Pack
•  Less Front Mudflaps
•  Less Hill Launch Assist
•  With Standard Liftgate
•  (-) Version Packages
•  Genk Plant Build
•  Security Lock Group #6
•  Less Special Equipment Package
•  Less Fleet Options
•  Less Marketing Flex Prep Pack
•  Less Dress Up RSO
•  Trend Colour SVP
•  With Electronic Stability Control
•  Less Tyre Repair Service Kit
•  With Global Closing
•  With Electric Rear Windows
•  With Tinted Glass All Round
•  Standard Green Glass Windscreen
•  With Heated Windscreen
•  With Console Ashtray
•  Less Temp Controlled Glove Box
•  With Monotone Instrument Panel
•  Front Floor Carpet Mats
•  Rear Floor Carpet Mats
•  Less Sun Blinds
•  Less Load Rest
•  Less Luggage Compartment Net Kit
•  Less Load Retention Net
•  Less Rear Screen Sun Blinds
•  Less Interior Partition
•  With Self Colour Grille No.1
•  Less Roof Rack
•  Less Spoiler
•  With Dipping Rear View Mirror
•  Dual Power Htd Signal Mirrors
•  Less Special Front Seat Covers
•  Less Special Rear Seat Covers
•  With Rear Seat Centre Armrest
•  Less Passenger Seat Lumbar Support
•  Less Temp Control Driver Seat
•  Less Temp Control Passengers Seat
•  Less Rear Heated Seat
•  Less Child Integrated Seat
•  With Driver 2 Way Pwr.Seat Adjuster
•  With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
•  Less Rear Seat Armrest Packs
•  Less Trailer Coupling
•  Body Coloured Exterior Door Handle
•  With Leather Gear Shift Knob
•  Power Door Dead Lock W/Elec Release
•  Door Entry R/Cont Unit-2 Flip Keys
•  Less Keyless Entry System
•  With Variable Intermittent Windscreen Wiper
•  With Heated Washer Jet
•  Less Headlamp Washer/Wiper
•  Less Sun Roof
•  Air Curtain Restraint LH
•  Air Curtain Restraint RH
•  Inflatable Knee Bolsters - Driver
•  With Side Air Bag - Drivers Side
•  With Side Air Bag - Passenger Side
•  Less Passenger Air Bag Deactivation
•  Spare Wheel - Mini Steel
•  Less Tyre Pressure Sensors
•  With Standard Rear Shock Absorbers
•  6.5 X 16" Alloy Light/Wght Forg Whl
•  Limited Service Mini Spare Tyre
•  Less Wheel Covers
•  Locking Wheel Nuts
•  With Standard Suspension
•  Front Spring Load Class-O
•  Rear Spring Load Class-N
•  With Brake Emergency Assist
•  Less Skid Plates
•  Standard Front Seat
•  Less Rear Comp Duct
•  Less Air Purifier Sensor
•  With 70 Litre Fuel Tank
•  Less Gaseous Prep Pack
•  Standard Foot Pedal Pad Design
•  Leather Steering Wheel
•  With Speed Control
•  With Supplemental Air Heater
•  Low Series Analog Cluster
•  Thatcham Catergory 1 Alarm System
•  Less Rear Parking Aid
•  Less Front Parking Aid
•  80 AH Battery
•  Less Auxiliary Compact Disc Player
•  BT/VC Phone Interface Only
•  Roof Mounted Radio Antenna
•  ICE-Low Level CD + AM/FM Radio
•  ICE Feature Pack 35
•  With 8 Speakers
•  Less Family Entertainment System
•  Voice Activated Module - British
•  Less Camera
•  With Halogen Headlamp
•  Less Daytime Running Lamps
•  With Front Fog Lamps
•  Less Footwell Lights
•  With Header Courtesy Light
•  With 2nd/3rd Row Courtesy Lamp
•  Less Headlamp Control

 

Mine looks stripped out according to that and it's not even The Edge spec, more Adam Clayton Zetec spec.

[Pillock]

Head over to Etis and use that login. Proper rabbit hole of looking up past cars, cars off the telly, ones that drive past your house etc.

I checked out one of the Black Boothandle Gang and the level of detail recorded was immense. Probably told you what length speedo needle it had been specced with, a good three times as much as usual. Perhaps custom built spec?

[Dave_Q]

The BBG have an option for "Less Dress Up RSO", a quick search says that RSO = retail special order, so I'm reading that as a super mingebag special order for a dealer, or more likely a fleet? Maybe specced for a taxi specialist?

 

The spec list certainly has more Less than With.

 

 

Mondeo 2007-2014, 2.0L Duratorq CR TC (140PS) - DW10C, Colorado Red

VIN Number: WF0EXXGBBECL56349
Registration Number: AK62ACV
First Registration Date: 09.10.2012
Registration Country: GB
Type Approval Number (TAN): E13*2001/116*0249
Primary Features
Build Date: 14.09.2012
Minor Features
With Standard "B" Pillar Trim
Less Rear Mudflaps
Less Front Door Sill Protection
Less Cargo Stowage Device
Less Flexible Stowage
Less Interior Pack
Less Front Mudflaps
Less Hill Launch Assist
With Conventional Tailgate
With Standard Liftgate
(-) Version Packages
Genk Plant Build
Less Security Lock Group
Less Special Equipment Package
Less Fleet Options
Ford Corporate Badge
Less Marketing Flex Prep Pack
Less Sales Badge
Less Special Order Paint
With SVO Application/Label
Marketing Level 1
Less Dress Up RSO
(-) SVP
Less Safety Packs
Less SIP
Less Memory Package
Exterior Paint - Solid
With Electronic Stability Control
Less Safety Pack
Less VP Application Label
Less Brand Ownership
Less Fire Extinguisher Fixings
Less Signal Flare Warning Bracket
Less Tyre Repair Service Kit
"D" Pillar Moulded Trim
"A" Pillar Cloth Trim
"C" Pillar Molded Trim
With Global Closing
Power Front Windows One Touch Up/Do
With Electric Rear Windows
With Tinted Glass All Round
Standard Green Glass Windscreen
With Fixed Rear Window
With Heated Windscreen
With Heated Rear Window
Less Run Flat System
With Base Centre Panel
Less Console Ashtray
Less Temp Controlled Glove Box
With Monotone Instrument Panel
With Padded Dash
With Standard Overhead Console
Full Floor Console With Armrest
Cup Holders (2) - Row 1
With Footrest
Front Floor Carpet Mats
Less Rear Floor Mats
Less Sun Blinds
With Front Door Pull
Sunvisor Less Mirror - Drivers
Non Illuminated Sunvisor-Passenger
With Bright Interior Door Handles
Less Door Trim Panel Insert
With Level 1 Door Trim Panel
With Rear Seat Ashtray
Fixed Front Roof Assist Handle
With Fixed Rear Roof Assist Handle
Less Load Rest
Less Luggage Compartment Net Kit
Less Load Area Cover
Less Load Compartment Loops
Less Load Retention Net
With Load Floor Carpet
Less First Aid Retain Straps
Less W.Triangle Retaining Straps
Less Sun Blinds - 3rd Row
Less Rear Screen Sun Blinds
Less Interior Partition
Less Exterior Chrome Pack
Chrome-Plated
Grille-Lower Mesh Lt Self Clr
Less Roof Rack
Less Exterior Body Mouldings
Less Exterior Rocker Panel Moulding
With Black Door Frame Moulding
Less Auxiliary Roof Rack Crossbars
Less Spoiler
Less Interior Aux R/View Mirror
With Dipping Rear View Mirror
Dual Power Htd Signal Mirrors
With Body Coloured Exterior Mirror
Less Driver Seat Back Map Pocket
Less Passenger Seat Back Map Pocket
Less Drivers Seat Fold Down Table
Less Under Seat Stowage Facility
Less Ski Bag Provision
With Front 2 Way Headrest
Less Passenger Seat
Less LH Lumbar Support
Less RH Lumbar Support
Less Special Seat Covers
Less Special Front Seat Covers
Less Special Rear Seat Covers
Less Rear Seat Cushion
With Split Fold-Down Rear Seat
With 2 Way Adjustable Rear Headrest
With Rear Seat Centre Armrest
With Rear Center Head Restraint
With Drivers Manual Lumbar Support
With Passengers Man Lumbar Support
Less Temp Control Driver Seat
Less Temp Control Passengers Seat
Less Rear Heated Seat
Less Seat Belt Warning Light/Chime
2nd Row Seat 60/40 (3 P) - Folding
Less Child Integrated Seat
With Driver 2 Way Pwr.Seat Adjuster
With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
Less Rear Seat Armrest Packs
Less Trailer Coupling
Heater Controls Alt A
Exterior Door Handle - Black
Body Coloured Tailgate Handle
With Moulded Gearshift Knob
Soft Feel Gear Shift Boot
Child Proof RR Door Lock + Elec Rel
With Remote Controlled Tailgate Release
Power Door Dead Lock W/Elec Release
Door Entry R/Cont Unit-2 Flip Keys
Less Keyless Entry System
With Int. Rear Window Wiper/Washer
With Variable Intermittent Windscreen Wiper
With Heated Washer Jet
Less Headlamp Washer/Wiper
Less Sun Roof
Less Front Bumper Sensor Device
Front Bumper Body Coloured Plastic
Less Front Bumper Impact Pads
Less Front Bumper Extension
Rear Bumper Body Coloured Plastic
Less Rear Bumper Impact Pads
Less Rear Bumper Skirt
Air Curtain Restraint LH
Air Curtain Restraint RH
Inflatable Knee Bolsters - Driver
With Beltminder
With 3 Point Seat Belts
With Inertia Front Seat Belt
Retractable Rear Seat Belt-3Point
Less Rear Seat Belt Mountings
With Smart Drivers Airbag Restraint
With Smart Passngr Airbag Restraint
With Side Air Bag - Drivers Side
With Side Air Bag - Passenger Side
Less Passenger Air Bag Deactivation
With Isofix Hard Point Attachment
With Manual Adjust Frt.S.Belt Mount
Spare Wheel - Mini Steel
Less Tyre Pressure Sensors
With Standard Rear Shock Absorbers
6.5 X 16" Steel Road Wheel
Limited Service Mini Spare Tyre
With Standard Tyre Tread - Front
With Standard Tyre Tread - Rear
16" Mid Series Wheel Cover II
Non Locking Lug Nuts
With Kysor Radiator Shutter
Less Frame Mounted Fuel Filter
Less Preprogrammed Speed Limit
Cold Start -15 Deg C
Standard Electric Starter Motor
With Standard Suspension
Less Attitude/Ride Height Pack
Front Spring Load Class-P
Rear Spring Load Class-F
Single Exhaust
Less Exhaust Pipe Extension
With Soft Feel Handbrake Grip
With Mechanical Parking Brake
With 4 Wheel Disc-Brake
Less Collision Mitigation System
With Brake Emergency Assist
4 Wheel Anti-Lock Braking System
Less ABS-Hill Descent Control
Less Electronc Stability Brake Cntl
3.58/1.86/1.19/0.87/0.94/0.79
Less Skid Plates
Standard Front Seat
Less Rear Comp Duct
Less Air Purifier Sensor
With Pollen Filter
Less Heater
Less Air Conditioning
With 70 Litre Fuel Tank
Less Fuel Water Separator
Fuel Tank Flap - Locking
With Diesel Fuel Capability
Less Gaseous Prep Pack
With Low Sulfur Diesel Fuel Content
With Fixed Foot Pedals
Standard Foot Pedal Pad Design
With Power Steering(Fixed Ratio)
With Manual Tilt/Slide Stg Column
Leather Steering Wheel
Less Heated Steering Wheel
Less Electronic Speed Limitation
With Speed Control
Less Steering Wheel Gear Selector
With Supplemental Air Heater
Less Auxiliary Hot Water Heater
Low Series Analog Cluster
Less Instrument Cluster - Rheostat
With MPH/KMH Speedometer
With Trip Computer
7000 RPM Tachometer
Less Navigation Disk
Less Navigation Data
Less Lane Departure Warning System
Less Speed Audible Warning Device
Less Blind Spot Information System
Thatcham Catergory 1 Alarm System
With Safeguard Anti-Theft Sys(Pats)
Less Vehicle Tilt Sensing
Less Rear Parking Aid
Less Front Parking Aid
80 AH Battery
With Radio Pre-Equipment Pack 1
Less Auxiliary Compact Disc Player
With A/V Jack
BT/VC Phone Interface Only
Diversity Antenna
ICE-Low Level CD + AM/FM Radio
ICE Feature Pack 35
Less Diversity Antenna
Less Upgraded Sound System
With 8 Speakers
Less Telephone Preparation Pack
Less Television Package
Less Family Entertainment System
Less Sync
Voice Activated Module - British
Less Voice Input System
With Steering Wheel Radio Controls
Less Column Stalk Radio Controls
Less Electrical Outlet
Less Power Point Plug
Less Camera
With Auto Headlamps
With Halogen Headlamp
Less Daytime Running Lamps
Less Front Fog Lamps
With Frt Door Edge Warn Reflectors
Less Cornering Lamp
Less Footwell Lights
With Header Courtesy Light
With Courtesy Light Delay
With Rear Overhead Courtesy Lamp
With Glove Box Illumination
Less Load Compartment Lamp
With High Mounted Stop Lamp
Less Parking Brake Warning Lamp
With Front Headlamp Levelling
Less Headlamp Control

 

[Pillock]

"With SVO Application/Label"

 

SVO = Special Vehicle Operations, they get involved with fleet orders etc. Seems to be used in the USA for "Performance" stuff, like AMG is to Mercs but I'm sure I remember reading an article years ago saying how if someone like British Gas want a load of vans, they go to SVO and get to write the spec sheet exactly how they want it. Perhaps the reason for that ETIS dump being like War and Peace, with the tacho redline and fuel tank size specified.

[HH-R]

Does TITS work with any car or just Fords?

[Pillock]

Tits always work, but ETIS only works on Fords.

 

There are other systems for other makes, look for the info thread. Off the top of my head you can get build info for BMW, Citroen, Peugeot, Vauxhall, Fiat.

[HH-R]

I'd love to find out when my 06 plate Rover 25 was made but the VIN I have written down doesn't seem to work anywhere.

 

The car is bean tins now so was hoping something would work by reg.

[overrun]

To read TSB’s etc you still need a subscribtion to ETIS, unfortunately.

The free account is good for checking what spec a car was built with, though.

[sierraman]

Was fancying a Focus Mk2 next but these are appealing a bit more. Am I right in that the diesel is a lot more reliable than the Mk3 unit? I'm still pale and sweaty thinking about the flashing glow plug light on the mk3.

[warren t claim]

Was fancying a Focus Mk2 next but these are appealing a bit more. Am I right in that the diesel is a lot more reliable than the Mk3 unit? I'm still pale and sweaty thinking about the flashing glow plug light on the mk3.

Depends on which diesel.

[sierraman]

Possibly 1.8td or the 2.0 hdi based lump. Not the 1.6 diesel

[Pillock]

I thought the 1.6 and 2.0 were closely related (the PSA grenade-o-matic) and the 1.8 was a totally different Ford design?