MOT and that

[Isaac Hunt]

Had a car fail the MOT last week, rear parking brake n/s/r. I've sorted it now, looks like the calipers were never adjusted 'proper' when it had discs n pads just before we bought it a couple of years ago.

 

Got me thinking, under old MOT rules before instant record update, if you had had the MOT before expiry the old MOT was still valid.

 

On the new system, the refusal form says "this document tells you that your vehicle has not been shown to meet the minimum legal requirements forthe reason(s) detailed. If you intend to use your vehicle on the road you should have it repaired without delay and have it re-tested before the existing validity expires". But then on the GOV UK site it says "you can take your vehicle away if your MOT certificate is valid..........your vehicle still needs to meet the minimum standards of road worthiness at all times or you can be fined.

 

I suppose it depends upon the fault "tyres are obvious" as to how the minimum legal standard is measured at the roadside if you get stopped. E.g without putting our car on the brake rollers you wouldn't know if we had fixed it or not.

[Richard]

You can't trust the gov.uk site, I've seen a few errors on there, they even had their speed limit information wrong until I pointed it out to them. I think this guy is their webmaster http://sniffpetrol.com/category/askatotalprick/ .

[billyboy406v6]

I suppose it means if police stop you and have a casual look round car for defects, like bald tyres, duff headlight etc ?

[Isaac Hunt]

Only reason I started thinking about it was I read a post on another forum saying the rules had changed. This is my first failure for a considerable time (spend quite some time checking them over and preparing them) and my tester commented "when does your old MOT Expire". I said about the 6th May and he replied "you are alright for a few days then"

 

As it turns out, it expired the day of the test Friday, not a prob, don't need to use the car over the weekend and I've fixed it yesterday, new rear pads, discs and a correctly lubricated and adjusted handbrake.

 

Shame the current cert has expired, I would be interested to see what the various diff on-line databases showed ref MOT status in the 'failed before expiry of old"

 

I'm willing to bet that the handbrake now meets the minimum standard and all will be well when we drop it back in the rollers after the bank hol.

[Richard]

An MOT lasts until its expiry date. Obviously there are certain defects that it's not acceptable to drive with, but the car would still be MOTed.

[chodweaver]

This is the reason I got a pre Mot check done recently. Ie my tame tester went through everything but didn't put it 'on the system'. Because if you have two Mot test results, one a pass (and not yet expired), one a fail, the fail overrides the pass.

Just to confuse matters further, a cracked fog light lens that shows white light is not a fail, as long as there are two fog lights and the other fog light is good. The rozzers will however do you for the cracked lens if it emits white light...

 

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[Urko]

If you couldn't (legally) drive after a fail it would render all the MOT only places redundant - which would be a shame as I've used some very fair ones in the past.

[scaryoldcortina]

This is the reason I got a pre Mot check done recently. Ie my tame tester went through everything but didn't put it 'on the system'. Because if you have two Mot test results, one a pass (and not yet expired), one a fail, the fail overrides the pass. Just to confuse matters further, a cracked fog light lens that shows white light is not a fail, as long as there are two fog lights and the other fog light is good. The rozzers will however do you for the cracked lens if it emits white light... Sent from my GT-S5830i using Tapatalk 2

Not the case. Any lamp showing white light to the rear is a fail (in this case 1.3 2e) and the requirement for foglamp is for there to be one fitted to the offside or centre of the vehicle, so if you have two of them and the driver's side one doesn't work it's a fail.

[Isaac Hunt]

Because if you have two Mot test results, one a pass (and not yet expired), one a fail, the fail overrides the pass.

 

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Does the fail override the pass in terms of road legality. Assuming my MOT had not expired and I've fixed the defect, the vehicle therefore meets the minimum standard as therefore the wording on the fail certificate "if you intend to use your vehicle on the road you should have it repaired without delay and have it tested before the existing validity date expires. I interpret this as meaning the fail does not override the existing MOT from a legal to drive on the road, but It is all a bit "depends which bit you read".

[Pillock]

The rules are, for every six "all new cars are shit" threads we must have one questioning whether a fail overrides a pass if the pass was less than a year ago.

 

I haven't heard of any new rules that weren't from a person on the internet.

[Dave_Q]

MOTs are still valid for a year.

MOT fails are readily available online.

 

In theory, this gives an officer that stops you a handy list of things to check to see if you are roadworthy, but 1) nobody has heard of this actually happening, and 2) it doesn't mean your old MOT is invalid, just that unroadworthy car is unroadworthy, as ever.

[meggersdog]

If you couldn't (legally) drive after a fail it would render all the MOT only places redundant - which would be a shame as I've used some very fair ones in the past.

You are allowed to drive to a pre arranged place of repair.This might be a garage or your own driveway.You are not allowed to go and do your shopping on the way though.Once repaired you can then drive it for a pre arranged re-test.

[Lacquer Peel]

There's nothing to say you can't stop your expired car anywhere on the way to an MOT, or on the way back from a failed one.

 

[scaryoldcortina]

^ True, it's a common fallacy based on a confusion between MOT regulations and trade plate ones. You can't park a car on trade plates.

[Eddie Honda]

As DaveQ says. Old MOT is valid, so you couldn't be done for not having a valid MOT offence (fine/not endorsable), but you could be done for a C&U offence, but then that's always been the case, MOT passed the day before or not.

[Pillock]

^ True, it's a common fallacy based on a confusion between MOT regulations and trade plate ones. You can't park a car on trade plates.

 

No, they're much too small. At the very least you'd need four, one under each wheel.