Anyone a Dinky expert on here?

[Guest]

If you haven't read the GOM thread, a bloke paid just shy of £40 for a Dinky horsebox only to message me saying it's been badly resprayed in a different livery and isn't the model he paid for. He calmed down after the initial exchange and is sending it back to me on Monday for a full refund.

 

I bought the horsebox (and many other Dinky, Corgi and Spot - On models) as a job lot, and had no idea it had been mucked around with. The buyer says the rivets have been off and there's overspray all over the casting with the original maroon paint job coming through. When he stopped implying I was trying to pass things off as something they weren't and trying to convince me how serious a collector he was, the arrangements were made and I should get it back on Tuesday or thereabouts. Provided I get it back in the same condition in which it was sent, I'll give him a refund. I'm gutted because the final sale price of £37.80 was a cracking result and sorely needed at the moment.

 

I don't remember seeing any paint or overspray on the casting - so if it has been resprayed it was done pretty well (or at least to my eyes it was). Is there anyone who can give me a definitive opinion on it if I paid for postage? I'm not saying this bloke's a liar (his feedback is near-perfect), but I feel like a bit of a tit and I'm not fully convinced he's right - part of me thinks he's a purist who's over reacted and seen a smudge of paint as a conspiracy. I've looked at the shots I took and it doesn't seem as if it's been apart.

 

I'm asking mainly because they seem to fetch decent money on eBay - but if this one has been bodged in the past I might as well keep it because I can't be arsed with collectors whining that it isn't right if I can't prove it. When \ if it comes back I'll probably just stick it back on the shelf.

[Mr Lobster]

Don't know the first thing about Dinky sadly and the only chap I did know who might have known has died sadly.

 

I feel your pain though. It's fortunately not a common event but we sometimes get models direct from manufacturers with faults so small you cannot see them just with the naked eye.

 

Got a fuckton of abuse of a chap because we had sent him a faulty model and why hadn't we noticed it. Despite the fact that he only noticed the very tiny paint flaw when he decided to go all macro photography on its ass. Similarly a 1/43 F1 car with a tiny flaw on a decal on the drivers helmet which you needed to A) know exactly what all the decals on that particular helmet should be and have eyes better than a hawk.

 

TBH I'd bang it back on eBay with an honest description saying you don't know the history of it or if its been repainted or been apart and see how it goes.

[Felly Magic]

There are shedloads of 'restored' Dinkys out there, and repro boxes and replacement glue on rivet heads are also easy to find. Take a few photos of it and I will have a butchers. I used to flog diecasts and old toys for a living, so may be able to shed some light on it for you

[Guest]

There are shedloads of 'restored' Dinkys out there, and repro boxes and replacement glue on rivet heads are also easy to find. Take a few photos of it and I will have a butchers. I used to flog diecasts and old toys for a living, so may be able to shed some light on it for you

 

Sweet, thank you I'll have to send you the eBay shots for the moment as that's all I have. It hasn't come back to me yet, but I do have a record of what it looked like in case he fancies taking some parts off it for free.

 

Photos by PM OK?

[DSdriver]

It sounds like he got a bargain anyway, I sold a grey and cream one a couple of years ago for over £60.00

[Guest]

It sounds like he got a bargain anyway, I sold a grey and cream one a couple of years ago for over £60.00

 

Christ. You know what some fucking collectors are like. I think he's wrong personally, but we'll have to see.

It has to be 'an original model', not something that's been resprayed (which I don't think it has) - and he's convinced the rivets are mangled and that someone's repainted it.

 

I can't relist it now anyway because if I do he'll come out of the woodwork and start screaming that it's been resprayed.

It's no mither to keep it - I could have done with that £40 to be honest.

[Felly Magic]

Be very careful, as some so called collectors sometimes buy better examples that what they have in their collection, then have a rant & rave, and try and dump their shit one back on the seller. I often encountered 'rivet counting twunts' when I used to to toyfairs, and sometimes I really had to hold back as I would feel like punching them, and quite rightly as Mr Lobster says, they will get out the magnifying glass over piffling little 'marks'

[rml2345]

Not only that, but Dinky were never absolute masters of quality, so the odd blob can be expected. £40 for a tidy Maudslay horse box is pretty bargainous anyway...

Verdict; Grumpy twat.

[MikeKnight]

I used to auction Dinky's (including a mint, and I mean MINT, collection worth £40k) so I like to think I know a little about them. I've also sold a lot of them on eBay and elsewhere and still dabble in them even though I don't work for the auction house any more.

 

Collectors are very, very, picky and can be a bit of an odd bunch especially when it comes to diecast vehicles.

 

If you don't list something exactly right, they will always ask for a refund. They're harder to please than a footballers WAG.

[Guest]

If you don't mind Felly and MikeKnight, you OK with me sending you some pictures?

[Felly Magic]

No problem. This bloke sounds like a twunt tbh

[Junkman]

Can you please post a pic? I just happen to know a thing or two about old Dinkys.

If in doubt, you should contact these guys:

 

http://www.diecastrestoration.redfirecracker.co.uk

[Albert Ross]

Fuck me, and I thought trainspotters were a set of frothing twats. These were designed as toys, not fucking museum pieces. If he's that fucking twitchy about replacing a toy he had 60 years ago, he should have looked after the original. I bet he sits there rubbing his bollocks whilst perusing eBay pics of Matchbox catalogues. Knobber.

[Guest]

Can you please post a pic? I just happen to know a thing or two about old Dinkys.

If in doubt, you should contact these guys:

 

http://www.diecastrestoration.redfirecracker.co.uk

 

Photos on their way via PM. Having a bit of a shocker at work this morning. Please bear with.

 

Well,it looked ok to me and the livery was correct,so i had a bid on it but got sniped.

 

Brian.

 

Didn't know you had bid on it! Original auction is here:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110979322104?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1562.l2649

[Cheggers]

Jon,

 

Whether it's been tampered with or not, the pics in the ad are perfectly clear enough to represent the model "as-is". If it was as bad as he's making it out to be, you'd see from the eBay pics. It's as described and as pictured, so "caveat emptor", or to use the literal translation, piss off & get a life

[Guest]

Jon,

 

Whether it's been tampered with or not, the pics in the ad are perfectly clear enough to represent the model "as-is". If it was as bad as he's making it out to be, you'd see from the eBay pics. It's as described and as pictured, so "caveat emptor", or to use the literal translation, piss off & get a life

 

:D

[Guest]

One of the messages from the buyer.

 

hi there i recived the dinky horsebox today fast post thanks. but unfortunatly i am not happy with the model as it is a repaint of the uk version as all the rivets have been of and there is maroon paint still visible inside and there is lots of yellow overspray over. it has been done quite a whilst ago but if i had known i would not have brough it as i only have originals. i always contact the sellers first in these cases so they can sort the problem out

 

Hopefully I'll get it back. Heigh ho.

[Cheggers]

One of the messages from the buyer.

 

hi there i recived the dinky horsebox today fast post thanks. but unfortunatly i am not happy with the model as it is a repaint of the uk version as all the rivets have been of and there is maroon paint still visible inside and there is lots of yellow overspray over. it has been done quite a whilst ago but if i had known i would not have brough it as i only have originals. i always contact the sellers first in these cases so they can sort the problem out

 

Hopefully I'll get it back. Heigh ho.

 

Tell him you're a Jiffy Bag enthusiast, and will only accept it back in the original envelope in the same condition as when you dispatched it

[Guest]

One of the messages from the buyer.

 

hi there i recived the dinky horsebox today fast post thanks. but unfortunatly i am not happy with the model as it is a repaint of the uk version as all the rivets have been of and there is maroon paint still visible inside and there is lots of yellow overspray over. it has been done quite a whilst ago but if i had known i would not have brough it as i only have originals. i always contact the sellers first in these cases so they can sort the problem out

 

Hopefully I'll get it back. Heigh ho.

 

Tell him you're a Jiffy Bag enthusiast, and will only accept it back in the original envelope in the same condition as when you dispatched it

 

I only buy originals and all of the seams have been of and there is air visible between the crack of my arsehole and the ongoing despair of dealing with enthusiasts that I thought died out a whilst ago (sic).

[morris_ital_lover]

Fuck me, and I thought trainspotters were a set of frothing twats. These were designed as toys, not fucking museum pieces. If he's that fucking twitchy about replacing a toy he had 60 years ago, he should have looked after the original. I bet he sits there rubbing his bollocks whilst perusing eBay pics of Matchbox catalogues. Knobber.

 

Collectors can be a strange bunch... one guy I sold something to wanted pictures of every single part from an airfix model, a list of which ones weren't on their sprues, a full breakdown of every scratch, blemish or little mark on the box... it came to around 30 photos of this model! In fairness to the guy, he coughed up the equivalent of my weeks wages back then for it and in general I have found that once you gain the trust of a collector they'll always be back for more when its available.

[Guest]

Fuck me, and I thought trainspotters were a set of frothing twats. These were designed as toys, not fucking museum pieces. If he's that fucking twitchy about replacing a toy he had 60 years ago, he should have looked after the original. I bet he sits there rubbing his bollocks whilst perusing eBay pics of Matchbox catalogues. Knobber.

 

Collectors can be a strange bunch... one guy I sold something to wanted pictures of every single part from an airfix model, a list of which ones weren't on their sprues, a full breakdown of every scratch, blemish or little mark on the box... it came to around 30 photos of this model! In fairness to the guy, he coughed up the equivalent of my weeks wages back then for it and in general I have found that once you gain the trust of a collector they'll always be back for more when its available.

 

True.

 

Fuck knows how I'm going to relist it though.

[Guest]

Tell him to learn to spell properly and as a spelling pedant his intercourse with you offends and you will not enter into further correspondence until he can master the english language.

Oh and return his dispatches with the spelling corrected.

That'll out train spotter the fucker.

[MikeKnight]

Thanks for the pictures.

 

It is not a repaint, they are all this colour.

 

It is a play worn original worth between £35 - £40 estimated.

 

There would be no reason for anyone to tamper with the rivets.

[Guest]

Thanks for the pictures.

 

It is not a repaint, they are all this colour.

 

It is a play worn original worth between £35 - £40 estimated.

 

There would be no reason for anyone to tamper with the rivets.

 

So in your opinion, it's unsullied and original? I might fire that back at the silly quim.

[Partridge]

Sounds like he’s making a Phaeton out of a Polo. For starters, as other people pointed out it’s not perfect as is plain to see in the pictures.

Now I’ve bought Vanguards quite recently and had laughable defects (maybe I’ll put some pictures up if I get a chance so you can see what I mean) including a Capri with its bumper glued on upside down and a Landcrab with a wonky number plate. I just imagined that the owner backed into a low wall or something on the Austin

Now these models are new and that Dinky is what, 40 plus years old? It’s hardly going to be made with more precision is it..

[Guest]

This is making me feel better about the whole affair. Cheers chaps.

[MikeKnight]

So in your opinion, it's unsullied and original? I might fire that back at the silly quim.

 

It's difficult to tell 100% without holding it in my hands, but it's highly unlikely.

[Guest]

So in your opinion, it's unsullied and original? I might fire that back at the silly quim.

 

It's difficult to tell 100% without holding it in my hands, but it's highly unlikely.

 

It's highly unlikely that it is original? Aaargh.

[Cavcraft]

I always like to think retribution is best in these cases. next time he sells something on there let us know and one of our number can buy it then complain. I have no problem sticking Bichon Frise defecations into a miniature box of cornflakes, sticking matches in it then saying it was the wrong colour and sending it back with a cover note perhaps suggesting someone had tampered with it's stools and that you could definitely smell cat shit in there.

[MikeKnight]

It's highly unlikely that it is original? Aaargh.

 

No no no it's highly unlikely it's been faffed about with.

 

Sorry if I confused you, lol.