grizz Posted March 11 Author Posted March 11 Bunch of small things done the last few days. Been to the paint shop twice this week. I bought more of those £1.20 cans of paint. A total of 10 this week. Some pretty colours that should work well for the lowrider style designs. I also bought a liter of the silver that I had bought before. I need to repaint the roof, to keep myself happy. £72.00 includes three of the chap cans. Expensive lesson learned from the first 500ml that was £38.00 already. Being the guy in charge means that I have to keep standards high. I also collected a Marketplace purchase after the paint shop. I paid £5.00 or $6.50 for this whole lot. Mostly New, Unused and clearly came from somewhere that they bought in multiple sizes. Over 100 drill bits in this lot, which means I paid around 5p per unit, regardless of size. . Westbay, Tenmil Socket, MrBig and 1 other 4
grizz Posted March 12 Author Posted March 12 Comments on other forums sometimes bring more clarity and information. Check out these two screenshots. Open the photos and read the content, then pick up your jaw……. I started counting and there’s way over 100 of them. Mostly unused. I think I may have bought the deal of week. If you look at the other screenshot further up, the description was completely wrong, so maybe that helped, or else less people do their own engineering and repairs. Chuffed for sure. . MrBig and auntiemaryscanary 2
grizz Posted March 12 Author Posted March 12 Kindness Sometimes it seems to be lacking these days. Then you click a like on a picture posted for someone else, intended to just say “yes I like this, it’s a nice thing “ Followed by a tagging by the original poster to ask if I was interested in the item. My intention was never to ask for it, but being who I am, means that a pocket knife would always draw my attention. So I sent a PM to accept, offering to pay postage. That done, @Tenmil Socket put it in the post for me, delivered today. I opened the envelope and found, not just the knife, which was his grandfather’s, but also included, an Aston Martin DB6 model for my cabinet and a set of blue valve caps, having two blue cars, still to be decided. So after finishing some more paint technique practice for the Oldsmobile lowrider inspired paint job, I headed into the woodwork shop to sharpen the three blades. This knife can now cut. Life is good ehhh ? . SilverMachine, eddyramrod, auntiemaryscanary and 5 others 8
grizz Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 Apologies to everyone who knows what they’re doing For those who are following with a macabre fascination in my continued investment in the Oldsmobile project….. Thank you for watching and even more so for your comments That’s both of you 😉 So yesterday I tried out a few more “techniques” to get an idea of layered masking. One of the things when you look at lowrider paint, is the complexity of layers. This means layer upon layer of masking First load of pictures shows my stash of 23 cans of paint At £1.20 each, quite an investment . And some of the masking done . auntiemaryscanary, Westbay, Rustybullethole and 4 others 7
grizz Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 Few photos of the bits that I had done minus masking. My favourite continues to be the continuous line or infinity line. The problem as you will see is that the vinyl tape and cold, along with tight curves, doesn’t quite work. But it works well for illustration of what I want. with an airbrush gun the outcomes are very different. I also used the new honeycomb stencil and a fade. I like how it works. And at £12.00 it’s an expensive piece of kit. I used my Dewalt hot air gun all day to preheat the metal, dry the layers of paint. Finally…….. It just wouldn’t be a good day in the garage if George didn’t come in to inspect everything and approve of my efforts and progress. Of course there’s some space left on the door. What next ?? . 666jjp, beko1987, Tenmil Socket and 2 others 5
93fxdl Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Freak drops? Candy?, flake,? Colour shift? Image transfer? Striving every day to be a bad influence Ttfn Glenn Westbay and grizz 2
Westbay Posted March 13 Posted March 13 First go at infinity lines looks good, I also like the pyramids - almost three dimensional... and the sunburst (brighter colours ???) Are all the panels going to be different (random) or is the offside going to be (exactly) the same as the nearside etc? grizz 1
grizz Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 17 minutes ago, Westbay said: First go at infinity lines looks good, I also like the pyramids - almost three dimensional... and the sunburst (brighter colours ???) Are all the panels going to be different (random) or is the offside going to be (exactly) the same as the nearside etc? Random as can be. Not sure what yet I do like these split panels .
93fxdl Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Since the 1/4 fine line doesn't give tight enough radii, try getting a couple of thinner rolls 1/8 and 3/16 Might it be an idea to draw a grid with Chinagraph pencil when doing the endless lines to help keep them square and parallel Ttfn Glenn grizz 1
grizz Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 18 minutes ago, 93fxdl said: Since the 1/4 fine line doesn't give tight enough radii, try getting a couple of thinner rolls 1/8 and 3/16 Might it be an idea to draw a grid with Chinagraph pencil when doing the endless lines to help keep them square and parallel Ttfn Glenn It is the 3mm version that I used. Grid is a great suggestion. I was going to pencil marks on the section where the lines were going.
grizz Posted March 15 Author Posted March 15 Mostly used the Dewalt heat gun to do a few more small panels on the door this week. Paint wants heat and dryness. Keep in mind all of these bits are just to figure out what works and how to get around some of the techniques to deliver the look I am hoping for. The next panel was me trying out layering and how to multimask stuff. You have to actually go in reverse to keep the colours and designs you need to end up with. I also experimented with straight water to try creating a water droplet effect. And failed (twice) so I think I should try finding a YouTube tutorial on how to get the effect right. Because done right, it really screws with my mind. . I am usually a look and learn type learner. Monkey See, Monkey Do. . auntiemaryscanary, 666jjp and eddyramrod 3
grizz Posted March 15 Author Posted March 15 I also took delivery of my new £30.00 triggered airbrush gun. I did try it out but totally failed on all levels. I may go sit down in the garage with it again today and try figure out how to make it deliver what I want. Setting up, handling, technique After the layering exercise, I needed an easy win. So back to single colour lace. Light blue over silver. Made a nice contrast to the darker, more complex colours previously used. One more, slightly complex panel left to play with. I have an idea of what I want to try here . eddyramrod 1
grizz Posted March 15 Author Posted March 15 Every now and then you find something useful. This tutorial is great. Westbay 1
grizz Posted March 16 Author Posted March 16 Last bit of the door painted. I decided to go for a traditional hotrod style of flames. And I wanted to try out the water droplet technique again (spoiler alert- Failed) I have no intention of adding flames to the Oldsmobile. After completing the last panel, I counted the amount of styles or techniques and it seems like I have touched on about 15 or more. Some pics that include the prep and droplet fail. I really liked the final result of the whole door. . Rustybullethole, auntiemaryscanary, MrBig and 3 others 6
93fxdl Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Possible cheaper silver metallic https://ebay.us/m/hAfXri Just under £23 plus a litre of thinner gives you 2 litres of practice. Downside being, will need clear coat to finish I have used this, gives a really good metallic Ttfn Glenn grizz 1
grizz Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 Well. Yesterday and Today I was busy. Not yet completely done with the preparation. But tonight……… I am having a Kraken Rum and Pepsi Max. A special treat for sure. I think I have earned it. And a big piece of Lamb that Pedro put out for me. Tomorrow we pray for much sunshine and heat……. .
grizz Posted March 19 Author Posted March 19 I just watched this short video. There will be opinions on both sides of the debate. But it is worth considering. Yes they use American examples, but apply it to European examples and the outcomes are not different. https://youtu.be/M2HVIzouexM?si=d4qI3av7z9oUwgLo . 93fxdl and Westbay 2
93fxdl Posted March 20 Posted March 20 Otherwise known as " enshitification " but the technical term is inbuilt obsolesce, not just cars, white goods power tools, etc, are also being made irreparable, Also the quality of replacement parts is plummeting whilst the price climbs Ttfn Glenn grizz 1
grizz Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 Where were we ?? Ahhh yes, the Oldsmobile and winter hanging around. Still using if at every opportunity, despite this stupid war driving up the cost of EVERYTHING. This includes even a second liter of silver paint that I went to buy on Monday. Last week it was £68.00 and this week price was up to over £74.00 That makes for an increase of almost 10% Yup……. Read that The car needs a few parts to make it operate properly. This includes an indicator stalk and switch mechanism on the steering column. Mid January I priced it them up. Admittedly this was the best price shown. But yesterday a friend on vacation in Florida walked into an Auto Zone to enquire about the same parts. And later checked online……. These prices are way beyond belief. So I guess I will be assuming the position…… 🍩 .
grizz Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 Monday morning 10.30 I was out in the Oldsmobile and when I got back to the carpark, it made me smile. So I took a photo. As I often do. Little did I realise that it was to be the last photo of the yellow visualisation stripe displayed down the side that I would take. Went to town to get some food for the week. Still grinning madly, enjoying this absolute contradiction of a car. So many Americans seem to hate on it, often with no reason to do so, very often without ever having driven one, or even sat in one as a passenger or observer. Here on Mud Island it is essentially a totally unknown vehicle and both looked at with surprise and curiosity. I know a few people have mentioned they would love to own it over here. So at least the spirit of adventure has not been driven away from all of us by algorithms and media. When I got home, I decided that with the good weather ahead for the week, it was probably a good time to get started on preparing the car for paint. So reversed down to the garage and started by removing the yellow strip……. AaAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGHHHH !!!! Look at the pictures. Too late to go back then. So I carried on, and got started with mostly 240 grit discs on the air driven DA and some 180 to strip the boot or trunk lid which was covered in dead paint and peeling lacquer. In places Dennis suggested using a Stanley knife blade to flat scrape the paint that was flaking off in big chunks, forgot to take a good picture. By 5.30pm I was not done, and reversed the car into the hoarders garage for the night. While doing the preparation of the paint, you also have to prevent damage to door handles, bumpers and other plastic surfaces. So all that masking takes both time and careful consideration. Carrying on on Tuesday with the preparation which was taking much longer than just washing the car would have taken. Especially feathering in the damaged torn off paint so that the new paint would be smooth over the various different textures. The fun was yet to start. Masking in a way that you would not be able to see a load of unsightly overspray and ridges, takes forever. Especially if you are doing it on your own. Trust me on this. . MrBig 1
93fxdl Posted March 20 Posted March 20 That paint really is abysmal, reminds me of some early ford metallic paint, would peel of in chunks, remember seeing an escort with almost as much primer showing as paint. Interesting to see how this evolves, will it ever be finished or will new scheme's continue to appear? Ttfn Glenn Ps why didn't you try the paint I linked for you?
grizz Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 38 minutes ago, 93fxdl said: That paint really is abysmal, reminds me of some early ford metallic paint, would peel of in chunks, remember seeing an escort with almost as much primer showing as paint. Interesting to see how this evolves, will it ever be finished or will new scheme's continue to appear? Ttfn Glenn Ps why didn't you try the paint I linked for you? Morning 1.) Like a Gen-Z kid, my feelings are actually hurt here by this comment Interesting to see how this evolves, will it ever be finished or will new scheme's continue to appear? 2.) Waiting for you to transfer the funds for the paint you want to see used mate. Disclaimer: I would hate to alienate anyone from responding on here, so points 1 & 2 are made in one dimensional internet forum style. 93fxdl 1
93fxdl Posted March 20 Posted March 20 5 hours ago, grizz said: Morning 1.) Like a Gen-Z kid, my feelings are actually hurt here by this comment Interesting to see how this evolves, will it ever be finished or will new scheme's continue to appear? 2.) Waiting for you to transfer the funds for the paint you want to see used mate. Disclaimer: I would hate to alienate anyone from responding on here, so points 1 & 2 are made in one dimensional internet forum style. No insult intended in any way, was meaning that in my experience, when doing painting your skills will develop and your ideas will evolve, I have pieces I did previously which at the time I thought were good, now think they're rubbish and should be redone since I now have learned better ways to do it and possibly a change of design The comments about the silver paint was me trying to save you money, not expecting you to use it, just wondered why you went for the expensive option not any sort of dig, just asking for feedback Hope normal service can be resumed, again I had no intention to cause upset, Ttfn Glenn grizz 1
grizz Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 3 hours ago, 93fxdl said: No insult intended in any way, was meaning that in my experience, when doing painting your skills will develop and your ideas will evolve, I have pieces I did previously which at the time I thought were good, now think they're rubbish and should be redone since I now have learned better ways to do it and possibly a change of design The comments about the silver paint was me trying to save you money, not expecting you to use it, just wondered why you went for the expensive option not any sort of dig, just asking for feedback Hope normal service can be resumed, again I had no intention to cause upset, Ttfn Glenn Thank you. Understood. You are absolutely right. @Westbay is ahead of the curve on information and previews. He actually challenged me earlier when I said I would be redoing some work I had done today. So from that point of view, understanding what you meant…… yes, possibly. Paint, I was sticking to the same single stage as the roof had twice already. I am scared of mixing types of paint. Reactions etc. Westbay 1
Westbay Posted March 21 Posted March 21 As previously 'discussed'.. you / 'we' are learning a shed load of new skills / techniques in a relatively short space of time. You will not achieve 'perfection' during this phase... Get some paint down and as skills / techniques develop ... don't forget you're learning design as you turn thoughts/ideas into product. 🤔 perhaps , instead of going for the ultimate GRIZZ idea(s) in the first hit tone it down a bit and get some quick wins ! does wonders for the mojo ! 😇 and it's easier to see what works and what doesn't . What works on a single panel may look great but as part of the whole doesn't... At this stage of this particular project I don't think you will ever be satisfied, but, the next one (same car / different version whatever) ... so if you have to revisit certain aspects just treat it as part of the learning curve... Don't forget even the great artists reuse their 'canvas' ... 🤣 13 hours ago, grizz said: I am scared of mixing types of paint. Reactions etc. Quite right, always try and buy paint and supplies from same source(actual shop as opposed to online) as if half decent, they should point out any conflicts . grizz and auntiemaryscanary 1 1
grizz Posted March 21 Author Posted March 21 Continuing with the preparation….. Man, (woman too) this takes a a while. I am doing a complete colour/color change here. One of my pet hates is masses of overspray on anything from refrigerators to gokarts and anything in-between including cars of course. So masking in a way that doesn’t show much or any of the original paint, is paramount. I had to mask inside of all the opening edges, fuel filler door, boot/trunk lid, bonnet/hood, engine bay, doors to prevent paint being forced inside all these joints and over rubber seals etc. Because of my attention to detail ( very mild OCD) I also had to mask up the complete drivers door separately so that the car could be moved around in the yard. And glad I dod so. Pics show the extent to which lips and edges needed to be masked. It certainly took six or more hours longer than anticipated. Putting sanding and painting back by a day. And with the weather being as much hit and miss as it has been, it’s actually stressful. No, I don’t expect you to understand. Another thing I forgot to mention about this job was that I am doing it in phases. Or parts. Or episodes. So originally I was going to do the roof and C-pillars as part one. PROJECT CREEP……. So my preparation was now down to the bumper edge and door rubbing strips. Of course when you think you’re done…….. You’re not. Yet. Dennis suggested some acrylic primer on the rear bumper that had always been really bad, the sanding back of dead clear lacquer had gone through to plastic in a few places. Those who actually read the text and look at the photos will also notice that I had added etch primer to all exposed metal areas, which was a sensible move. Observations, comments? . 93fxdl, auntiemaryscanary, Westbay and 1 other 4
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