Anyone a Dinky expert on here?

[Guest]

It's highly unlikely that it is original? Aaargh.

 

No no no it's highly unlikely it's been faffed about with.

 

Sorry if I confused you, lol.

 

LOLZ

[Guest]

You have a PM.

 

Brian.

 

Replied!

[Formula Autos]

Are you sure this guy's trying to get a refund on the actual model you sold him Wat? It couldn't be another one could it? - and he happens to have bought a genuine one off you as well? I would check it carefully against your photos before parting with the readies if you decide you might be refunding him.

 

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of this guy having carried out a ham-fisted resto himself, then buying the genuine article off you and trying to leave you with the problem of the 'moody' model.

 

I'm also surprised that, if it was a fake, it's been done badly. I've restored a few (and some '70s Corgis) a few years ago for a local antique dealer, mostly with easy to get hold of bits from Steve Flowers or parts from wrecked models. They looked like new when I was done with them, but me and the dealer were always at pains to point out they had been restored. I even took to engraving a little message declaring this into the base before I resprayed them, after I'd got a few of these restos under my belt. They're not difficult to restore well if you're methodical about it. I even got two commissions from owners who wanted a Corgi Marina Coupe and a Dinky TR7 sprayed in the colour of their actual car, which earned me a few bob.

[quicksilver]

If that is a repaint it's very well done and looks like factory spec. The fact that you've described it as playworn doesn't tie in with the theory either - why would someone spend the time and effort repainting it and then let it be played with?

Don't suppose you have any photos of the base as that would be the giveaway? It's impossible to dismantle these things without drilling out the rivets and if was repainted without dismantling overspray would be unavoidable. Wouldn't surprise me if the buyer is trying to pull a fast one, some of these collectors can be an unscrupulous bunch who'll stop at nothing to obtain that 'perfect' model.

[Guest]

If that is a repaint it's very well done and looks like factory spec. The fact that you've described it as playworn doesn't tie in with the theory either - why would someone spend the time and effort repainting it and then let it be played with?

Don't suppose you have any photos of the base as that would be the giveaway? It's impossible to dismantle these things without drilling out the rivets and if was repainted without dismantling overspray would be unavoidable. Wouldn't surprise me if the buyer is trying to pull a fast one, some of these collectors can be an unscrupulous bunch who'll stop at nothing to obtain that 'perfect' model.

 

Sorry for the massive photo.

 

[Felly Magic]

It will be 'interesting' to see what state the model comes back in, because I'm 99.9% certain that is a factory genuine paintjob. The only thing possibly non original could be the tyres, but that can be expected as this is a 50 year old toy (at least).

 

I had a rather nasty ebay experience a while back, with a non payer. When payment reminders were sent, sweary replies were sent. It turned out said person had done the same to at least half a dozen people, and owed us sellers around £500. It turned out that this 'buyer' was a young kid in Thetford. Managed to re-list the items, but they didn't go for as much. All items were diecast models & railway items.

 

Have you checked the buyers feedback btw?

[rml2345]

I'm with Felly and Mike... That looks factory to me too.

Speaking as one, collectors can be a right bunch of mentals

[Partridge]

OK, going a bit off track here, but these are some defects on my some of my Vanguards. I went over my collection with a fine tooth comb and was surprised at how many faults I could find. But all these pictures are of defects which the models came with out of the box with.

 

 

Capri with the bumper glued on upside down

 

 

Look at the state of the left light and the angle of the spoiler...again, it came out of the box like this.

 

 

Spasticated number plate on a Princess.

 

 

“Curbed†alloys on a 75

 

 

There are more silly little faults but if I tried to post them all I’d be here all bloody day!

[quicksilver]

That photo of the base is enough to convince me. The rivets look factory-fresh and undisturbed and the cream paint goes all the way onto the inside so there's no way that has been apart. I've painted more than a few models and I doubt anyone could do the job to that standard without taking the thing to pieces.

[Junkman]

That photo of the base is enough to convince me. The rivets look factory-fresh and undisturbed and the cream paint goes all the way onto the inside so there's no way that has been apart. I've painted more than a few models and I doubt anyone could do the job to that standard without taking the thing to pieces.

 

^^

That.

[Danblez]

There is no way that has been tampered with. I would be tempted to tell him you have very detailed photos of the entire

model and if he trying to pull a swiftly, do one now.

[Felly Magic]

And add to it that the photos have been seen and 'authenticated' by 2 dealers. I do feel for you mate. It's because of jokers like them that I've stopped using ebay.

[andrew1963]

And add to it that the photos have been seen and 'authenticated' by 2 dealers. I do feel for you mate. It's because of jokers like them that I've stopped using ebay.

 

Yep....wouldn't buy from there unless some shite for restoring. Buy it now prices are often feckin bonkers....

[Guest]

I'm not going to get the same model back, am I?

 

In the same way he's not going to get his money back if he pulls something.

 

That said, I do have his address, and he's less than an hour's drive away should he feel like trying it. I don't think it's in his interest to fuck me around but it sounds like he might be thinking of trying something. Unfortunately, he could make up any old shit to eBay and they'd take his side over mine. It's my word against his, and eBay want the repeat business.

 

He said it would be in the post first thing this morning, so if it turns up - happy days. I've already sold it again to someone else, so I haven't lost out provided this cumsponge actually returns the fucking thing and doesn't feel like maiming my feedback in the process.

[Felly Magic]

Fingers crossed for you buddy.

[Junkman]

How do you guys see this?

 

I find Ebay just turned into a mecca for total deadfucks and a legal minefield to boot.

Lately, pretty much every listing I posted turned into a vexation.

 

- 30 year old toy shite someone was looking for for the past decade or two not arriving on his doorstep the morning after he won the auction, and you are up shit creek.

- An unrestored 70s racing bike threw a crank arm days after I had sold it via Ebay. The buyer was convinced he is entitled to a full restoration financed by me.

- The questions I received when I listed an almost pristine Lada Riva Estate with 12 Months MOT were simply beyond anything remotely believable, so I don't post them here.

- If you think that Dinky Horsebox buyer is a geezer, you haven't listed old railway stuff yet.

 

Who the bloody hell left the asylum door unlocked?

[Felly Magic]

Bang on. I now hate ebay with a passion. It's OK to buy, but to sell.....I once listed a model bus on ebay. Winner didn't contact me, sent a reminder 10 days later, still no reply. So 2nd chanced it, and that buyer was pleased as punch. A further week went by and I got a snotty email from the 'winner' claiming they were on hols. I simply told em I tried to contact them, and told them they should have sent a simple email stating they were on hols and there wouldn't have been an issue.

 

I have on the other hand sold a load of 1/76 cars, and I actually had a repeat buyer as he was so happy with his first purchases, and asked me what else I had, so I sold him a few out of ebay. It pisses me off that ebay/paypal are the same firm, and they sting you twice.

 

I still have a fair few 1/76 to offload, but not sure how to get rid.

[Guest]

I now hate ebay with a passion. It's OK to buy, but to sell......

 

Listen, I'm no fan of eBay. It's a necessary evil.

 

I was badly burnt by a pair of Italian buyers when I had another account - which I subsequently closed because of eBay's piss poor customer service. I ended up being severely out of pocket when they claimed some stereo equipment hadn't turned up despite providing tracking details that proved they'd got as far as the bloke's local post office.

 

Buyer Protection immediately sided with my punter, took the money straight back out of my account and then got quasi legal with me when I tried to get the bank to block them from doing so. I really needed the cash at the time and I was fucking furious because they were, in my opinion, openly abetting thieves. I complained and complained and sent several extremely nasty letters to customer service for nought. I'd have been better off pissing in the wind. At the time I was so livid I closed my account only to re-open another two years or so later because I was after several CDs I just couldn't get anywhere else.

 

Fortunately, 99% of buyers and sellers I've encountered on eBay have been straight - occasionally a little slow to respond to messages or to pay, but otherwise decent. I've bought stuff from all over the world as well as three cars in the UK. That speaks volumes for the people who use it, but not eBay's customer service. They couldn't give a flying fuck anyway, at the end of the day they just want their listing and paypal fees and the protection programmes are skewed in favour of these.

[Bren]

Your model looks original. Like was posted earlier, make sure the buyer is'nt trying to return some old shite and get a refund.

 

I collect the odd dinky, but mainly matchbox 1-75's and corgi junior whizzwheels. However, I am struggling to justify paying the increasingly exorbitant prices for matchbox items - I saw on one model website somebody saying they will be the next big money return investment, however I collect them because they take me back to my childhood, and I also like the artwork on the boxes.However, I am finding myself being prices out of my hobby.

 

Buying mint boxed is becoming a minefield as there are so many good repros knocking about it is difficult to tell the genuine from faked, especially when buying over the net.Items like corgi juniors which are on blister packs are hard to fake and it is more trouble than it is worth to fake them anyway.

 

I like going to toyfairs as you can haggle and have some fun. Last week at Haydock Park I purchased the saint Volvo P1800, Roger Clarks' 3 litre capri, MK1 cortina estate, a rover 2000 TC with golden jacks (all vintage corgi items), and a dinky MK IV Zodiac and Sams car from Joe 90. The whole lot cost £34 after some bargaining - you could'nt do that on ebay. The only downside to going to toyfairs is that you will regularly find yourself stood next to a man who really could use a bath.

 

Like was stated earlier, ebay really is becoming a realm for penises.

[Guest]

CABBAGE UPDATE

 

Bloke has just messaged me saying he's sent it back to me via next day delivery. That's nice.

 

He's having the original model and postage costs back, that's all. I will be inspecting it very carefully indeed when it arrives. I've also noticed there's a 'report buyer' button on eBay......

[Micrashed]

I've also noticed there's a 'report buyer' button on eBay......

You do realise it does fuck all?

[Mr Lobster]

The report buyer button is not that much use although if he does return a different model then you can use it on those grounds. eBay only do something if a few sellers report the same buyer, then they will take [a little tiny bit of] notice.

 

As an aside, we do a lot of business on eBay and don't have any problem with 99% of buyers on Buy It Now. Occasionally we do auctions and these tend to attract a higher percentage of none payers.

 

Hopefully when Rakuten get fully into the UK market then eBay might be forced to up their game a bit. Both Amazon and Rakuten are trying to poach sellers from eBay at present.

[Guest]

The report buyer button is not that much use although if he does return a different model then you can use it on those grounds. eBay only do something if a few sellers report the same buyer, then they will take [a little tiny bit of] notice.

 

As an aside, we do a lot of business on eBay and don't have any problem with 99% of buyers on Buy It Now. Occasionally we do auctions and these tend to attract a higher percentage of none payers.

 

Hopefully when Rakuten get fully into the UK market then eBay might be forced to up their game a bit. Both Amazon and Rakuten are trying to poach sellers from eBay at present.

 

Here's hoping.

 

I rather suspected the red button was a paper tiger, but we'll see.

 

I've bought a couple of things from your shop M_LOBSTER - such as the grey 1:43 Minichamps Amazon that's a tiny replica of my car. Got me eyes on one of your Otto Citroens at the moment......

[Mr Lobster]

Drop me a PM or summat if you want one, a much better deal could probably be had than ebay price

[Guest]

DRIBBLING UPDATE

 

I got it back today. It's the same model. He sent it by special delivery and clearly has too much time on his hands. I sent him a message saying I'd be out all day today. Since then he's sent several messages asking where his refund is and that he tracked it to my address - and someone signed for it.

 

I dunno, mate - maybe I've been out, you know, like I said I'd be - doing coursework, going to work and being around people - I can't sit around counting the rivets on a fucking 50 year old toy horsebox.

 

I had a major assessment today and then went out to celebrate finishing said assessed module. I had better things to do and far more important things on my mind - such as a very important and stressful assignment.

 

Anyway, I've refunded him now. Hopefully that's the last of it.

[Felly Magic]

Glad you got it back OK. Shame this bloke has been such a tossbag!

[Mr_Bo11ox]

You should have made him wait a day or two, his blood pressure will be through the roof for a while and he'll probably die a week or so sooner than would otherwise have been the case.

[Guest]

You should have made him wait a day or two, his blood pressure will be through the roof for a while and he'll probably die a week or so sooner than would otherwise have been the case.

 

Yeah, sorry bol - my twat midiclorians have been temporarily weakened after sorting out THE RADIO ASSIGNMENT OF DOOM.

 

Long story short : I don't miss dealing with bands.

[Micrashed]

Yeah, sorry bol - my twat midiclorians have been temporarily weakened after sorting out THE RADIO ASSIGNMENT OF DOOM.

For my radio exam I had an hour and a half to build a superheterodyne receiver from scratch. You have my sympathies.

 

Thats why I went on to become a nurse.

[Guest]

Yeah, sorry bol - my twat midiclorians have been temporarily weakened after sorting out THE RADIO ASSIGNMENT OF DOOM.

For my radio exam I had an hour and a half to build a superheterodyne receiver from scratch. You have my sympathies.

 

Thats why I went on to become a nurse.

 

I have a first aid box and a folder full of correspondence telling bands to fuck off.

 

That's why I'm not a producer any more.

 

Also, Crewe.