Marston's High Court Enforcement Office & Certified Bailiffs

[M'coli]

Parking tickets and court fines don't normally show up on your credit report.

 

Yeah, Equifax shows me as clean. No surprise credit cards, mortgages, loans etc. I think this is just an opportunistic mail theif. I moved out, put a redirect on the mail and somehow something got through, someone took the chance. A mate with access to an insurance database tells me that the car is insured at that address as well. So whoever this is has also commited insurance fraud as well. Joy. Spoke to a policeman mate and he's advised me to get all the stuff in the previous post together, then bring it in to a police station, get a police number and report done. Then also let my insurer and the insurance industry association know. I'm also going to forward it to the facilities mgmt people at the old address. If by some weird change this guy is still there it'd be interesting to see what happens.

 

I'd also be making enquiries around the insurance companies too - you can even check the MID as the car is registered to you!

[jnoiles]

I'm pretty sure that neither the car nor the driver are above board. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that this car didn't have the same VIN that it left the factory with.

[morris_ital_lover]

I'm pretty sure that neither the car nor the driver are above board. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that this car didn't have the same VIN that it left the factory with.

 

What we could really do with is a picture of a land rover defender on some old tax emempt plates to post in these threads with RINGA in big letters across the bottom !

 

aAs for the merc, it would be more than likely that it is stolen, might be worth telling your police freind about it and seeing where he can take it from there if you haven;t already!

 

m0rris

[warren t claim]

Do you want to post details of what area you think the Mercedes might be in for an Autoshite A.P.B?

 

One of us must see it somewhere eventually.

[jnoiles]

Do you want to post details of what area you think the Mercedes might be in for an Autoshite A.P.B?

 

One of us must see it somewhere eventually.

 

The old address was in this development: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&sourc ... m&t=h&z=12

 

The parking notice that set in motion this comical chain of events was issued in Greenwich which is just the other side of the river from there.

 

I've expect to see this in Isle of Dogs or South London, towards Greenwich area. If anyone does see it I'd be interested to know where. I might even wander down there with a camera, see if I can see the thing in the car park. That's be a win. Take a picture of it for the file.

[Louise2cv]

Surely the thing to do is formally notify the cops, and then from there they'd notify the insuros (you'd imagine) and then it'd be marked on ANPR. Surely?

 

No need for sleuthing?

[autofive]

Surely the thing to do is formally notify the cops, and then from there they'd notify the insuros (you'd imagine) and then it'd be marked on ANPR. Surely?

 

No need for sleuthing?

 

do the police actually work like this?

 

im sure, in an ideal world, they would

but, the paper trail tends to stop with someones desk, and IMO the police in all areas are just too busy to do anything

[warren t claim]

Surely the thing to do is formally notify the cops, and then from there they'd notify the insuros (you'd imagine) and then it'd be marked on ANPR. Surely?

 

No need for sleuthing?

 

do the police actually work like this?

 

im sure, in an ideal world, they would

but, the paper trail tends to stop with someones desk, and IMO the police in all areas are just too busy to do anything

 

Alas the Police don't seem to be that hot at tracking this sort of offence. If you could find out who "you" were insured with you may be able to cancel "your" insurance policy but it wouldn't surprise me if you were the person who ended up with points on your licence.

 

You need to make sure you don't drive your nice new Mercedes into the back of a rented minibus.....

 

Stand by for a few calls from the police asking you to pay for the fuel you forgot to pay for as well.

[Louise2cv]

Maybe not. I'm just naïve.

 

I just find so many internet forums about cars are full of a sense of encouraging levels of vigilantism. Maybe I'm just missing the joke, but I sometimes find it uncomfortable to read about how "so and so would kneecap someone for overtaking on a blind bend etc".

 

I know in this thread the victim has mentioned going to the rozzers and nobody's really mentioned doing anything more than a bit of investigating, so I'm sorry for going off topic a bit, but it will be interesting to see what they can do.

 

I also have a faith in the police force because they haven't let me down as yet. I guess experience colours opinions and I can't knock anyone who feels they've been let down.

[autofive]

i wasnt having a dig at the politzi

 

just pointing out that we dont live in an ideal world

[Louise2cv]

Sorry I wasn't suggesting you were, just saying I see what you mean, but I tend to see the world through rose-tints!

 

The rest of the post was "in general"

 

Oh god I'm having a foot-mouth interface moment!

[Albert Ross]

Is it worth putting the boot on the other foot? Use the electoral register to find out exactly who it is, and apply for credit cards, porno mag subscriptions, Sky TV, Blockbuster membership, (Take it out in your CURRENT address, then very quickly change it to your OLD address, but never take them back), car finance, National Geographic, Reader's Digest, Christmas Clubs etc...? A certain Mr Rastus Odinga Odinga will wake up very surprised one morning. I wonder if he's a Nigerian illegal immigrant?

 

Maybe get a redirect on ALL his post to a Post box, and go through it all, steal his identity, and see how he fucking likes it?

[warren t claim]

Sorry I wasn't suggesting you were, just saying I see what you mean, but I tend to see the world through rose-tints!

 

The rest of the post was "in general"

 

Oh god I'm having a foot-mouth interface moment!

 

This is the sort of case that a Stolen Vehicle Unit should investigate but they probably won't as the car isn't reported as stolen.

 

Doubtless the ruffian driving it is also involved in all other sorts of criminality so he'd be worth investigating.

[Cavcraft]

Checking MID is a belting idea. If it's not insured and you do spot it being driven around anywhere then it's possibly be worth a call to the local police to say you've seen someone weaving all over the road and you think they're drunk. Even better if you can grab a picture of them behind the wheel.

[Lankytim]

I'd imagine an uninsured car driving round London will last approx 0 seconds before the cameras pick it up and vector in a Police Apache gunship.

[Guest Leonard Hatred]

http://stayinsured.askmid.com/hotspot.html

 

The Metropolitan police area is top of the uninsured hot-spots.

[alf892]

OK.........so they reckon some chancer registered this car in your name and at your address? So surely when you askDVLA to confirm that you have never owned the vehicle you have a problem..........some chancer has registered the thing in your name so as far as pen pushers are concerned you were in fact the registered keeper??

 

BTW.......I wouldn't debate the ircumstances with Marstons at all as it could be taken that you do have an interest.........just tell them it is disputed and to fook off.

[jnoiles]

OK.........so they reckon some chancer registered this car in your name and at your address? So surely when you askDVLA to confirm that you have never owned the vehicle you have a problem..........some chancer has registered the thing in your name so as far as pen pushers are concerned you were in fact the registered keeper??

 

BTW.......I wouldn't debate the ircumstances with Marstons at all as it could be taken that you do have an interest.........just tell them it is disputed and to fook off.

 

 

I don't have to go near Marstons. The call to the council sorted that one. They have called off the bailiffs. Now I need to fax my statement to the DVLA swearing that I've never owned this car and support that with evidence that I wasn't even living at the address when the car was registered. I've got the details of the lease ending, the details of the council tax being stopped because I notified them I was moving and the deposit protection scheme notice that I've vacated the premise and the landlord agrees its in fine condition and is therefore agreeing to the condition of the property and the return of the deposit. That should be enough to get the DVLA to agree that I've not owned the car and that it wasn't me.

 

From there I move on to the county courts with the DVLA stuff and they cancel the whole matter once I've filled in the appropriate forms and provided proof.

 

As an aside, I'm going to the police tomorrow with copies of all this information and reporting it. I don't just want the thing wiped from my name. I'd really like to see this nutter caught. I have every faith they'll pursue it. Especially as I've gone to the trouble of documenting all, filling in all the right forms, driving down to the local police station near where I used to live and mentioning that Greenwich council has actual photographic evidence of the idiot who got the parking fine in the car in question. And I guarantee he ain't me.

 

Of course the DVLA could always be awkward and deny that this means anything. In which case it turns into plan b. I apply for the V5, get some keys from a Merc dealer, go to my old address, pick up the car and drive it to the aformentioned police station, again with all the attendant documentation and ask them to check the car. If they come back with no fines then cool, I'll just sell it and take the £4k for my troubles

[STUNO]

It seems your councils and police have made things so complicated they have tied themselves up in paperwork.

I got a parking notice from a council about 150 km from here last year, only the first pay it now notice though, a LETTER to the council stating that I wasn't there etc and not telling them they fu--ed up and wrote the wrong registration no.brought a reply that the ticket was cancelled, but of course no apology !

[jnoiles]

Update:

 

The letter has been faxed and posted off to the DVLA. Now to wait and see if they actually believe that I'm not the owner of the car. Fingers crossed.

[Rod/b]

Just skim read this and it's a similar situation to what I had. A local building firm registered 2 brand new wagons to my house and I got a load of congestion charge and parking fine notices sent to my place, albeit in the name of the building firm.

 

I spoke to DVLA and they wouldn't do anything for me straight away, however, I had to write to their SPECIAL CASEWORK team and confirm the only vehicles that I owned that should legitimately be registered at my address, at that time and in the past.

 

They told me that by doing this they would put a marker against the vehicles as unregistered and they would start flagging up on ANPR across the UK.

 

I contested the fines, and they were all cancelled after they checked back with DVLA.

 

One thing I never did work out though; I never once received a V5 for either of the wagons, which was a bit odd.

[Albert Ross]

That;'s because you can go into a local office and get your new v5 printed out while you wait, for a little extra fee.

[jnoiles]

I spoke to DVLA and they wouldn't do anything for me straight away, however, I had to write to their SPECIAL CASEWORK team and confirm the only vehicles that I owned that should legitimately be registered at my address, at that time and in the past.

 

Correct. Which is why I had to address the fax and post to the urgent attention of the SC2 unit. Special Casework, unit 2

 

One thing I never did work out though; I never once received a V5 for either of the wagons, which was a bit odd.

 

This is what was puzzling me. I would be surprised if this idiot was actually at my old address with the car. I reckon someone is doing it by getting V5's in person or they work at the post office and are intercepting the mail.

[jnoiles]

Been the Police. They say the car isn't currently registered to me. They said I should send a copy of all the correspondence I've been gathering up and send a copy, registered post to the bailiffs so they can't claim they didn't know I'd said it wasn't mine. Sounds a fair course of action.

 

They also said wait until the DVLA comes back to you with the details. It's not currently showing as registered to me. If the DVLA think it is registered to me then he said apply for the V5 and bring it in to us at the station. And no we can't give you any written confirmation that the car is not currently registered to yourself. Which is fair enough but sort of feels odd, I mean technically isn't applying for a V5 for a car you know you don't own a legal no no?

 

Anyway, ignoring that for a moment. If the DVLA come back to me and say it's not mine then that brings us back to Marston. Who have presumably seen that I've lived at the old address, decided it must have been mine, got a warrant of execution from a court in Northamptonshire and sent me the bullying letter of demand. If that's the case that seems a pretty weak basis for the issuing of a warrant of execution. Anyone know what the conditions of applying for a warrant of execution are? Do they need to prove reasonably that I might be the man they want or do they simply look at me having lived there previously and thought oh well, give it a go, he might pay up. Surely a court would want a decent standard of suspicion here? Warren T Claim, any thoughts?

[scaryoldcortina]

Not currently registered to you doesn't mean it wasn't at the time of the ticket. As for the rest of it, iirc Northampton County Court is the centre that processes all electronic/bulk small claims, so it will have received minimal attention there - ticket + keeper details + ignored letters and fine not paid = summons. There will have been letters to your old place but they probably all went in a bin instead of being forwarded. An actual visit from an actual bailiff might have jogged someone's memory as to your forwarding address (or they could have just searched the electoral roll for you).

[warren t claim]

Been the Police. They say the car isn't currently registered to me. They said I should send a copy of all the correspondence I've been gathering up and send a copy, registered post to the bailiffs so they can't claim they didn't know I'd said it wasn't mine. Sounds a fair course of action.

 

They also said wait until the DVLA comes back to you with the details. It's not currently showing as registered to me. If the DVLA think it is registered to me then he said apply for the V5 and bring it in to us at the station. And no we can't give you any written confirmation that the car is not currently registered to yourself. Which is fair enough but sort of feels odd, I mean technically isn't applying for a V5 for a car you know you don't own a legal no no?

 

Anyway, ignoring that for a moment. If the DVLA come back to me and say it's not mine then that brings us back to Marston. Who have presumably seen that I've lived at the old address, decided it must have been mine, got a warrant of execution from a court in Northamptonshire and sent me the bullying letter of demand. If that's the case that seems a pretty weak basis for the issuing of a warrant of execution. Anyone know what the conditions of applying for a warrant of execution are? Do they need to prove reasonably that I might be the man they want or do they simply look at me having lived there previously and thought oh well, give it a go, he might pay up. Surely a court would want a decent standard of suspicion here? Warren T Claim, any thoughts?

 

The original ticket will have a section on the back for the registered keeper to nominate who was driving. The RK obviously must of nominated yourself at some point! This info is acceptable for the courts to issue a warrant.

[jnoiles]

The original ticket will have a section on the back for the registered keeper to nominate who was driving. The RK obviously must of nominated yourself at some point! This info is acceptable for the courts to issue a warrant.

 

Thanks. I googled high and low and couldn't find anything clear on how that process worked? Lots of vagueness.

 

I'll be interested in what the DVLA come back with. If it's never been registered to me, then it ends the adventure once I submit the forms.

 

If they say it was me, the adventure continues.....

[jnoiles]

Right. So the info from the DVLA arrived. Someone called James Cowe living at my previous address sold this car to me. Unfortunately he sold it to me 8 months after I'd left the address and managed to get my signature and date of birth wrong on the registration documents. Twat.

 

So I've sent this back to the DVLA with proof of when I moved out, pointed out that this idiot has my birth date wrong (they can check it against my drivers license) and my signature wrong. I've sworn that I'm not the owner and that I've never intended to buy it. I sent this first class registered yesterday. I should have the letter of confirmation this week.

 

Once I have that I can fill in the forms for the county court and get it cancelled. Then send a registered copy of this to the council, the bailiffs, the insurance company and try again with the police.

 

In the mean time if anyone knows the whereabout of a James Cowe, formerly of an address in Burrells Wharf, Isle of Dogs, please give him a bloody good kicking for me would you?

[Louise2cv]

 

Bloody hell. What a plum. I hope he gets in some sort of trouble with the law over this.

[DCLane]

Keep going - there aren't that many people called James Cowe (my system shows between 3-5 in London atm). However, I've only got one definate for that time period.

 

Is anyone on this forum (or similar) anywhere near there to check whether the car's still there?