For Sale Force gale mk3 mondy 2.0 pez slush-o-matic SOLDUMUNDO

[vaughant]

Not mine but a work colleagues friends car, looks ok in the pics, shade under 100k and price is definitely ono as the gent selling is on long term sick sadly.

 

Will endeavour to post pics asap but I'm at work till ten so most likely after that.

 

Nice cheap auto with a years ticket for under half a bag, seems ok to me.

 

Contact details available to interested parties.

[vaughant]

[Jazoli]

Location would help

[gadgetgricey]

Location would help

 

I think it's Hungerford. Taken from a previous thread.

[stephen01]

Swindon if he had it mot'd locally

[vaughant]

Swindon is correct, apologies chaps and good detective work!!!!

 

Genuinely as much as I know about it is above,a figure of £450 has already been banded about so there's definitely room for negotiations.

[vaughant]

Also looks like a march MOT so 10 months not twelve, still a good test.

[smellypoo]

Good, comfortable, solidly built cars these, lx is a decent spec too. Someone has added facelift rear lights at some point.

 

Often these mk3 Mondeos are maligned for being scrap with faults that are more expensive than the car is worth, I'm not sure about the 2.0 pez or autobox (dad's old one was a diesel manual which is still going with a shiter), guessing should be fine if looked after and it seems to look good body-wise in the pics.

[sierraman]

Gearbox is Jatco iirc

[Liggle]

The 2.0 Pez is a Mazda L-series engine, same as the Mazda 6. Mine was unburstable, it was manual though so can't comment on the autobox. 

 

Parts for these are silly cheap. The only expensive job I came across was the rear subframe bushes, due to the labour involved. Someone has put facelift wheels and lights on that but it looks really tidy, they drive really well these cars - completely changed my opinion of them. 

Averaged 37mpg in mine over a mixture of driving, steady long runs 40-45mpg was achievable. 

[Bren]

Nice but as you would expect with auto a bit gutless and thrashy - drove one regularly.

Still for under £500 it looks a good buy....

[sierraman]

It isn't it's a 2.0 Ford duratec, co designed with Mazda but it isn't a Mazda engine as such.

[Liggle]

It isn't it's a 2.0 Ford duratec, co designed with Mazda but it isn't a Mazda engine as such.

 

Ford built it under license as a 'Duratec', its a Mazda derived engine in 1.8, 2.0, 2.3 and 2.5 form. Ford built many different engines under the 'Duratec' name which are completely unrelated. This engine also went in the Volvo S40/V50 of same era. 

 

Its certainly a bargain at that price, I paid more than that for mine and the clutch went 5 days later! 

[cpjitservices]

I have one of these in estate format, manual with the 2.0 TDCi. Not impressed with getting 37.2 MPG (according to its computer) on a 220 mile journey at 60Mph.

[sierraman]

There something wrong there, mine used to do an easy 55-60mpg at that speed. The 2.0 diesel is a nice car but it can be a real pain in terms of repairing it when the inevitable flashing glow plug light comes on. Occasionally it will be something like the EGR or whatever, more often than not though at the age they are it's the beginnings of injectors failing and/or wear in the pump.

 

Were I to look for another one I'd be looking for a 2.0 petrol or alternatively a 1.8 so long as it didn't smoke. On the 1.8 they are very prone to the oil control rings gumming up, sometimes they'll even do this when they've been serviced regular, on the other hand I've seen some 1.8 that have done 200k without a problem.

[stephen01]

​My old boss had a diesel estate that was returning less than 30mpg on a decent run, he returned it to the dealer and they took it back pretty much no questions asked, albeit on another motor but no loss of value and about a month later.

[23rdian]

These had a big knob didn't they 

[cpjitservices]

Hmmmmm not sure whats going on with mine, like I say barely touching 40MPG on a steady 50-60-70 even with cruise control on...

 

EML is on due to knackered EGR valve but I've blanked it and unplugged it...

[sierraman]

What year is it? You should only be able to completely remove it on the pre 2003 ones. Does it smoke or run rough? Is it the EML or the Coil light flashing?

[cpjitservices]

What year is it? You should only be able to completely remove it on the pre 2003 ones. Does it smoke or run rough?

2003, no it doesnt smoke, only times it runs rough is on first start up on a morning, mainly fluctuating idle. If I plug the EGR valve in it runs like a bag of shit and really flat.  Hence unplugged and blanked.

 

If anything it runs well.

[sierraman]

The rough running isn't a good sign in a morning, it's something you'll probably not get to the bottom of until it gets worse. If it's the pre facelift you can blank the EGR, after that the engine was updated to Euro whatever, you couldn't run it with the EGR unplugged, you could block it with a plate with a 3/8 hole in it that allows enough through to kid the ECU that the EGR is working. I'd try cleaning it out and fitting a restrictor plate.

[cpjitservices]

The rough running isn't a good sign in a morning, it's something you'll probably not get to the bottom of until it gets worse. If it's the pre facelift you can blank the EGR, after that the engine was updated to Euro whatever, you couldn't run it with the EGR unplugged, you could block it with a plate with a 3/8 hole in it that allows enough through to kid the ECU that the EGR is working. I'd try cleaning it out and fitting a restrictor plate.

Thats the blanking plate ive got with the hole in the middle, and like I say EGR I have left unplugged. Im dreading that the faulty running on a morning (when cold) is injectors.

 

I might just get my mechanic to do an overhaul on the EGR and test the injectors see what happens. Mileage is at 156k

[sierraman]

It might be to be honest. Have you checked the Aux Belt tensioner, a failing one of these can cause excessive vibration.

 

The EGR can't be overhauled, you need to clean it out with some carb cleaner. A filthy job! Either replace it or clean it out.

 

What filter does it have on it? You want either a Bosch or a Delphi.

 

The rough running in a morning might be incontinent injectors, though you'd be getting dense grey smoke coming out. If it's the injectors it's a case of some recon ones or used, used will almost certainly be on borrowed time, a set of used injectors for £50-100 will want coding as well. If the pumps failing these will be knackered as well.

[tommytwo]

_{Nice to see some appreciation for the Mk3 Mondeo on here. In my view, it is a much under rated car. Mine is identical in color (Juice Green) auto 2.0 litre petrol but is an estate version. 168k miles but the engine is quiet, responsive and uses no oil or water. I have been around mine underneath and there is surface rust only. I think you will find that the gearbox is the Ford C4DE which is a 3 speed with switchable overdrive, the switch is under the gear selector lever. Petrol consumption on a run is very good for an auto, I have had up to 45MPG.}

 

If you ever need a front ball joint, get the garage to do it, as it is riveted to the lower arm and has to be drilled out.New ball joints are cheap, around £20.  Its a hard job, ask me how I know. They can suffer with stiff steering which can be caused by the telescopic joint under the steering wheel getting dry. I greased mine and also the strut bearings and this stopped a lot of creaking and  clonking from the front end clonk. It now steers spot on. They do tend to be prone to suspension clonks but that seems to be easily fixed by new bushings.

 

Overall, I think the Mondeo is a great choice, especially at that price. Enjoy.

 

(Cant seem to format my post proper;y, apologies)

[Mr_Bo11ox]

These had a big knob didn't they 

 

They really do don't they. Is it just me or do most auto transmission selectors look like huge clunking lumps of fisher-price plastic shite. To me they often look like they have been specifically designed for use by someone whose left hand/arm do not work properly. This one is particularly awful I must admit although the idea of a 2.0 auto Mk3 mondeo hatch is quite appealing overall.

[carlo]

_{Nice to see some appreciation for the Mk3 Mondeo on here. In my view, it is a much under rated car. Mine is identical in color (Juice Green) auto 2.0 litre petrol but is an estate version. 168k miles but the engine is quiet, responsive and uses no oil or water. I have been around mine underneath and there is surface rust only. I think you will find that the gearbox is the Ford C4DE which is a 3 speed with switchable overdrive, the switch is under the gear selector lever. Petrol consumption on a run is very good for an auto, I have had up to 45MPG.}

 

If you ever need a front ball joint, get the garage to do it, as it is riveted to the lower arm and has to be drilled out.New ball joints are cheap, around £20.  Its a hard job, ask me how I know. They can suffer with stiff steering which can be caused by the telescopic joint under the steering wheel getting dry. I greased mine and also the strut bearings and this stopped a lot of creaking and  clonking from the front end clonk. It now steers spot on. They do tend to be prone to suspension clonks but that seems to be easily fixed by new bushings.

 

Overall, I think the Mondeo is a great choice, especially at that price. Enjoy.

 

(Cant seem to format my post proper;y, apologies)

 

 

I was wondering how good the auto boxes were on these, and similar aged other Fords as Mrs_Carlo has her and my eye on a 2004 Fiesta 1.6 auto.

 

They seem to be conventional torque converter boxes until the Powershift came out, am I right?  And the ones as on this 2.0 LX one seem to have only three speeds on the selector so one presumes there must be a button on the shift somewhere for the 3/4th overdrive option?

[tommytwo]

The auto boxes are I think, quite good as long as the fluid is changed on a regular basis. For the MK3 Mondy auto, Ford specify Mercon, the name is on the stick at the top.  Dexron 3 is also good, its just the specification you must always check before adding fluid to an auto box. Make sure it is compatible with what is in there.already.

 

The overdrive on the MK3 Mondy is on the right of the T handle, underneath. When the overdrive is in, it shows a"O/D" in the window where the information is shown when you press the "info" handle on the left of the column. It should kick in on a light throttle around 40 mph and one can observe the revs drop as it engages.

 

I am planning to do a partial fluid change on my gearbox this weekend. I use a transfer pump with the pipe down the filler tube.and suck out 4/1/2 litres. Then I add the same amount of Carlube-U which is a full synthetic AFT. I shall do the same again in 2 months. This way, the fluid will be renewed over time. On the C4DE trans, the fluid filter can only be replaced when the box is torn down for overhaul.

 

As for Powershift gearboxes, then sorry, I have no experience with one. Whatever auto car you are thinking of buying, make sure the test drive is long enough for the gearbox to warm up, as this can show problems like slipping, hard shifts, flares and clonks. If a car drives like this, you have to be brave to take it on. You may fix it but you may not. Any gearbox can have problems. But make sure its the other guy who is stuck with the problem and not you!

[vaughant]

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