CMax diesel 1.6 WTF!! etc etc

[dollywobbler]

Makes a lot of sense Bol. The HDi in the Citroen DS3 has a service interval of 20,000 miles or two years. Even going to 10k intervals is still a lot better than most of the old chod we drive. The 2CV gets fresh oil every 3000 miles.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Makes a lot of sense Bol. The HDi in the Citroen DS3 has a service interval of 20,000 miles or two years. Even going to 10k intervals is still a lot better than most of the old chod we drive. The 2CV gets fresh oil every 3000 miles.

 

20k!!!! thats the barmy bit. Oil technology has no doubt improved enormously in the last 20 years, but so have the demands placed on the oil... i dont think its improved enough to withstand the greatly increased temperatures and pressures of a modern engine AND last 3 times as long as it did 20 years ago. Its still just engine oil innit!

[bigstraight6]

Makes a lot of sense Bol. The HDi in the Citroen DS3 has a service interval of 20,000 miles or two years. Even going to 10k intervals is still a lot better than most of the old chod we drive. The 2CV gets fresh oil every 3000 miles.

 

20k!!!! thats the barmy bit. Oil technology has no doubt improved enormously in the last 20 years, but so have the demands placed on the oil... i dont think its improved enough to withstand the greatly increased temperatures and pressures of a modern engine AND last 3 times as long as it did 20 years ago. Its still just engine oil innit!

 

Absolutely on the money Mr B, if I owned one of these very modern diesels I'd also be on an oil/filter change routine of 6000 miles or 6 months whichever is soonest. I've always followed this practice on my daily drivers, the Toyota Avensizzz diesel company hacks I've had for the past 8 years have service intervals of 10,000 miles, they start to sound like shagged out FX4's after a time, and I did have OMG Turbot failz on one of them!

[Father Ted]

Makes a lot of sense Bol. The HDi in the Citroen DS3 has a service interval of 20,000 miles or two years. Even going to 10k intervals is still a lot better than most of the old chod we drive. The 2CV gets fresh oil every 3000 miles.

 

20k!!!! thats the barmy bit. Oil technology has no doubt improved enormously in the last 20 years, but so have the demands placed on the oil... i dont think its improved enough to withstand the greatly increased temperatures and pressures of a modern engine AND last 3 times as long as it did 20 years ago. Its still just engine oil innit!

 

Absolutely on the money Mr B, if I owned one of these very modern diesels I'd also be on an oil/filter change routine of 6000 miles or 6 months whichever is soonest. I've always followed this practice on my daily drivers, the Toyota Avensizzz diesel company hacks I've had for the past 8 years have service intervals of 10,000 miles, they start to sound like shagged out FX4's after a time, and I did have OMG Turbot failz on one of them!

The wifes C8 (DW10ATED HDi) has the 20K/ 2 years service interval. I would be an utter nutter to even dream of letting the oil stay in that long. 6K and its dropped and changed. Am I being stupid doing that? I have no idea, but better a few extra quid on oil than a borked turbo and runaway engine.

[HillmanImp]

I bet the failure rate would go down by 75% if the oil change frequency was doubled.

 

Are you willing to have your crack and sack waxed and posted on YouTube if you are wrong?

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

So, looking at this from a shite angle 3-4 years down the line, would it be a good idea to buy a 6 year old 1.6 Hdi Mongdeo or whatever that's working well at the moment, then treating it to 6k oilchanges with religious regularity, or would every shitist in 2025 have to keep driving stuff from before 1997 in order to avoid having to get on nasty new car contract hires or blown turbos every couple of months?

[danthecapriman]

My 60 plate Sprinter (company owned) is on 20K or 1 year service interval. Its due now, on time. But its still done 15K on its original oil from new! If it was my own van id have done it a least twice by now.

 

I think the idea now, especially for fleet vehicles, is to stretch out servicing and repairs, purely for cost saving reasons. Most cars from fleet/lease companys get changed at three years old (my van is five years) so they do everything up to then as cheaply and as few times as they can get away with. Then the vehicle gets auctioned off and its someone elses problem! That way the damage done from lack of regular servicing is only felt a few years later when someone else has the vehicle.

 

I always do my own cars more often than the manufacturer recommends.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

Fair point, however it's worth noting that this 3-year malarkey isn't universal. It only seems to happen here due to the stupid taxation laws (asset depreciation). That's why BMW UK offer a 3 year warranty where BMW Norge will give you 5, and Mitsubishi Motors UK also offer 3 years while in Greece they used to do 10 years (just for the mechanicals, mind, and I think they cut down on it recently).