Some questions regarding Peugeot 405s

[Vince70]

My father has had two early GTX estate models G and H reg (one was identical to the one that junk man had) with the 2 litre petrol engine and one was an Auto the other manual.

 

He bought the second one about 3 years after selling the first one and as soon as he sold it he realised he had made a big mistake as he couldn't find another car which was so practical well built and reliable so I found him a nice 40000 miler for about £600.

At the time he loved a Peugeot as he also had an immaculate 309 Sr (carb model) which was also bloody reliable.

 

I really can't think of another manufacturer that has gone downhill so quick as Peugeot.

 

If I was after one then I would be looking at this one and take a gamble at £250.

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/peugeot/405/116635

But it's the norm of having to many cars and not enough space so it's a no go for me.

[Lacquer Peel]

I'd love a tidyish 405 TD estate again.

[Junkman]

Vince70, on 31 Dec 2016 - 11:59 AM, said:

I really can't think of another manufacturer that has gone downhill so quick as Peugeot.

USA 1980s...

But yes, it was as if someone flicked a switch.

[carlo]

I always thought the 2.0 only became available in the facelift models?

 

It did although people often referred to the old 1905cc engines as 2.0 litres.

[Junkman]

I'd love a tidyish 405 TD estate again.

 

Buy a fine comb...

[pshome]

I'm sure you're right and I would love a 504 or a 505 - if I could afford one.

 

simply join the upcoming autoshite pilgrimage to Bulgaria:

 

http://www.carmarket.bg/peugeot-504-2.0-1136661

[Junkman]

L'interieur c'est fucked.

[pshome]

L'interieur c'est fucked.

new carpets @ 10€ do wonders.

[BorniteIdentity]

One being broken here with some upmarket chairs.

 

Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262769458872

[Shep Shepherd]

This one?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8GHiY6jmR8

 

That's the one. I will forever associate "Take My Breath Away" by Berlin with the 405, not that wanky plane film.

[r.welfare]

It's now 20 years since they went out of production, and nearly 10 years since I sold my last one. I briefly tried a 406 but the 1.9TD, so perky in a 405, was overburdened by the extra weight. I reckon a V6 would work quite well though.

 

For what it's worth, two of my four 405s needed welding on the front legs below the struts, but the upper bodywork was always pristine. Shame the headlinings on the estates did a Volvo 740, and I fought a losing battle against broken internal door lock knobs. Otherwise, an extremely enjoyable four years and 80,000 miles.

[406V6]

I briefly tried a 406 but the 1.9TD, so perky in a 405, was overburdened by the extra weight. I reckon a V6 would work quite well though.

It does. Totally transforms the driving experience  (I drove a few 405 1.6 manuals when they were new). Also no rusting on mine.

[sco14]

For sale on Peugeot Enthusiasts Group

 

https://www.facebook.com/Slaterspeed/photos/pcb.1613536768951987/1613527635619567/?type=3

 

Problem with engine mount. MOT history looks okay.

[Junkman]

It's now 20 years since they went out of production...

 

That's not entirely true. In fact, they are still being built: https://www.ikco.ir/en/Product.aspx?ID=43&Section=1&Series=Peugeot+405

 

405s were/are built in:

 

Argentina by (Sevel) (1992–2000)

Chile, by Franco Chilena

Egypt, by Iran Khodro (2006–present)

France (1987-97)

Indonesia, by Gaya (1989–1997)

Iran, by Iran Khodro (1992–present)

Malaysia, by OASB

Poland, by FSC (1993–1995)

Taiwan, by Yu-Tien (1989–1995)

United Kingdom (1987–1997)

Zimbabwe, by Quest (1987–2002)

 

Not counting the ones built outside France and England, 3,461,800 were made until 1997, which puts it in position 50 of the World's best selling cars of all times list.

If figures would exist for the entire production, it would inevitably rise higher on the list, maybe even surpassing pshome's baby, the 504, which is in spot 49.

 

Oh, and the English built ones are a bit better put together than the French ones.

[Lacquer Peel]

I think all UK market 405 estates are French built, as are the posher saloons.

[Junkman]

My white 405 GTX estate was built in Royton according to the build plate in the engine compartment.

It was definitely better built than all the others I had.

[Lacquer Peel]

Interesting. I'm sure both of my 405 estates had VINs beginning with 'VF', 1996 GTX TD and 1997 Style TD.

[Junkman]

My current estate also clearly says Made in France on the build plate.

Build quality is noticeably lower than my white one was.

[D Spares & Tyres]

Fetch the MIG!

 

 Rear chassis member a bit frayed...

 

 

 

Front chassis seems to have been welded properly a while ago...

 

 

Some plates are starting to show their age..

 

 

The roof makes a good screwdriver holder

 

 

The strut tops are good though. Well they are now anyway

 

 

There are plenty more holes too.  This was a well looked after example but it is a 23 year old car. They have lasted better than most but I suppose it was to be expected eventually

 

Sorry to ruin your day Junkman but these rot. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but someday..... Peel back any loose underseal and get the wax out before it is too late!!

[Junkman]

Mine.

Does.

Not.

Have.

Underseal.

 

And the only one I had that needed a bit of welding did have underseal.

 

Conclusion:

 

Underseal makes them rot.

[explosive-cabbage]

205s do rot, but nobody knows about it because it is under all that funny elasticy French underseal like they put on the 405s.

 

Oh, wait a minute.... wrong thread! 😉

[Supernaut]

The roof makes a good screwdriver holder

 

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Autoshite modern art contest entrant?

[Junkman]

The real question is how to replace a 405 with a 504 without having to suffer want in all other aspects of life for years to come.

[alcyonecorporation]

In the same way driver aids can't overcome physics, 05 and 06 Peugeots can't overcome chemistry.

 

They last pretty well, though - apart from the 305s, obvs.

[pshome]

The real question is how to replace a 405 with a 504 without having to suffer want in all other aspects of life for years to come.

 

hacksaw, glue, done

[Arragonis]

Don't forget the Peugeot Roa

 

[Bag'O'Spanners]

RWD Iranian Pug 405 (ish) Can see the leaf springs at the back of that Roa..... Nice

[pshome]

is there even such a thing like a 405 or does it only exist in junkman's mind?

 

406 followed 504, proof: