40 years Rolling MOT exemption is Go!

[strangeangel]

Effectively, will every car be priced as a permanent MOT Pass, or will every car be priced as a potential MOT Fail?

 

 

Take a wild guess.

 

If I go to look at a pre-1978 car after this, and it isn't accompanied by an MOT certificate I will assume that it is fucked. And, no, the MOT test isn't infallible, but it's better than nothing. A lot better.

[strangeangel]

The other reason that I'm super excited about this is that it gives me hope that My A1 motorcycle licence can be upgraded to an unrestricted one by doing a training day as set out in this proposal: 

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/dvsa-sets-out-proposals-to-improve-motorcycle-training

 

Or better yet, how about doing away with the pointless A1 and let people get a full licence by passing on a 125, but maybe limiting them to, ooh, 33BHP for a certain period of time, say two years? This would stop them rushing out to buy a Ninjablade and becoming soup the first time they encounter a bend, yet allow them a reasonable amount of power to get some riding skillz with.

 

No, it'll never catch on.

[stephen01]

 

 

Effectively, will every car be priced as a permanent MOT Pass, or will every car be priced as a potential MOT Fail?

 

If I'm selling priced as permanent pass, if I'm buying priced as a potential fail  

 

The Money I plan on spending on cars anyway as long as they see the current MOT out I'll be happy. £350 for a 318 BMW estate with 11 months MOT, erm yes I'll take it, if it doesn't see another MOT I'm still quids in - apart from petrol, that shit hurts especially after getting 40mpg out of a clio. 

[Lacquer Peel]

Cars up to three years old should not be MOT exempt, a lot can happen in 1-3 years

[Dick Cheeseburger]

I still can't work out what'll happen with removing transferable plates from MOT exempt rotters. I wonder if the rules will stay as they are now - whack an MOT on it if it's been off the road for yonks, or transfer with no* issue if you've owned it a while and it has a recently lapsed ticket. Hmm.

[Junkman]

Make plate rape a capital offense.

[Sigmund Fraud]

I'm glad the Tories are looking out for the masses, relatively affluent people who keep >40 year old cars for a hobby really need a break.

 

[wuvvum]

I'm glad the Tories are looking out for the masses, relatively affluent people who keep >40 year old cars for a hobby really need a break.

I keep >40 year old cars for a hobby.  I am not relatively affluent.

[DodgeRover]

I should think you aren't affluent having more than 40 one year old cars, what you need is a single pre '77 Rolls to save you some money

[Sigmund Fraud]

I suspect Mr.Peel is thinking of the £100K 911/E-Type brigade, not us lot who are the bottom feeders of the classic car world.

[Junkman]

Mr Peel is thinking of ME!

 

For once!

 

This is the first time of all ever that a bloody politician did something for ME.

[Sigmund Fraud]

Mr Peel is thinking of ME!

 

For once!

 

This is the first time of all ever that a bloody politician did something for ME.

 

Don't worry, they'll probably double fuel duty tomorrow to restore the balance !

[Junkman]

They do that anyway.

 

But for once, a politician did something for ME!

[AlabamaShrimp]

Well I think this is a good thing and shame it isn't 30 years or was it 25 last time for the tax I can't remember.

 

Only got a other 7 years to wait till one of mine is free* but saying that there's a lot of happiness and moaning how many on here actually have a car over 40 that this will effect?

[LostnotFound]

Isn't this just a pretty minor change that will have little impact on most people?

 

In all honest how many 40 year old cars are actually on the road (I'm not sure there's a quick way to do it on how many left). Financally a 300 quid focus that'll just run for a couple of years will still likely be cheaper motoring even with tax and mot. Given 80's cars are going up in value as retro things that are actually old are just likely to keep rising just as quickly.

 

Anyone with a 40 year old car is owning one as a hobby and as such probably not impacting road safety to any great extent I'd have thought. So this is good news for getting a few older cars back on the road.

[Guest Hooli]

Well I think this is a good thing and shame it isn't 30 years or was it 25 last time for the tax I can't remember.

 

Only got a other 7 years to wait till one of mine is free* but saying that there's a lot of happiness and moaning how many on here actually have a car over 40 that this will effect?

 

It was 25 years last time. I was most pissed off when the Midget I had at the time got to about 24 before liebore got in & fucked me over with it.

[Guest Hooli]

I'm glad the Tories are looking out for the masses, relatively affluent people who keep >40 year old cars for a hobby really need a break.

 

 

Are you a natural twat, or have you practised to get like that?

[doobietoo]

 

Only got a other 7 years to wait till one of mine is free* but saying that there's a lot of happiness and moaning how many on here actually have a car over 40 that this will effect?

 

I have two.... on a side note that 15% power to weight increase means the A35 is limited to an extra 4 bhp   

[Guest Hooli]

Thinking about that 15% power thing, I'd best 'forget' the E3134 cams in my T140 when I fix it up.

[Squire_Dawson]

I remember reading in an old Car Mechanics magazine the author discussing the MoT test. He said that with cars having a separate chassis, that was the only thing that mattered as the rest of the body could be literally hanging off, and he cited the old 'battleship' Humbers as a case in point. Not sure about the relevance to this but it's all grist to the mill.

[DodgeRover]

I can see the 15% power increase being a stumbling block, how many minis or minors now boast an engine larger than they left the factory with or cortinas capris are now 2.0 and now not MOT/ Tax exempt

Luckily my Janspeed turbo was fitted in 1987

[SiC]

Thing is, how do you know a car has been modified before 1988 or prove it. My MGB has no history last the previous owner a couple of months back, so I have no idea what's in that engine! Could be performance cams as far as I know. Plus I have no base to which to base it against and, like most classic car owners, I've hardly driven it anyway.

 

In 43 years, the car has had many years it could possibly have been fiddled with!

[Lacquer Peel]

Are you a natural twat, or have you practised to get like that?

Why is it twattish to point out the hilarious disparity in the laws enacted to make life easier for the well off and the ones used to punish the poor?

[SiC]

I hardly think road tax is set up to punish the poor.

[Lacquer Peel]

Not motoring laws necessarily but in general.

[tooSavvy]

Why is it twattish to point out the hilarious disparity in the laws enacted to make life easier for the well off and the ones used to punish the poor?

60% increase in homelessness put down to '6 years of cuts' (may be a N missing, unsure)

 

Daughter has been 'capped' and had the 'repossession/unpaid rent' worry... Got her PIP back so 'even keel' restored

 

TS

[Guest Hooli]

Why is it twattish to point out the hilarious disparity in the laws enacted to make life easier for the well off and the ones used to punish the poor?

 

You know, I'd reply to this but I just can't be arsed to waste the effort.

[Uncle Jimmy]

Most costs, including VED disproportionately effect those on low incomes, I don't see how that can be argued against.

Btw, I'm one of the 'relatively affluent'.

[sheffcortinacentre]

The 15% is a possibility, more likely it'll be dropped/altered so we'll all tug our forlock & thank the gov't for being so generous or it'll be based on the 8 point rule still.

 

Far as i know imports will still have to pass an initial mot to give proof to be registered.

 

Must say 2 of mine have been off the road for 3 years so will I need to mot 1st, one of mine has been off the rd since the i0s can it must go back on the rd when I finish its resto?

[twosmoke300]

That 15% increase thing is totally un policeable imo