Train shite

[pompei]

Yep, Mrs P, the infant & I will be there early doors on Saturday

[pbottomley]

Would you expect any less from me?

 

 

 

[pbottomley]

Would you expect any less from me?

 

 

 

[willswitchengage]

Why the British motor industry phailed, part 93:

 

1. Cars made in CKD form in Coventry then put into shipping containers.

 

 

2. Containers shipped to Glasgow then assembled into shiny new cars.

 

 

3. Cars shipped back to middle-England for sale to the public.

 

[willswitchengage]

Why the British motor industry phailed, part 93:

 

1. Cars made in CKD form in Coventry then put into shipping containers.

 

 

2. Containers shipped to Glasgow then assembled into shiny new cars.

 

 

3. Cars shipped back to middle-England for sale to the public.

 

[Richard]

Here is some train shite I saw at the Midland Railway Centre last weekend.

 

This was at Swanwick Junction...

 

 

Now at Whitrope Siding near Hawick.

 

DSC_0792 by RichardB5, on Flickr

[Split_Pin]

 

I have a railway line right at the back of me and there must either be some rail inspection going on or there's a nuclear train now scheduled as one of these growls past at about 1.25 am every morning. I am probably the only one in my street who totally enjoys being woken up by it!

[idiotboy]

Have they even made a start on the Metrovick yet? They seem to have been on with that restoration forever.[/quote

 

Yes they have, certainly it's off it's bogies but I think the project will start to make real progress when the class15 is finished whenever that'll be the case I'm not sure.

 

Yes it was the restore of the Class 14 Teddy bear that was holding things up. The Co-bo is now off its bogies and the Bo bogie is currently being stripped. I think the Traction motors need to be refurbed. Its all well overdue. To be honest the restore of the Co-Bo and the 15 are more historically important than yet another 47 or 37 being saved, and I can't wait to hear that V8 two stroke crossley fire up .

 

What's also a bit of a pisser is the setbacks suffered by the Baby deltic project, as Harry Needle swiped back the Class 20 bogies that were due to be used. Pity but we need another scrap class 20 to make the project live again.

[Albert Ross]

A Chopper recently died on the Wensleydale didn't it? To be broken up IIRC.

 

http://www.blackhatrailwaypictures.co.uk/p403838415

[willswitchengage]

There's a BBC4 documentary at 9 tonight called "The age of the Train" about the IC125 apparently. Perhaps somebody could review it for me for when Virgin Media inevitably won't let me use iPlayer?

[Richard]

Sounds good, I'll catch that on iPlayer when I inevitably forget to watch it.

 

Now that the thread has found its way back to the front page I'll take the opportunity to post a shite train video I took at the weekend http://www.flickr.com/photos/30854514@N08/7965456390/

[Wilko220]

This may be of interest to some:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23137106

[willswitchengage]

Never really liked British locos, they always looked just too romantic. America did it better, with the correct "bigger is better" philosophy:

 

 

Pretty sure Big Boy is still the biggest and most powerful loco ever made. Would be nice if the NRM could get hold of one one day.

 

Vauxhall USA even did electric trains properly:

 

[Junkman]

Pretty sure Big Boy is still the biggest and most powerful STEAM loco ever made.

 

EFC.

[willswitchengage]

EFC.

 

 

No need. It's at least twice the mass of the largest comparable US diesels and had a greater tractive effort than any big powerful modern electric.

[Junkman]

No need. It's at least twice the mass of the largest comparable US diesels and had a greater tractive effort than any big powerful modern electric.

 

I was wrong anyway. The Big Boys weren't even the most powerful steam engines. That goes to the Q2 of the Pennsylvania Railroad.

The loco with the biggest tractive effort is the Swiss Ae 8/14, which is soon going to be surpassed in this respect by the locos Siemens is currently building for the Chinese railways.

[willswitchengage]

You must be so fun at pub quizzes, and life

[CreepingJesus]

So when the Siemens locos take to the rails in China (assuming they've remembered to get them certified, etc), and they don't get very far before breaking down; will there be Chinese train-shiters cursing shitty European build quality?

[Albert Ross]

Britain used to build steamers to send to China.

[Vin]

THREAD REZZURECTION.

 

Trainshite on the telly tonight - 'Timeshift' BBC4 9PM   http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b053pxdr

 

"Timeshift revisits Britain's railways during the era of nationalisation. For all its bad reputation today, the old British Rail boldly transformed a decayed, war-torn Victorian transport network into a system fit for the 20th century. With an eye firmly on the future, steam made way for diesel and electric, new modern stations like Euston were built, and Britain's first high-speed trains introduced.

Made with unique access to the British Transport Films archive, this is a warm corrective to the myth of the bad old days of rail, but even it can't hide from the horror that was a British Rail sandwich."

 

BTF films are ace.

 

[Pillock]

Great heads-up, thanks!

Sky reckons it's early morning however

[Pillock]

Ignore me as usual, different programme on the same channel on the same subject.

[MarvinsMom]

the 37's were the ones that as a kid were always around when gnowing up, taking either steel upto skiningrove, and potash and salt from boulby. and we sometimes got 40's on engineering trains.

 

come to around 1987-88 we lost them and got pairs of 20's coupled bonnet to bonnet, and then 1990-91 we got the improved 37-5 back.

 

since then we had 60's, a few 56's and now 66's, but for me not one of them can hold a candle to the class 37-english electric type 3. prehaps of course its a deltic.... 

[oman5]

^ I'm with you on the 37s. There's still a few knocking about now, they are just so damn useful it pays to keep them available, to the extent that some heritage lines have even sold their 37s back to operators for restoring and return to mainline use.

[oman5]

Never really liked British locos, they always looked just too romantic. America did it better, with the correct "bigger is better" philosophy:

 

 

Pretty sure Big Boy is still the biggest and most powerful loco ever made. Would be nice if the NRM could get hold of one]

Union Pacific has actually got hold of a big boy, dormant since the early '60s, and is restoring it to put it back in steam. About bloody time!

[MarvinsMom]

along with FEF-3 #844 and challenger #3985, both of which are in running condition out at cheyanne

 

the FEF wasnt ever retired even though union pacific ended steam in 1958? though it was renumbered to 8444 in the 1970's. they have kept 835 for spares, even now 50 odd years later that locomotive is still pretty much complete.

 

the challenger is the same idea as a bigboy, not quiet as large been only 4-6+6-4's they were built to sprint across the  mid-western plains.

 

844-

 

3985-

[Pillock]

'Ey up, this programme on BBC4 is positively pornographic.

Class 37 hauling the APT test gear along the Old Dalby test track, and now they're onto the Class 252 gormless HST prototype.

[MarvinsMom]

i'm going to have to i-player it at the weekend (cos interweb here at the digs isnt upto video)

[Vin]

'Ey up, this programme on BBC4 is positively pornographic.

Class 37 hauling the APT test gear along the Old Dalby test track, and now they're onto the Class 252 gormless HST prototype.

 

Class 37...It was a 'Peak' surely...

[Inspector Morose]

along with FEF-3 #844 and challenger #3985, both of which are in running condition out at cheyanne

 

the FEF wasnt ever retired even though union pacific ended steam in 1958? though it was renumbered to 8444 in the 1970's. they have kept 835 for spares, even now 50 odd years later that locomotive is still pretty much complete.

 

the challenger is the same idea as a bigboy, not quiet as large been only 4-6+6-4's they were built to sprint across the  mid-western plains.

 

844-

 

3985-

Bloody kettles.