Six Cylinder is out of control!

[Six-cylinder]

It's happened again, this time a 1967 Triumph Spitfire MkIII with a 2.5 Ltr engine and period mods. Last on the road two years ago with very little rust, the engine is free and I bought it. The last owner parked it up and says there was not much wrong with it, I just lost interest. My wife says we will soon have that MOT’d and running again, famous last words!

 

Not a story of boats, planes and trains but my friend Derek went to a car boot sale last weekend where he had met the chap who wanted to sell the car. I am flat out at work at the moment, so the last things I needed were interruptions as I had already decided I would have to work this weekend. First I spent Monday collecting by new MG ZT-T and showing it off, then Thursday I had to tow a friend’s car to a garage as his 2005 Citroen C8 Hdi had snapped a cambelt and then Derek asked if I wanted to look at a Spitfire with him? No I did not have time was my first reaction, but curiosity got the better of me and I called him back to say Sat afternoon. It was 80 + miles away so an economical car to view seemed a good idea but knowing how difficult it was going to be to go again we took my tow car and Derek’s trailer. The idea was going to be joint ownership with Derek but he lost interest when he saw it, so it was down to me!

 

[garethj]

That looks quite sweet, slotmags are for winners. It's the sort of car that was always parked outside the local car spares shop in the '70s so I reckon that'll be great when it's running.

 

What does it need?

[Six-cylinder]

That looks quite sweet, slotmags are for winners. It's the sort of car that was always parked outside the local car spares shop in the '70s so I reckon that'll be great when it's running.

 

What does it need?

There is not much rust, the engine if free and the last owner says there was nothing wrong with it when he parked it up two years ago. Some brakes are a bit sticky and really it needs a respray and retrim but to get it running and even MOT’d, not a lot!

[ruffgeezer]

Git! That is lovely.

 

This however

2005 Citroen C8 Hdi had snapped a cambelt

 

Will be almost certainly scrap, we've done a couple of them now and there wasn't much change out of £1500!

[Six-cylinder]

Git! That is lovely.

 

This however

2005 Citroen C8 Hdi had snapped a cambelt

 

Will be almost certainly scrap, we've done a couple of them now and there wasn't much change out of £1500!

It is a 2005 with just 62k, the recommended change is 10 years 100k. It is in the Citroen dealer is Aylesbury where they are trying to get a warrantee claim on it for my freind. It seems it is a common fault and the dealership have repaired a number under warrantee in the past.

[Richard]

This however

2005 Citroen C8 Hdi had snapped a cambelt

 

Will be almost certainly scrap, we've done a couple of them now and there wasn't much change out of £1500!

 

 

Really? I thought the HDi just snapped rockers.

 

This is my friend's one after he replaced the rockers.

 

 

And this is it after I timed it for him and he replaced the rockers again.

 

 

The horrible noise is the cameraphone effect.

[retrogeezer]

always preferred the Spitfire to the MG and that looks sweet as. Good work.

[Station]

Spitfire looks lovely, can't believe it was designed by what were basically engineers.

[dollywobbler]

Spitfire looks lovely, can't believe it was designed by what were basically engineers.

 

Eh? It was designed by an Italian designer. That'll be fun when finished, and possibly slightly lethal! Does it have any rear suspension mods?

[dieselnutjob]

This however

2005 Citroen C8 Hdi had snapped a cambelt

 

Will be almost certainly scrap, we've done a couple of them now and there wasn't much change out of £1500!

 

 

Really? I thought the HDi just snapped rockers.

 

This is my friend's one after he replaced the rockers.

 

 

And this is it after I timed it for him and he replaced the rockers again.

 

 

The horrible noise is the cameraphone effect.

 

8V will normally just break some rockers

16V will bend valves

to fit new valves you need the head off

to get the head bolts off you have to get the inlet manifold off

to get the manifold off you have to get the injectors out

if the injectors are stuck (and often they are) they you are stuffed

 

This happened on a colleagues C8 last summer and after a lot of arguing and the car off the road for months Citroen repaired it at their cost in the end.

 

There was a design fault with C8s that rain water would drip from a gutter onto the time belt area.

This would

a: freeze solid inside timing belt cover causing the belt to break

b: cause corrosion of things inside the cover causing the belt to break

 

Citroen actually published a "fix" which is a tray that goes over that part of the engine to stop water getting in there. This is a bit of an admission of fault in itself, and then you need to write letters with the right words like "fit for purpose" or "merchantable quality" or whatever.

 

My 607 has the 16V HDI which also broke it's belt at 55000 miles for no apparent reason. Luckily (for the previous owner) the injectors were not stuck. I have started dribbling oil down the sides of the injectors at every service just in case.

[Six-cylinder]

News on the Citroen C8, it has been repaired, new values, rockers, injectors etc FOC by Citroen but they are not offering any warrantee on the repair.

[Lankytim]

No warrentee? Sounds like they don't have much confidence in the repair job!

[Pillock]

Well no, because if there's a design fault then it's going to happen again! They'll have moved on from this engine so not interested in developing fixed parts, it's cheaper to do a free repair for those who shout loudest and ignore the rest.

[dieselnutjob]

you just need the piece of plastic that stops rain water dripping onto the timing belt cover. Then the design fault is fixed.

[sporty-shite]

No warrentee? Sounds like they don't have much confidence in the repair job!

 

Last time I had this discussion (about 2003 IIRC) I was informed from a reputable source that consumer law stated that a warranty does not have to be given for repairs carried out under warranty.