First Middle Lane Hugger to be Executed in Public

[Mr_Bo11ox]

£950 fine for hogging the middle lane? The fucking worlds gone mad. He's a fucking painter and decorator in a shitty old Berlingo for gods sake, give him a fixed penalty and let him get on with his life. If I had to find A FUCKING GRAND because someone thought I'd been sat too long in the middle lane, id just flippin cash my chips in in protest.

[CHRIS1980]

It does seem harsh that fine. It annoys the shit out of me when on the motorway and the middle lanes hogged. But come on,it looks like they used him as an example to others. Speeding has the potential to do more damage.

[forddeliveryboy]

Inappropriate speed, do you mean? Doing 80 on a deserted motorway in a car which is designed for it and properly serviced and tyred has less potential to do damage than driving through a housing estate at 30 on a Saturday afternoon in summer.

[CHRIS1980]

Inappropriate speed, do you mean? Doing 80 on a deserted motorway in a car which is designed for it and properly serviced and tyred has less potential to do damage than driving through a housing estate at 30 on a Saturday afternoon in summer.

That's true. But like any offence,the circumstances should be taken into account.

[castros_bro]

£950 fine for hogging the middle lane? The fucking worlds gone mad. He's a fucking painter and decorator in a shitty old Berlingo for gods sake, give him a fixed penalty and let him get on with his life. If I had to find A FUCKING GRAND because someone thought I'd been sat too long in the middle lane, id just flippin cash my chips in in protest.

 

 

Yeah you're right there fucking cunts should heve given him a fixed panalty of say £100 and 3 points rather then reading the article in post numero eine.

 

Usually, drivers who are suspected of such offences are given on-the-spot fines of £100 as well as three points on their licences

But in June, 42-year-old painter and decorator Ian Stephens of Wigan, Greater Manchester, was convicted of anti-social driving in Leeds Magistrates’ Court after he refused to accept an initial fine.

In total, Stephens had to pay £940 in fines and costs and was hit with a five-point licence penalty.

He did not appear in court, but has since denied the allegations against him.

 

Irony

[Negative Creep]

Bloody brilliant. God bless that dash cam. Hopefully no-one was injured.

Would love to hear how the Pug driver tried to talk their way out of that.

 

 

Be interesting to know how that one was settled - would the person who went into the back of him be held liable?

[dugong]

IIRC the Pug driver went down for causing a massive accident.

[HH-R]

My 2p on tailgating

 

If someone's tailgating you, you're in their way & should let them past. Otherwise you're a twat - it's not your job to enforce speed limits!

 

However, the *tailgater* is a twat if they're tailgating you when there's no chance for you to pull over.

 

What a lovely attitude, obviously with the venomous way people treat each other on the roads, this is a popular view.

 

Whether you like the speed limit or not, speeding is gambling that the trade off of getting there sooner vs being caught/crashing/killing someone/whatever works in your favour.

 

If someone wants to play that game then they're free to get the fuck past, as you say it's not my job to enforce speed limits. Tailgating gets them nowhere faster, in fact some people slow down because of it!

 

The trouble with pulling over (which I often do rather than have the aggro nowadays) is that when you're at the front of a long queue of traffic and no one will let you get back out. Worse, it can cause an obstruction to other road users following the rules* just because someone decides to punish you for sticking to the speed limit. There's the added risk of being stopped and having mr magoo/someone playing with their phone smack into the back of you.

 

There's also the problem of when you get rid of one, you invariably get another. Why should I keep stopping?

 

* as an example there was someone right up my arse last year so I DID pull over for her to get past, I mean she was obviously going somewhere REALLY important by wanting to speed through a school zone at opening time. Unfortunately for her, she was stuck behind me for ages, tooting and shouting at me because the traffic was heavy coming the other way and she couldn't pull out. Oh dear. I'd like to think she'd learn from her inconsiderate driving, but I've got a feeling she spent the rest of the day telling all and sundry about how "some fucking arsehole in a shitty little car was going REALLY slow in front of me and then just stopped!!! I was stuck behind for AGES and was late to pilates!!!!" "wow, he just pulled over?" "well, I mean there was ample indication, and gradual braking so I didn't plough straight into the back of him, and I was so close that I couldn't see round to plan overtaking, but how dare he!!!!"

[HH-R]

BTW people who drive below the speed limit for no good reason say on a very clear road/fine weather boil my piss too, but I know that driving right up their chuff is going to achieve nothing. If I can't get past then I have to suck it up.

[John F]

What a lovely attitude, obviously with the venomous way people treat each other on the roads, this is a popular view.

 

Whether you like the speed limit or not, speeding is gambling that the trade off of getting there sooner vs being caught/crashing/killing someone/whatever works in your favour.

 

If someone wants to play that game then they're free to get the fuck past, as you say it's not my job to enforce speed limits. Tailgating gets them nowhere faster, in fact some people slow down because of it!

 

The trouble with pulling over (which I often do rather than have the aggro nowadays) is that when you're at the front of a long queue of traffic and no one will let you get back out. Worse, it can cause an obstruction to other road users following the rules* just because someone decides to punish you for sticking to the speed limit. There's the added risk of being stopped and having mr magoo/someone playing with their phone smack into the back of you.

 

There's also the problem of when you get rid of one, you invariably get another. Why should I keep stopping?

 

* as an example there was someone right up my arse last year so I DID pull over for her to get past, I mean she was obviously going somewhere REALLY important by wanting to speed through a school zone at opening time. Unfortunately for her, she was stuck behind me for ages, tooting and shouting at me because the traffic was heavy coming the other way and she couldn't pull out. Oh dear. I'd like to think she'd learn from her inconsiderate driving, but I've got a feeling she spent the rest of the day telling all and sundry about how "some fucking arsehole in a shitty little car was going REALLY slow in front of me and then just stopped!!! I was stuck behind for AGES and was late to pilates!!!!" "wow, he just pulled over?" "well, I mean there was ample indication, and gradual braking so I didn't plough straight into the back of him, and I was so close that I couldn't see round to plan overtaking, but how dare he!!!!"

 

Venomous? lol.

 

I was actually thinking about motorways & dual carriageways, where bimblers have ample opportunity to pull back into the inside lane. But hey, you go ahead & get it off your chest...

[Negative Creep]

IIRC the Pug driver went down for causing a massive accident.

 

 

Good. I keep saying I'll buy a dashcam every payday but still haven't yet

[RayMK]

I have often seen drivers staying in the overtaking lane when the left lanes are free of traffic, and a small queue of impatient/held-up drivers forms behind them.  Hoggers, it seems, do not use rear view mirrors.  Tailgating is not an excusable tactic.  It is dangerous.  Such drivers tend to suddenly overtake without indicating, though often they signal that they are returning to the left hand lane afterwards - which on normal roads with a single lane each way is nice to know  .  I rarely tailgate because over 50% of drivers on motorways and dual carriageways apparently don't know how fast they are travelling.  If they see a police car or a radar trap, they jam their brakes on.  I assume they realise that the speed limit for cars on dual carriageways is 70mph unless signposted otherwise, but I do wonder.  Oh well, it is not worth getting too worked up about.

[New POD]

With a £940 fine, EVERY  coopers should be able to nail about 100 offenders a week. 

 

Nearly 50 million quid a year - should be able to build a hospital or two with that.

 

I'm not sure of your maths, but if they had targets. Like the MET have to build 7 hospitals a year.

[martybabes]

BTW people who drive below the speed limit for no good reason say on a very clear road/fine weather boil my piss too, but I know that driving right up their chuff is going to achieve nothing. If I can't get past then I have to suck it up.

 

 

It's a speed LIMIT not a target!!!  People ARE entitled to travel at a speed lower than the limit.

 

 

 

 

Now, where's me tablets...

[robinmasters]

As much as I dislike lane-hogging and tailgating, on the spot fines, for vaguely-defined offences, aren't the answer.

 

This is an attempt to go back to the good old days, when the police would pull drivers over, give them a ticking off, and send them on their way. The driver would feel suitably chastised, and, at least for a while, would be on their best behaviour.

 

That's not how people react these days. The majority of the scrotes that tailgate/lane-hog won't accept they've done anything wrong, a proportion of them will get off, and those that don't won't learn from it.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I don't really agree with the above (Mr B that is).

 

He was given the initial fine, and denied the offence - so it goes to court.

He failed to appear in court, so was hit with a bigger total (as a result of the court's costs, which they would not have incurred if he had accepted the initial fine), and perhaps points on reflection of the court reviewing supplied dash cam footage or in response to officers' testimony.

 

 

You're quite right to be fair, the lad seems to have done his best to get as much piss on his own chips as possible.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

That youtube clip is 176% class. I love the massive 'SMASH' noise and the bloke's wail of despair. 17.6/10

[Taff]

there is a stretch of the A46 that I do everyday, which has two layby's on it, both of which have mobile camera vans in them at least once a month. In the last 5 years, I have been done by both vans, I've learnt the hardway and stick to a steady 50 as I approach both layby's. The A46 is a duel carriageway throughout this stretch and in the morning, I'll routinely be in the overtaking lane, at my steady 50mph, inching past a lorry/bus/moped with someone who doesn't know the stretch of road up the arse of the F (so all I can see in my mirrors in their grill). If there is nothing to overtake, I sit in the inside lane and let them blatt by, waiting for their too-late brake lights and nose dive when they see the van.

 

 

Only once has a tailgater noticed the camera van, and acknowledged that I have just saved them a few quid. Still, fuck 'em

[alf892]

Love the idea of the dash cam in the back window!

 

In the rover all a front mounted one would ever see would be the odd milk float or tired cyclist................. although I did once blat by an Austin 7 (it was a relative blat......)

[colnerov]

 Hi, motorway,s have 3 lanes. Lane 1 is for scared wrinklies and lorry,s with working speed limiters. Lane 2 is for vehicles doing 70mph and lorry,s with non working speed limiters. Lane 3 is for vehicles that think the speed limit doesn't apply to them and clueless wrinklies going the other way

 

 Colin

[face]

I do a fair bit of motorway travelling each week and tend to drive at an average of 75mph, as this returns decent economy and doesn't get me stressed out. Not had hardly any tail-gaters but heaps of lane-hogging. It is a problem.

 

My favourite are the second lane-hoggers who drive as fast as the traffic allows them, but NEVER change lane. So they come streaming past you at great speed and 5 minutes later you cruise past them once they have caught up a slow moving vehicle. 2 minutes later they are past you again. Repeat.

It almost always is a youngish woman (lord knows why) in something like an Evoque or some awful shit like that.

[daveb47]

I have an old Dashcam in rear window of volvo with screen facing behind so they can see themselves in it.

Never get tailgaters since i did this.

Also have one facing forwards.

[Squire_Dawson]

People are stupid. Always have been, always will be.

[fred]

Im so outraged Ive set fire to myself, and my goldfish.

I may chop my head off when the smoke clears with a desert spoon - bastards

[Negative Creep]

Talking of motoring offences, what do we think of this? Guy goes drifting on a public road, banned for 12 months, 150 hours unpaid work, £1500 fine

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3153824/Driver-banned-road-film-driving-SIDEWAYS-hairpin-Fast-Furious-style-stunt-posted-Facebook.html

 

 

Pregnant woman drink driving with no insurance and no licence, 14 month ban and £225 fine

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3156541/Pregnant-mother-26-caught-drink-driving-daughter-7-car-day-birth.html

 

 

 

Not that I'm condoning the first guy, but seems a bit harsh when you compare it with the woman's punishment

[Junkman]

I have an old Dashcam in rear window of volvo with screen facing behind so they can see themselves in it.

Never get tailgaters since i did this.

Also have one facing forwards.

 

You will need four more. One left, one right, one skyward and one underneath the floor.

 

Talking of motoring offences, what do we think of this? Guy goes drifting on a public road, banned for 12 months, 150 hours unpaid work, £1500 fine

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3153824/Driver-banned-road-film-driving-SIDEWAYS-hairpin-Fast-Furious-style-stunt-posted-Facebook.html

 

 

Pregnant woman drink driving with no insurance and no licence, 14 month ban and £225 fine

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3156541/Pregnant-mother-26-caught-drink-driving-daughter-7-car-day-birth.html

 

 

 

Not that I'm condoning the first guy, but seems a bit harsh when you compare it with the woman's punishment

But the guy with his Datsun had fun. Nowadays that's a lot more illegal than being a war criminal.

[chaseracer]

what did you not see the wilderbeast run in front of his car? specsavers!

 

The wanker who wiped out the two cars behind me a few years ago tried a similar argument when he "defended" himself* in court.  The bench seemed to consider me a more credible witness**...

 

 

 

* Thereby proving the saying that "a man who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client".

** I know!  AMAZING!!

[dieselnutjob]

My 604 has an electric blind in the rear window.  If I am genuinely overtaking and someone gets fed up with me overtaking too slowly and starts flashing / tailgating I just hit the button and the blind goes up.  Then they just don't exist anymore.  Brilliant feature.

[dieselnutjob]

I meant 607.  The 604 doesn't have that.

[xtriple]

My car has such dreadful rear vision that you can flash your lights to your hearts content and I will never see them and as I drive everywhere with my mirrors folded in (creates drag dont'cha'know!) I am oblivious to any and all carnage I create around me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:)