Ford Oil

[sierraman]

Surprised how cheap genuine Ford branded Formula F oil is, looked up how much 5 litres of 5w30 was and it's only something like £19 inc VAT. It's no cheaper at ECP.

 

Even the Coolant was fairly inexpensive. Worth bearing in mind for the next time there's a 'Is xxx oil any good?'

[Mally]

We used it in the Tranny for 10 years because it was cheap.

Using Triple QX at the moment because we get it at £18.

[twosmoke300]

Toyota are cheap for oil too

[sierraman]

It's not even like it's shit oil, it's the brew designed for the motor!

[PiperCub]

^^ My thoughts too. They are not going to put their name to and sell sub-standard crap that destroys your engine, that would be commercial suicide. Besides, it's probably exactly what they use in their workshops when servicing the cars!

 

The spec etc matters more than the name. It's possible to bollocks up an engine (or trans or diff) by feeding it with the wrong type & spec of oil even if it has the most prestigious name on the can. 

[egg]

Yep, fordpartsuk.com do 10 litres for £43 delivered or 20 litres for £77.

[Hendry]

It appears to be only Vauxhall oil thats very expensive, even VW longlife quantum oil is cheap enough. The Genuine GM Dexos 2 is about 60quid a 5L at retail price, although i doubt if anyone ever pays that as the only ones who use it are Vauxhall main dealers, and some garages who buy 200litre drums at trade price. 

 

Was surprised when my dads Mondeo went for a service last week and the garage who does our work (VW/Audi independent) ordered in a genuine Ford service kit which included the Ford Formula F oil, because even the oil spec leaflet in the handbook specifies Castrol oil for all Ford cars. Ford have obviously tied up their own oil and sacked off Castrol now, bet theyre not happy bunnies, serves them right, their oil is ridiculously expensive even at Tesco/Asda! My aforementioned garage uses VW spec approved oil made by Rock Oil, and its very decent value for money. 

[NorthernMonkey]

Tradewise, Vauxhall tends to be among the cheapest, ironically....20 litres of 5w30 C3 is around £35 delivered usually as opposed to nearer £40 at ECP or the other factors.

[fred]

Well - all oil is basically reconstituted mammoth / Palm tree / Megadons etc....

[timolloyd]

Wilko's own brand comes in a flavour that's exactly the right spec for Volvo D5s

[egg]

Yep, fordpartsuk.com do 10 litres for £43 delivered or 20 litres for £77.

At the moment JUNE10 will give you a further 10% off these prices.

[JayW]

Triple R oil in many flavours, that's what almost all my fleet get. 12 quid for mineral, up to 19 quid for top notch FS.

 

Only the Saab gets anything different as apparently it MUST have proper GM spec. Personally, I prefer to avoid Genetically Modified stuff

[Hendry]

At the moment JUNE10 will give you a further 10% off these prices.

 

In their special offers bit theres a 2x 5L of the 5w30 Formula F oil for £31 as well!

 

Or 4x 5L for £59.83

[egg]

Indeed, but VAT + delivery too!

[Hendry]

Indeed, but VAT + delivery too!

 

Ah, i thought that was inc vat, thought their prices looked really good, dont seem so good with vat still to go on now.

[sierraman]

If you were in any doubt about OE spec parts and stuff from ECP, look at these, one is the OE Ford Stat, the rubber seal is much thicker, the Circoli one doesn't even have the bleed valve at the top... the Ford one is £14.95 from the dealer and the Circoli one is £5 or thereabouts. For the sake of a tenner I'll fit the Ford one I think...

[Hendry]

I never ever fit non genuine parts to my car, except maybe good branded brake discs and pads. Genuine stuff is sometimes cheaper or similar price to motor factor stuff, and when its not its not much more expensive and justifiably so. In my opinion motor factors are really going to have to up their game, as are aftermarket parts manufacturers, because dealers and manufacturers have realised the revenue stream from parts now and tapped into it, and its only really the "anti-dealer" brigade or people who think the dealer is going to be mega expensive because it has the manufacturer name on the box that use factors now, because independent garages all use genuine parts, mainly because they are cheap enough, especially at trade prices, they dont have fitment issues or cars on ramps unfinished due to wrong or poorly fitting parts, they fit first time, they last longer so less hassle from them with punters coming back, and they can entice people in with "genuine parts" for the same price as a service or repair was with non gen parts before, buy cheap buy twice. Ive never seen as many dealers parts vans on the roads as there is now, a lot have diversified into parts warehouses and wholesale, effectively dealer run genuine parts selling motor factors, like Arnold Clarks Autoparts Ecosse, or Autopartsuk.com, I see them going into loads of independent garages, the have brand directories for genuine parts on their walls, they have boxes of genuine parts lying around, some have Arnold Clark genuine parts branded boxes of genuine service kits piled high, and loads of them will say they use genuine, will mark that on receipts and service books, and will even on the itemised receipt provide genuine parts numbers. Plus loads of manufacturers now offer even cheaper, genuine branded, OEM quality "4+ parts" for older cars which represent even more value, VW and Ford are just 2 I can think of. 

[twosmoke300]

A little blinkered maybe ?

 

Do you think the manufacturers actually make half the components ? Do they buggery .

 

Many parts are made my febi, denso , bosch , Delphi , Valeo etc etc .

 

Parts made by the oem supplier are often less than half price at motor factors for exactly the same part . In fact a valeo rear wiper motor I fitted to a fiesta last month ( less than half dealer trade price ) had a small area ground away exactly where the ford logo was on the original part .

 

Some pattern parts are junk esp eBay shit but many are oem parts in cheaper boxes

[Hendry]

A little blinkered maybe ?

 

Do you think the manufacturers actually make half the components ? Do they buggery .

 

Many parts are made my febi, denso , bosch , Delphi , Valeo etc etc .

 

Parts made by the oem supplier are often less than half price at motor factors for exactly the same part . In fact a valeo rear wiper motor I fitted to a fiesta last month ( less than half dealer trade price ) had a small area ground away exactly where the ford logo was on the original part .

 

Some pattern parts are junk esp eBay shit but many are oem parts in cheaper boxes

Granted, but to me these are genuine parts, because identical to OEM minus the manufacturer logo, so my point still stands.

 

In any case I was more talking service and maintenance parts, consumables, not electricals and/or stuff that's seldom fails or needs replacing like a wiper motor. Was meaning oils, filters, springs, discs, pads, drop links, ball joints, bushes, track rod ends, etc. The main stuff motor factors sell, and a lot of it is toss, I'm not claiming for a second that manufacturers make their own parts, I realise most are outsourced and boxed in manufacturer logo boxes, Bur again my point still stands, generally OEM genuine stuff lasts, not all parts by all big reputable manufacturers is good quality, Febi droplinks may be good quality but their rear lower arms may be crap, so a car might leave the factory with parts produced by many different companies based on that companies quality of a particular component.

[andy18s]

I never ever fit non genuine parts to my car, except maybe good branded brake discs and pads. Genuine stuff is sometimes cheaper or similar price to motor factor stuff, and when its not its not much more expensive and justifiably so. In my opinion motor factors are really going to have to up their game, as are aftermarket parts manufacturers, because dealers and manufacturers have realised the revenue stream from parts now and tapped into it, and its only really the "anti-dealer" brigade or people who think the dealer is going to be mega expensive because it has the manufacturer name on the box that use factors now, because independent garages all use genuine parts, mainly because they are cheap enough, especially at trade prices, they dont have fitment issues or cars on ramps unfinished due to wrong or poorly fitting parts, they fit first time, they last longer so less hassle from them with punters coming back, and they can entice people in with "genuine parts" for the same price as a service or repair was with non gen parts before, buy cheap buy twice. Ive never seen as many dealers parts vans on the roads as there is now, a lot have diversified into parts warehouses and wholesale, effectively dealer run genuine parts selling motor factors, like Arnold Clarks Autoparts Ecosse, or Autopartsuk.com, I see them going into loads of independent garages, the have brand directories for genuine parts on their walls, they have boxes of genuine parts lying around, some have Arnold Clark genuine parts branded boxes of genuine service kits piled high, and loads of them will say they use genuine, will mark that on receipts and service books, and will even on the itemised receipt provide genuine parts numbers. Plus loads of manufacturers now offer even cheaper, genuine branded, OEM quality "4+ parts" for older cars which represent even more value, VW and Ford are just 2 I can think of.

Tl,Dr.

Paragraphs mate,you need paragraphs....

[twosmoke300]

On back order from the dealer - local factors got the same paragraphs for half the money but fuck that rubbish !

[PhilA]

That's all good and well, if you can find me an American Motors dealership to buy some nice OEM parts, let me know.

 

Phil

[tapir]

It appears to be only Vauxhall oil thats very expensive, even VW longlife quantum oil is cheap enough. The Genuine GM Dexos 2 is about 60quid a 5L at retail price, although i doubt if anyone ever pays that as the only ones who use it are Vauxhall main dealers, and some garages who buy 200litre drums at trade price. 

 

Was surprised when my dads Mondeo went for a service last week and the garage who does our work (VW/Audi independent) ordered in a genuine Ford service kit which included the Ford Formula F oil, because even the oil spec leaflet in the handbook specifies Castrol oil for all Ford cars. Ford have obviously tied up their own oil and sacked off Castrol now, bet theyre not happy bunnies, serves them right, their oil is ridiculously expensive even at Tesco/Asda! My aforementioned garage uses VW spec approved oil made by Rock Oil, and its very decent value for money. 

 

Get a free vx trade card and they will do 5 litres of dextos2 5w30 for sub £20,