Tell me about: Shite 4X4s

[Ratdat]

[Junkman]

[Junkman]

[DVee8]

How about a Nissan X-trail if you can get one in the right price range.

We have ran them for 8 years now they like brake discs and pads,rust around rear arches and boot,dci can eat turbos and intercoolers.2.5 petrol likes a drink but plenty of torque,2.0 petrol a little slow.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NISSAN-X-TRAIL-4X4-SPORT-2002-RENAULT-SCENIC-2003-/291095277016?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43c6a16dd8

 

This is on the Blue

http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/162703/2000-daihatsu-terios-leeds-price

[Ratdat]

I had a lovely '88 Niva but I have to admit, it really wasn't the most agreeable vehicle to live with. Very slow, very uneconomical and fairly grim to drive. But bloody awesome off-road ability and super easy to work on plus everything is still available for them. Not ideal if you want a road vehicle but great if you're a Siberian bear hunter.

[RichardMoss]

Small, light, cheap, very capable and definitely shite:  I give you the Jeep XJ Cherokee:

 

[crapcarcollector]

I've got a mk2 CRV with 165k on it and full 'onda history till I had it two years ago. I never keep my cars more than 6 months. Not this though, you can call it soft, flaccid or whatever, tis fucking epic. I absolutely love it. Off road? Yes, it does enough and I've tried to get it stuck without success, I guess you probably could, but it just works great 99% of the time

 

 

Sent from my Nokia 3310 using the force.

[red5]

Shall we do another OVROAD MONGFEST?  I might even turn up to this one.  I know that the Welsh fest could be a bit OVROAD, but there is the small issue of having to go to Wales. 

 

Yes. That is all.

[mat_the_cat]

I had a lovely '88 Niva

 

I have to admit, that's one of the vehicles I'd actually want to buy if I could afford a brand new car

http://www.markkey.co.uk/

 

You;d have the benefit of all that new shininess, without having to suffer the bloated modern designs that normally go along with it.

 

Oh, and...

 

 

...what the actual fuck?!

[Guest Breadvan72]

Yes. That is all.

 

 

Alrighty tighty.  Red5's back garden and ornamental shrubbery it is, then.

[red5]

it's already full of Fronterrors...I'll make some space lads.

[Junkman]

Oh, and...

 

 

...what the actual fuck?!

 

Ferves Ranger.

 

[dangerousdave]

in answer to OVROAD MONGFEST id love to attend if its somewhere not too stupidly far from Sheffield as of 4x4 id say original range rover same size as Cherokee incredible off road parts are cheap and plentiful but the time to buy is soon as 2 doors are unaffordable and 4 doors are heading that way

[Ghosty]

 

 

Someone said "don't" for a Shogun Pinin. What happen to these? Also, wasn't there a tiny sub 1 litre version of these? 

 

Pajero Jr.! I used to see one of those now and then in high school.  A litre of pure offroad power!

 

A little research tells me a kei car version also exists - the Pajero Mini.

 

I'd guess they'd be hard as hell to find in the UK, though.

[Pillock]

I think Range Rovers are well and truly out of budget already.

Mavericks are being actively hunted, as are Terranos (which are invariably more expensive, weird).

Fronteras have an eye cast over them.

Foresters are on the list.

Panda Sisleys are annoyingly expensive for what amounts to a tin can sat on top of a 4WD system.

[barmatt]

I'll be returning to 4x4 ownership at some point in the near future but I'll be buying another Disco. I know what people say about them but I've had a few of them and so long as you shop around and find one of the not too rusty ones out there everything else is cheap and easy to repair/replace and the engines are uber reliable if serviced regularly.

 

I think they're one of the best all round motors and like a true sad Green Oval addict I am missing not having at least one on the drive

[Pillock]

Discos are too tall for the garage.

Some of the Yank stuff posted is too tall, wide and long. 

Currently looking at a Frontera with holed sills (after promising myself I wouldn't buy anything needing work I couldn't do myself), after missing out on a Vitara that had a substantial part of the engine in the boot after OMGHGF, end price £96.

[barmatt]

Fronterrors aren't too bad. I've driven a couple of them and they aren't as shite as folk made out, not great offroad but not terrible either. I haven't driven a 2l but I would have thought they'd be a bit underpowered.

[Pillock]

Also just searched for a Terrano to find one ending in 37 seconds, finished at £365 but it didn't give me enough time to even look through all the pictures and read the advert.... turns out it had a noisy gearbox so maybe a lucky escape. Nearly did a "bid now, worry later" job though.

[Barry Cade]

Terrano gearboxes are VERY heavy. Not something you could drop out on your own without a transmission jack or a couple of trolley jacks if you're doing it the right shite way. I found this out the hard way and had to summon help quickly but politely when it came off the output shaft and surprised me a little.

 

 

OMGHGF HELP AAAARRRGGGHHH ya fecking durty ooyah HELP  etc etc.

[mouseflakes]

Still looking Pillock?

 

This looks nice and un-messed with - not expensive - yet. Quite a way from you though.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-Jeep-SJ410VX-Four-Wheel-drive-/191102267646?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c7e9530fe

 

[Pillock]

Ta! I'll keep my beady eye on that, looks cracking. Passed up on a Forester last night for 500 due to conflicting reports of how much they are to insure

[Luckythirteen]

If you weren't in a hurry, how about getting in touch with your local 4x4 club? They travel in packs and always know where something's maybe for sale. If you can live with the 'barn find' tag...

I will confirm the little Suzukis as being immense fun. Even a noob can have fun up in the woods with one, if it's got chunky tyres on.

[Bobthebeard]

I will confirm the little Suzukis as being immense fun. Even a noob can have fun up in the woods with one, if it's got chunky tyres on.

+1 on this!

Back in the 90's and as a total nooby I did several 'off roading' RTV public trials events and similar stuff. Had two SJ410 Suzukis over a few years and they were almost unstoppable in the clag, never broke and always got me home afterwards. Chunky Colway remould tyres being fitted to both of them.

 

Edit. I came in at 4th position IIRC, on the first event I had ever attended, pissing off a few regulars in larger 4x4s.

[Sigmund Fraud]

Some of the Yank stuff posted is too tall, wide and long. 

 

Not much use to Pillock, but has anyone on here had an XJ Cherokee ?

 

I've never had a 4x4 or a Yank car before, and I've recently been thinking of Cherokees as an excellent way to fill those gaps on my curriculum shitae !

 

Are they as bad as their bargain basement prices would suggest ? Do they rust like a 70s Alfa at a seaside resort ? Is the running gear as reliable as a diesel automatic Laguna II ? I NEEDZ INPUT !

[mouseflakes]

Maybe too large, and a long time for the listing to run, so price might climb.

 

Nice though (Lukas would approve?)....

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1987-Shogun-MK1-swb-diesel-manual-4x4-very-low-miles/121299681835

 

[Bobthebeard]

Not much use to Pillock, but has anyone on here had an XJ Cherokee ?

 

I've never had a 4x4 or a Yank car before, and I've recently been thinking of Cherokees as an excellent way to fill those gaps on my curriculum shitae !

 

Are they as bad as their bargain basement prices would suggest ? Do they rust like a 70s Alfa at a seaside resort ? Is the running gear as reliable as a diesel automatic Laguna II ? I NEEDZ INPUT !

I have never owned a Cherokee, so they are probably fantastic! Any make or model of car I have owned/bought tends to become worthless or unreliable within days. If you buy one before I do it will last for 20 years and never break! If I buy one first then don't even consider it.

[brickwall]

I saw one of those Tarpan Honker things a while back. It had Croat plates iirc.

 

[Barry Cade]

I had a Grand Cherokee Laredo TD... And no I'm not going to tell any tales of woe of the 4 headed monster VM Motori rattler. It was a fantastic vehicle, comfortable, economical, refined and just excellent. I also had a Mk1 Shogun which was also good, but the chassis SNAPPED clean in two, just behind the steering box...on a roundabout. Tricky repair that was!

 

SJ Zooks are brilliant, but after a time I thought I was invincible in mine..ended up in a drainage ditch at 45 degrees miles from anywhere, and upon finding a friendly farmer to pull me out in his massive Massey Ferguson 4wd super traktor, he also got stuck...as did his neighbour farmer in his Deutz. I never dared go off roading in that area again. Took me 3 days with a hand winch and 2 mates to get it out and home.

[eddyramrod]

Not much use to Pillock, but has anyone on here had an XJ Cherokee ?

 

I NEEDZ INPUT !

 

I was looking at a Cherokee some time ago and started a thread about it, which may still be accessible.  I'll have a look in a minute and edit the link in, if so.  The one I was looking at was a 4.0 petrol S6 auto, RHD.  It had quite enough power and was nice and smooth, as I expected after several assorted Yanks.  However it felt a little cramped inside.  Someone compared it to a mk3 Escort estate, which is probably right for interior space.  They do have a bit of a reputation for rust though (petrol tank and rear floor). 

If it's something you like the look of, I say go for it.

 

Edit: here it is... http://autoshite.com/topic/12783-jeep-cherokee/