Pug 405 Dizzler. Fix or Frag?

[warren t claim]

As a couple of you already know my 405 estate has decided to blot its copybook by blowing the seal on its (Lucas) fuel pump. Nobody is stocking rebuild kits and it looks like the only option is a secondhand unit from the scrappy or Ebay. No local scrappies have a suitable replacement and an Ebay search can't find one for less than £130, which coincidentally is about all I'm receiving a fortnight from the DHSS... As I'm having to drive to and from Manchester and The Wirral I've had to purchase (courtesy of a family loan) the cheapest runabout I could find on Scumtree, more of what it is later, and dump the 405 at the Wirral unit. Whilst I was there earlier on today I was talking to one of the neighbours who made me an offer of £100 for the injectors, £20 for the battery and a possible £50 for the Meridian alloys. This would leave me with the rest of the car to send over the bridge at my leisure. Now bearing in mind the whole car only cost me £290 I wouldn't be making a loss on the deal but I'm loathed to weigh in a car with 9 months test that perfectly suited my needs and is in otherwise perfectly acceptable condition, notwithstanding the fact that our own MM5 sweated blood changing the front wheel bearing.

 

What the hell should I do???

[dollywobbler]

What sort of a job is it to convert one to Bosch and are those bits easier to find?

 

EDIT - that's a stupid question as veg lovers all want the Bosch stuff!

[Guest]

FUCK. I saw a Lucas pump go for £70 on eBay last night. ARRRRGH.

[hairnet]

http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... highlight=

[Guest]

One here for £100?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-306-1-9-Diesel-XUD9-Lucas-Fuel-Pump-28-Day-Warranty-/220885322517?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3APeugeot&hash=item336dca8b15#ht_655wt_952

[warren t claim]

The AUTOSHITE opinion is to fix it then?

[Cavcraft]

Give Keith a bell:

 

http://www.uniteddiesel.co.uk/contact-united-diesel.php

 

Great bloke, really friendly and very knowledgable. If he hasn't got a seal I bet he'd know where to find one.

[dollywobbler]

Has to be really. In terms of sheer economics, maybe it isn't the most sense, but then since when has owning old cars been purely about economics? We buy shite because no-one else wants it. Doesn't mean we don't want to look after it (thread reference to the servicing discussion).

[lancashireclamper]

To try and take an objective view (not easy I assure you) how does the Pug compare to the young pretender; ie, which do you prefer driving?

I got rid of an Avensis CDX last year because it needed a fair amount spending on it and bought a Ka as it was cheaper to buy than to repair the Toyota, as it turns out I hate the Ford, miss the Toyota and wish I'd spent a few bob keeping a car I really liked instead of going sensible and down sizing to an unlikeable shite heap that I'm stuck with.

Consider the comfort factor Warren, don't make your back injury any worse.

[Guest]

The AUTOSHITE opinion is to fix it then?

 

I would. It was a BOSS GR8 MOTOR to drive.

 

Until it shat its throttle bolt and pump gaskets. And I have it all on camera.

 

 

 

[dollywobbler]

I'm horribly disappointed. For a moment there, I thought Mark was smoking a pipe! I know he owned a Rover 75 for a bit...

[Guest]

I'm horribly disappointed. For a moment there, I thought Mark was smoking a pipe! I know he owned a Rover 75 for a bit...

 

?

 

[dollywobbler]

That's more like it! Makes much more sense than smoking a key...

 

Sorry for the thread drift...

[warren t claim]

Ok, so even though I have a chance to cut my losses on the 405 and even make a profit you think I should persevere with it?

[Guest]

Ok, so even though I have a chance to cut my losses on the 405 and even make a profit you think I should persevere with it?

 

How long do you think it will last you if the pump's repaired? With the pump sorted, you've got 9 months tax and however much MOT. The Merc needs taxing and it's a thirsty bastard. I'd break \ frag the Merc for some coin and find a pump - then get MM5 to fit it. Sure I've got a Peugeot 306 BOL round here which will explain the pump timing.........

[dollywobbler]

Ok, so even though I have a chance to cut my losses on the 405 and even make a profit you think I should persevere with it?

 

Ah, if you're after profit, the last thing you want to do is listen to anything I say! I've owned over 40 cars and have made a profit on two of them...

[warren t claim]

I love this debate! I take it no-one wants to know what the new shite is?

[jonathan_dyane]

Darwen Diesels should have the seal kit; I bought a kit from them a couple of years ago, £12 IIRC.

 

Is it the accelerator lever spindle leaking? If so its not a bad job.

[forddeliveryboy]

Hop onto the vegetableoildiesel.co.uk forum, you should get a Lucas no bother - probably for a tenner.

[Pete-M]

Just fix it. It's a 405 Dizzla. They're ok if you're not in any sort of hurry, and cheeeeeeeap to run.

[catsinthewelder]

I've got the correct Haynes book of lies for these. Happy to scan in the relevent pages if required.

 

I weighed in our 405 estate a few years ago and regretted it. The clutch had gone and we had another car ready to use. We will get another at some point (its what I was looking for when I ended up with the BX) and I've not owned the same model twice of anything.

[Minimad5]

FIX IT !

And whilst we are there we'll replace the timing belt.

[carlo]

I love this debate! I take it no-one wants to know what the new shite is?

 

Go on then, what is your temporary shite? It can't be as nice as a 405!

[warren t claim]

I love this debate! I take it no-one wants to know what the new shite is?

 

Go on then, what is your temporary shite? It can't be as nice as a 405!

 

I'll give you a clue. It's another, smaller, Peugeot.

[Guest]

I love this debate! I take it no-one wants to know what the new shite is?

 

Go on then, what is your temporary shite? It can't be as nice as a 405!

 

I'll give you a clue. It's another, smaller, Peugeot.

 

 

?

[warren t claim]

Nope!

 

 

It's almost one of these!

[Guest]

Nope!

 

 

It's almost one of these!

 

So it's a 1.5 diesel 106 full of drugged up Eastern European crumpet?

 

 

 

 

 

Sounds about right for one of your purchases.

[baldrickthecunning]

405 is definitely worth repairing. Shame, if it was a year older it would have had a bosch and never gone wrong in the first place.

[mattblack]

Seal is nothing special is it? An engineering supply place should be able to sort you out for pennies, I'd have thought.

[dollywobbler]

It's a 405 Dizzla. They're ok if you're not in any sort of hurry, and cheeeeeeeap to run.

 

 

Bloody hell. From you, that's a glowing reference considering it runs on the 'wrong' fuel!