Modern suspension is shyte

[MrDuke]

the fact that we are all here and NOT on the blue forum is all we need say about it....

 

I'm assuming that's the royal "we"? Seriously, most of us haven't even bothered with different user-names, so I'm not quite sure where you got that idea from.

[Justin Case]

It's the wheels; my Alfa 156 had firm suspension  but on 185/65R15 tyres on steel wheels it was still very comfortable,as well as handling brilliantly So why are wheels so big? I was next to a DAF 105, which I think is the big one, and it had 22" wheels, hardly more than an Sline Audi, but it seemed to be carrying 44tonnes quite happily

[Pillock]

This idea that you can only like brown or blue is a bit tiresome. It's only the stifled nature of conversation that drove me here, actually some of the creations are bloody good and the workmanship on the whole is excellent. There's the odd letdown but then again we have threads like this. Go figure.

[Lacquer Peel]

It's the wheels; my Alfa 156 had firm suspension  but on 185/65R15 tyres on steel wheels it was still very comfortable,as well as handling brilliantly So why are wheels so big? I was next to a DAF 105, which I think is the big one, and it had 22" wheels, hardly more than an Sline Audi, but it seemed to be carrying 44tonnes quite happily

 

This picture accurately shows what's happened in just a couple of generations of cars; the 308 and its amorphous contemporaries weighed down with heavy design features would look even sillier with 14" or 15" wheels. I think I'm right in saying the 308 is fitted with 17" alloys, the 405 14".

[Split_Pin]

Lovely smooth ride in our 62 plate Chevy. Both of my cars are lowered with large wheels and one has coilovers, ride is pretty firm but I don't mind as they handle well.

 

On these new cars, the big wheels and low profile tyres are partly to blame.

[Rusty Pelican]

That 308 makes me want to puke its so ugly 

[dugong]

With all my stuff stuck down in Cambs I was getting around in MOTHA_DUGONG's A1.

 

Unlike many modern 'small' cars, it's compact enough to maneouvre and throw around on smooth roads. The atrocious low speed ride however killed any chance of me enjoying it properly. Why does a city rounabout with no power need rock hard suspension and 40 profile tyres? I can see broken springs (or at the very least new bump stops) in this car's future, simply because ofhow hard the suspension and bottom arms were having to work.

 

I did a rebound test on an appallingly surfaced local road that made Trafford's bastard patchwork mockery look like the work of skilled artisans. It's NSL and quite devious; the first half of it undulates fairly smoothly before a left hand kink throws up every MIRA cliche you can think of. Carry enough speed and your car sails into a huge depression that can lift you out of your seat if the shocks check its contours too suddenly. Out of the 140k Citroen C4, 170k KNOB_VAN and 19k Audi A1, in which car do you think my head hit the roof?

[vulgalour]

Asking the owner of a modern if there's something wrong with their new car's suspension doesn't go down too well.  Oh it's meant to be like that?  I thought it was broken.

 

No, I don't want people to like me, why do you ask?

[Albert Ross]

Gonna say it again..... Volvo V50. It's an SE Lux, so no silly wheel sizes or sidewalls. Decent seats, heated too. Just drive a tiny bit slower, watch for odd surfaces, and avoid them.....

[They_all_do_that_sir]

This picture accurately shows what's happened in just a couple of generations of cars; the 308 and its amorphous contemporaries weighed down with heavy design features would look even sillier with 14" or 15" wheels. I think I'm right in saying the 308 is fitted with 17" alloys, the 405 14".

 

Holy cow. And I considered the 405 a large car in its day. That 308 is a whale

[Justin Case]

This picture accurately shows what's happened in just a couple of generations of cars; the 308 and its amorphous contemporaries weighed down with heavy design features would look even sillier with 14" or 15" wheels. I think I'm right in saying the 308 is fitted with 17" alloys, the 405 14".

Thanks for posting the pic of the 308, it has saved me the cost of a visit to the sealife centre in Brum

[Timewaster]

Fairly Basic 2014 Focus Estate with low resistance tyres and steel wheels.

Not at all bad.

It's no 405 but is not eyeball rattlingly firm either.

[HH-R]

I take back what I said the other day about the 308 not looking so gopping nowadays, that's one hideous vehicle!

[DS20]

It looks like a basking shark wearing a gumshield.  

[MarvinsMom]

no its one of those blobfish things....

 

pug thing....

 

 

blobfish.....

[Lacquer Peel]

 

Unnecessary jewellery apart, the current 308 isn't a bad looking thing.

 

Can you buy a car today with independent torsion bar (not beam) suspension?