lesapandre Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 IF you can keep your head when all about youAre losing theirs and blaming it on you,If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,But make allowance for their doubting too;If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,Or being hated, don't give way to hating,And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;If you can meet with Triumph and DisasterAnd treat those two impostors just the same;If you can bear to hear the truth you've spokenTwisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:If you can make one heap of all your winningsAnd risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,And lose, and start again at your beginningsAnd never breathe a word about your loss;If you can force your heart and nerve and sinewTo serve your turn long after they are gone,And so hold on when there is nothing in youExcept the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,If all men count with you, but none too much;If you can fill the unforgiving minuteWith sixty seconds' worth of distance run,Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! Kipling. Hawkeyethenoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurious Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On the flip side, dealing with buyers is a pain in the arse sometimes. I was looking at what would be a classic car for motor tax purposes in Ireland (ie >30 years old, difference between €80p/a and €710 p/a on a 2000cc car). The father was looking at it as a nice option for a second car that's a bit quirky. They're cheap to import too at that age. He asked me to keep an eye out whilst he back in Ireland looked there. I'd arranged to look at an old Citroen. Explained to the seller I was looking for a car for the father, was looking to export it. Arranged a date, sent photos and everything. Looked well. The day before he spotted something suitable back in Ireland and popped a deposit on it. He didn't want anything else at that point so I wasn't driving 120miles return to look at this car I'd arranged. So I sent an apologetic mail to the guy on messenger the morning before the day I was due to look at it. Said the father had spotted something else and good luck with sale etc.. Got a nasty message back about being a time waster and a complete knob etc. Got a nasty comment on a Facebook post about being a time waster to "warn" other people, I got that deleted. Etc etc. Like I'm under no obligation to buy/view. And that's the reality, your car isn't the only car out there. And if something else comes up in between the arranged time, especially if I'm viewing it on behalf of someone, well there's nothing I can do to be honest. Suck it up, the world doesn't owe you a sale. Like what's the point of turning up to only waste time if I wasn't going to buy. Anyway bit of a rant. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New POD Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bunglebus said: Actually I'd prefer someone looked at the car before haggling. How can you decide what you're willing to pay without looking at it? Fair enough the "I've got £x, will you accept it" routine if you're genuinely willing to pay that amount without further haggling. I once told someone over the phone that I'd knock £50 off for every fault I had not already mentioned. Edited December 24, 2019 by New POD If he could find any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Case Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, lesapandre said: If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster! Kipling. Kipling obviously owned a Dolomite at one stage bunglebus and 108 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Spurious said: On the flip side, dealing with buyers is a pain in the arse sometimes. I was looking at what would be a classic car for motor tax purposes in Ireland (ie >30 years old, difference between €80p/a and €710 p/a on a 2000cc car). The father was looking at it as a nice option for a second car that's a bit quirky. They're cheap to import too at that age. He asked me to keep an eye out whilst he back in Ireland looked there. I'd arranged to look at an old Citroen. Explained to the seller I was looking for a car for the father, was looking to export it. Arranged a date, sent photos and everything. Looked well. The day before he spotted something suitable back in Ireland and popped a deposit on it. He didn't want anything else at that point so I wasn't driving 120miles return to look at this car I'd arranged. So I sent an apologetic mail to the guy on messenger the morning before the day I was due to look at it. Said the father had spotted something else and good luck with sale etc.. Got a nasty message back about being a time waster and a complete knob etc. Got a nasty comment on a Facebook post about being a time waster to "warn" other people, I got that deleted. Etc etc. Like I'm under no obligation to buy/view. And that's the reality, your car isn't the only car out there. And if something else comes up in between the arranged time, especially if I'm viewing it on behalf of someone, well there's nothing I can do to be honest. Suck it up, the world doesn't owe you a sale. Like what's the point of turning up to only waste time if I wasn't going to buy. Anyway bit of a rant. Sorry. You were quite right. You politely let him know in good time. Maybe vendor behaviour like that leads to THE SILENCE or as I call it BEAMED UP BY ALIENS. I have even had people be on their 'way over' and 'disappear' into the famous South London Triangle- spooky stuff. Somewhere there is a civilization on a distant planet populated by missing tat buyers...a kind of virtual world where they all say 200M8 for ever and ever.... 3001 Spacecrapology. bunglebus, Supernaut, DoctorRetro and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangeangel Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 On 12/24/2019 at 8:38 AM, DodgyBastard said: I find it much easier to buy and sell through anywhere but here. It's easier to get actual money from the general public even if you do have to deal with the odd spastic. I've both bought and sold on here with no problems at all, and only been royally pissed about on the one occasion. My experience of dealing with the general public is that the 'odd spastic' is more the norm than an exception - you're welcome to them! Angrydicky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Hunt Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 On 12/24/2019 at 6:20 AM, wuvvum said: I always wonder why people seem to think saying "cash" is going to get them a better price. What other payment method are sellers going to accept on a £300 car - Green Shield stamps? Cheque without Bank Card...........as if it were an alternative option. bangernomics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeyethenoo Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 On 12/24/2019 at 4:32 PM, lesapandre said: IF you can keep your head when all about youAre losing theirs and blaming it on you,If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,But make allowance for their doubting too;If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,Or being hated, don't give way to hating,And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;If you can meet with Triumph and DisasterAnd treat those two impostors just the same;If you can bear to hear the truth you've spokenTwisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:If you can make one heap of all your winningsAnd risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,And lose, and start again at your beginningsAnd never breathe a word about your loss;If you can force your heart and nerve and sinewTo serve your turn long after they are gone,And so hold on when there is nothing in youExcept the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,If all men count with you, but none too much;If you can fill the unforgiving minuteWith sixty seconds' worth of distance run,Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! Kipling. Bravo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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