1966 Plymouth Fury 3

[PhilA]

1 hour ago, hairnet said:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123860934265

https://www.ebay.com/itm/281118669744

dunno why this is sooo cheap when theres ones for 100 bucks +

https://www.ebay.com/itm/231436637609

also see above why rebuild when new is cheaper

can you rayjay the 318

 

64-66 specific, the later ones are more common.

[PhilA]

Pulled hard enough, the indicator assembly came off. The gearshift selector is all loose.

End of the arm has a pin on it that fits in the detents, prevents shifting from Park etc without first pulling the lever towards you.

Lever arm polished up okay though.

That's the rest of it that needs to come apart now to see why it's so wibbly wobbly (technical term).

 

Phil

[hairnet]

2 hours ago, PhilA said:

 

Lever arm polished up okay though.

That's the rest of it that needs to come apart now to see why it's so wibbly wobbly (technical term).

 

Phil

too much irish stout from nola brewery

 

[PhilA]

The difference between the climate of Mississippi and New Mexico is visible here.

Replacement even still has the cadmium coating on the shaft. It's also officially the nicest chrome on the car.

 

[PhilA]

Decided today to pull the engine apart because the weather was nice.

Pretty nasty. Wasp nest in the oil gallery was a nice touch

All four rear pots were full of water.

Heads are equally bad.

Cuban rebuild on the pistons and block (wire brush).

Water was sat all the way up in the intake. Nasty.

I've lost my valve spring compressor. Improvised with a G clamp but I need to make a cage for the top.

It then started to rain so I packed up and head in, out of energy. 

Need new manifold gaskets.

[PhilA]

Bought a tool at AutoZone because I couldn't find mine.

Valves all out, I'll start cleaning it up another night.

[PhilA]

Clean up commence. These valves are seriously ropey. The sealing faces were also all burned and I'm surprised I had any compression at all. They recieved a do-or-die reface and will be lapped into the seats.

Fun times 

[hairnet]

On 8/8/2022 at 12:35 AM, PhilA said:

 

It then started to rain so I packed up and head in, out of energy

Eat shit with more sugar in it

 

Nice.one phil

[PhilA]

To my surprise, they all lapped in well.

That's that one done.

 

One more to go.

[PhilA]

You can see how badly the valve faces were burned, with a gentle skim the divot is left behind. Easily two thou'.

Taken back down to flat.

And repeat.

I'll do the intake valves tomorrow.

[PhilA]

Also, please note this isn't a permanent repair thing.

This engine is so far beyond trashed it's just to get it running. When I tried it before the compression was so poor all it would do was pop and burp a little. I had enough compression on only two cylinders to even make the starter motor labor.

In normal running now I would expect a couple thousand miles out of those valves at best.

[sdkrc]

Haven't been on this thread in a while, forgot how good it was. Giving me motivation to work on mine. Really enjoying the updates and the workarounds, cracking work @PhilA 

[PhilA]

Real Cheap Rebuild, that's all.

This valve, stored underwater, didn't fare well.

It did clean up and I'm claiming now it's a performance part based upon golf ball physics; the pattern of dimples helps break up the boundary layer and allows for better gas flow.

Some were better than others. That can go together if time allows.

 

[jonathan_dyane]

6 hours ago, PhilA said:

Also, please note this isn't a permanent repair thing... In normal running now I would expect a couple thousand miles out of those valves at best.

I don't know, depending on what the bottom end is like I wouldn't be surprised if you got 20000+ out of it

[PhilA]

46 minutes ago, jonathan_dyane said:

I don't know, depending on what the bottom end is like I wouldn't be surprised if you got 20000+ out of it

The bottom end is well within factory spec. That's what is a shame with this engine.

[PhilA]

I decided to get a little Heath Robinson and connected the remains of the shed wiring up to the generator.

Nice idea in principle but all modern electronics are crap and all 3 of the LED lights above the benches went POP within a minute of being switched on. The fluorescent tube continues to work.

Still, managed to clean up the cylinder head. Next up, lapping in the valves.

Phil

[somewhatfoolish]

That last valve would concern me, the pits are really deep and the head dropping off would spoil your day. Good shade tree mechanicking all the same.

[PhilA]

13 minutes ago, somewhatfoolish said:

That last valve would concern me, the pits are really deep and the head dropping off would spoil your day. Good shade tree mechanicking all the same.

That's all this is, yup.

I picked down into the pits and the camera made them look worse than they are. That's the intake valve so hotspots are less of a concern.  If the exhaust valves looked like that I would agree more.

[PhilA]

The fusible resistors went and fused.  Pop.

[PhilA]

The day cooled off a little.

Lapped in the valves, it got a bit late to be running the generator so I packed up and will refit the springs tomorrow.

[PhilA]

This is an ungrateful bastard of an engine.

Trying to figure why it refuses to run.

[jonathan_dyane]

What a shit.

Distributor timing 180 degrees out?

[PhilA]

24 minutes ago, jonathan_dyane said:

What a shit.

Distributor timing 180 degrees out?

Winnar winnar CHICEN DINNAR

 

Yeah, I'm a dumbass and forgot you can get the timing at TDC on the wrong stroke with the dizzy in backwards.

 

Started up and ran briefly on all 8. I'll go get a rebuild kit for the carb, they've got them on the shelf at the auto store.

 

[jonathan_dyane]

Great result!

I may have previously made the same error...

[hairnet]

the inspection guy is gonna love you when you turn up in that

shit phil you all the cool cars maaaan

 

[PhilA]

Put the rebuild kit on the carb. Float keeps sticking down which is a pain.

Also it keeps sneezing back out the carb and trying to set me on fire.

[PhilA]

I might have blown the power valve out on the carb. That'll be a pain in the ass if I have. I'll just block the thing off if I have.

[PhilA]

Testing shows that the spark is not going where the rotor arm points.

It's going whichever way it pleases.

 

New distributor cap, coil, rotor and amplifier module ordered. $24! 

We'll see if that makes the slightest bit of difference. It started to rain. 

I might pull the plugs later and do a compression test now that the rings have settled in a touch.

[hairnet]

23 hours ago, PhilA said:

 

 

Yeah, I'm a dumbass 

 

hey shit happens

 

[PhilA]

Checked compression. Remember the rear 4 pots were full of water.

That's better than I thought it would be; certainly good enough to run. Apparently the 318 needs 100+ to run well, 80 it'll start to misfire and lower than about 65 it'll be really hard to start.

Widened the plug gap out to 45 thou' because apparently that's where HEI should be at to reduce internal tracking. That helped and it actually barked off a couple times so hopefully the new cap will help.

Carburetor continues to be a leaky POS.