bora. any good?

[MarvinsMom]

HOW MUCH???!!!!!??!?

 

that is £1500 pound cash sterling and not some odd mongolian whoopwhee's or something similar??

 

that is for a shitty VW bora and not a maserati bora?

[bub2006]

Yep,vw bora. Punto is 900 quid a year. I've not held a full licence that long and had 3 points from driving within accordance of my license 2 years ago. Funny thing is the volvo 440 1.8 I looked at was cheapest insurance on anything I owned or looked at

[dieselassist]

...even tho this is an 'early' TDi bora with the 90bhp motor; theres a 50/50 chance it may have the DMF - Ive broken two lowish miles 120k n 140k miles- mk4 golfs - 99 and 00 reg, n both had DMF's when I was separating engine from box - one was AGR engine code (non VNT turbo basic 90nhp model), and I was told that 'it definitely wont have DMF, that - look on the internet...

...not sure why this is- VW roadtesting their new DMF designs via its customers??

 

...left hand rear caliper will have most likely seized n the pads are low, if its sat up for more than 2 months - Its happened to two Ive had here - went to the scrappies to find all but one mk4 golfs had been relieved of their rh calipers or both side...

 

front wings are pressed from rizzla gauge metal n rust round the arch/near the a pillar n up front...

 

Look for dented curbed alloys/steel rims - the rear axle/beam will bend surprisingly easy....

 

 

Gearlinkage can feel all sloppy n vague - the gate has a good few inner moving parts - combination of plastic n metal n bits snap inside the gate box - most will still work with bits broken but it will feel like 'stirrin poridge'...

 

window reg's n door handles can fail randomly n are a handslashing infuriating war to fix...

 

There are better diesel cars available  - theres not too much to mk4s, even tho they look substantial its like vw were cost cutting in many areas...

 

They are cheap to keep on the road tho as they are very common, n you can always find someone breaking one n bits are pennies to buy - here at least...

[CHRIS1980]

I have a VW Bora. Its a 2005 130PD Highline. Up until 4-5 months ago it's been ultra reliable,but mine has a warm start issue that May or may not affect your engine. I've been researching on VAG forums trying to sift through the bullshit about "stance" and what's the biggest wheels I can fit. Vw folk are funny people. Overall it's been great,mines an auto but still average 35mpg round the streets,but just cannot beat 48average on the motorway. I did have EGR issues on mine a couple of years ago, the local stealer wanted elentymillon pounds for a new one but trawled the net and found out that a can of mister muscle oven cleaner and an old tooth brush clean it out. I tried to blank it off but my car knew I had after 20 mins of driving and flashed up an emissions fault code. The interior has stood up OK, I mean ok but compared to Peugeots and Citroens I've had with more miles it's starting look tired in comparison. They coat the plastic with some soft touch type of stuff that's starting to flake off now,I had the same on an A4 Audi and I managed to remove it with my finger nails. It took ages and revealed the cheaper looking plastic underneath but did look more tidy. I have to say I'm happy with it after a fashion but it will be my last German car for sure. As for the one your looking at,for 300 sheets I would go for it.

[HH-R]

Fuck me, 1500 quid!

 

At the age and price of the car it's probably more down to how it is and how it has been looked after rather than inherent faults(of which VAG cars have none of, of course*)

[CHRIS1980]

Insurance in this country is a joke. My wife's from Latvia and explained to me the way insurance works there is government controlled through registration. If the cars registered it's insured,and the cost is tiny in comparison. Average is 50-60 euros per year.They don't punish you for being a young driver that's why I saw young lads in big beemers and the like. Also the car is insured for anyone to drive,none of this named driver cash cow crap!

[New POD]

The only thing I know about them is that they should have called them JETTA

[Pillock]

They do, now.

[JohnK]

I always thought the name change with each new model from Jetta to Vento to Bora then back to Jetta was pointless. Is the Jetta still in production? I remember seeing loads of them about in 2008 but haven't seen one for years.

[sloth]

jetta is still alive and well.

 

for 300 sovs it would be worth buying then selling to a pineapple cunt when it runs out of mot.  treat it like a hire car.

[TRW]

The only thing I know about them is that they should have called them Vento

 

FTFY

[skattrd]

Can't stand 'em, but for £300 even I'd have a dip at that. Veg friendly (as mentioned above) and to be fair they can't half seem to crack up some big mileages.

 

Skattrd is your man here, he loves his and has had pretty much no trouble at all with his. 

 

Mine is a 110 with a few subtle mods, it did have dmf, but I converted to solid flywheel when the clutch needed doing (I still owe Moog a pint or 3 for carting the flywheel around for me). They're pretty bulletproof motors and parts are cheap. The worst job I've had to do on mine (currently on 235k) was bushes on the rear beam, clonking from the rear, it's usually those bushes, they're about a tenner each but you pretty much need to remove the rear axle. Suspension is a bit wallowy, so fit stiffer shocks if they need doing. Wishbone bushes wear, but a new wishbone with them fitted is around £30, 3 bolts job done. Electric window regulators fail regularly as they are made of the lowest quality plastic, but a couple of hours and £15 or so in parts sees one replaced. Cambelt kit and waterpump comes to around £100, so it'd be nice if it had been done, 60k interval as I've just done mine again.

Bigger injector nozzles on the 90 will pretty much turn it in to 110

 

Fuelly below shows me averaging 56mpg over 60k miles. Even with a broken thermostat I was still getting 47mpg, but I rarely do short journeys.

[twosmoke300]

Chris , I've seen a few pd vws with hot start issues . New starters usually fix them . When a pd engine is hot the ecu needs to see 200 rpm to fire the injectors or it will crank for about 10 secs before it starts . When they are cold the ecu bypasses this . Make sure your battery , leads and starter are tip top . If you can watch live data via a diagnostic system even better

[CHRIS1980]

Chris , I've seen a few pd vws with hot start issues . New starters usually fix them . When a pd engine is hot the ecu needs to see 200 rpm to fire the injectors or it will crank for about 10 secs before it starts . When they are cold the ecu bypasses this . Make sure your battery , leads and starter are tip top . If you can watch live data via a diagnostic system even better

Thanks for the info,I only just found that out recently as well. It's taken ages to find info on this fault. It would seem the same symptoms are produced by numerous different faults. But it would seem to point towards the battery as initially it would only do it in the winter.