Baz Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 It's been one of those unfortunate days today, where all three cars needed re-fuelling at the same time....And two had been run pretty low (thankyou, dear wife! ) NEARLY £120!!!!! I've always maintained that I'll never be rich while I run A car....With three I'm doomed to poverty forever I think!
retrogeezer Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 filled up my mondeo the other day from nearly empty - £64.00!!! £64 to fill up a run of the mill family car - are the government trying to bankrupt us all???
r.welfare Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Yes, it's crazy. Filled up the estate with DERV the other day - it was empty, and it's got a 70ltr tank - so over £70! Great.However I have purchased 20ltrs of vegetable oil from Costco today for £13, so I am going to try a 50:50 mix in the saloon once the tank level drops down to about half full.
Milford Cubicle Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Does yours have a Bosch injector pump? PSA diesels of that era have a confusing mix of both Lucas and Bosch pumps.I only ever put a tenner in my cars, unless I'm going far.
r.welfare Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Yup - gold pipes and all that, even says Bosch on the damper thingy bolted to the front. Plus it looks like the Bosch fuel pump pic in the Haynes Joke Book, so it must be right...
55bloke Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I thought veg oil needed lots more refining before it can be used - wreakes havock with injectors, filters, etc. Have a look at www.bioukfuels.co.uk
Ratdat Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I'be bunged a drop of neat Flora through my Terrano a couple of times and it ran lovely. Felt no different to diesel, pulled the same but a bit smelly! Didn't seem to do it any harm at all.
Milford Cubicle Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I've done it with a few cars (Rovers 220Di, 420SDi, 825D) with no ill effects apart from taking longer when cold starting. I did bung diesel, and injector cleaner in the odd time to clean out the system though.Straight veg' oil is fine in older, more basic diesel engines with Bosch pumps.
retrogeezer Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Mate of mine has been running his Peugeot van on a 50/50 mix for ages with no problems...only thing is he said that Veg oil has jumped up in price by about 20-30p a litre recently. I wonder why that is!
ChinaTom Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 This'll probably annoy more than surprise, but I filled up the Pajero with #93 before I came back to UK for 38 quid. It has the optional 110 litre mega tank, and I put 107 litres in it. Once again, that's 38 quid. Our drivers moan about the price of #93 (that's normal unleaded) as it has increased in price by 25% in the last 2 years.I filled up the Jag at Tescos this morning, and this would have bought me over 200 litres back in China.On the bright side, I got 680 miles from a tank (-0.5%) in the Rover 75. That can't be bad. What is bad however is that 70 quid only gets you 260 miles in a 6 litre 12 pot despite the optimistic fuel computer boasting an average of 19.3 mpg. I knew it was too good to be true.
Guest Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I've not filled any car up for about a fortnight now, envy me and my low mileage! Half a tank left in the Galant, that should do me until the new year at least. Lovely.
Mr_Bo11ox Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Costs £40 to fill up the 323, that lasts about 340 miles. Costs about £75 to refill the Audi 200, so I never do it.
pogweasel Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I cannot fill up my BMW as it pisses the fuel all over the floor. I have a special credit card for filling up the Astra Van. Couldn't give a shit how much it costs, cos it just gets passed on to clients. Hillmans never move so no bother there. That just leaves the trouble & strife's focus, which costs about £53 to brim when she runs it dry. Which is most of the time.
mk2_craig Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I've stopped brimming the tank unless I'm on a run to Scotland and back or something. Last time I filled a car right up, the f*cker got stolen that night
wuvvum Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I never normally put more than a tenner in unless I have a specific journey to make - every time I fill a vehicle right up you can guarantee it's going to go wrong pretty much immediately. On Wednesday night I went from Norwich to Clenchwarton and back to pick up an organ - a round trip of about 90 miles. The Mazda managed it on £8-'orth of unleaded, which isn't too bad really. The Renner Six managed the 130 miles back from Sevenoaks on about £13. At the other end of the scale, the 164 uses about £13-worth of super unleaded to do 50 miles. Moral of the story - drive a small car. Or buy an old diesel and run it on chip fat of course. I have a hankering for an 825D at the moment...
pompei Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I heard someone on the radio saying that chip fat is fine for older diesels, but if you've got a common rail system, then it'll cufk it up. Dunno if he was from BP or whether that is true
Milford Cubicle Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 True, common rail diesels are mega-complex and have two fuel pumps.
Mat.T Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 as the student bum that i am, i only ever put £5 in but recently i've noticed that a fiver doesnt actually move the fuel gauge any more
55bloke Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 The cost of petrol really is getting scary-well over sixty quid to fill the 25. I remember when I 1st started driving, petrol was 30p a gallon! But.......... did you see Jeremy Clarkson talking about petrol costs on TG the other week?If you subtract the tax cost, it's actually ASTONISHING that the cost of oil exploration, transporting the crude to the refinery, refining it, transporting the petrol to the distribution centres, and then hauling it out to the garages can be covered, with a profit, out of what's left! Compare it, say, to the cost of beer!!!
Wolseley1660man Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Petrol is 1.14 Euros (81p) in the cheaper stations here in Ireland, which is shit as that that's 14 cents more in less than a year I think. Governments use the environment to gouge taxes out of people, and make people feel guilty for disagreeing. My car is not a daily driver until the brakes are fixed, nor will it be really, given I have a motorcycle, though an exceptionally thirsty one, a Harley Davidson VRSCR. 23 mpg in city traffic, though better on the open road obviously.Even if the brake parts come, I need to fix the 16/60 fuel gauge. I have BL workshop manual now, so it should be okay. I hope the fix does not involve ordering things.
pandamonium Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 Just went to buy veg oil for chips today, at Tesco 3litres of Tesco stuff was £2.21!!!! Thats getting as bad as diesel!!!
marinast Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 ''Cheap Rovers and chip fat oil, it's the future...''
Alpineandy Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Every now and then we get a '5p off each litre' for tescos fuel. We usually take 2 cars and fill them both from the same pump!
bones96 Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 my bro in law lives in wigan he wastelling me they went into lidls and emptied the shelf of cooking oil hes got an n reg mazda bongo he runs on a 50/50 mix he came down the other month and it cost him about £15 for the round trip
Mike D Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Alpineandy said: Every now and then we get a '5p off each litre' for tescos fuel. We usually take 2 cars and fill them both from the same pump! I've had a few of them, it's amazingly disheartening though that if i use it while filling my astra, i manage to save a whopping 2.80 odd off the cost of the tankfull.Greeeaaaat.
wilko Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Milford Cubicle said: I've done it with a few cars (Rovers 220Di, 420SDi, 825D) with no ill effects apart from taking longer when cold starting. I did bung diesel, and injector cleaner in the odd time to clean out the system though.Straight veg' oil is fine in older, more basic diesel engines with Bosch pumps.I've heard it is fine in most diesels too - however, I regularly had to change deep fat fryer oil a few years back, and stored the spare oil in a large stone cellar - it goes quite white and lumpy at low temperature! Apparently the answer to this is to mix a bit of parafin in and filter it...When I'm transfering petrol out of cars at the yard, I have a handy little tool to help - namely an old SU fuel pump with crocadile clips on the wires & big fuel filter attached bolted to a bit of dexion - I just plug it to a spare battery and let that do the work - I suppose a similar contraption could be rigged to put vege fat fuel through a filter and into a tank...I know if the fuel prices go much higher I will be joining the oil burning club...
mouseflakes Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 wilko said: When I'm transfering petrol out of cars at the yard, I have a handy little tool to help - namely an old SU fuel pump with crocadile clips on the wires & big fuel filter attached bolted to a bit of dexion - I just plug it to a spare battery and let that do the work neat!
bassman77 Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Ive just put £65 in my 93 Mondeo pov-spec saloon !!, shocking and the bloody tax is up at the end of the month, another 90 odd quid for 6 months .Definitly time to invest in some sub 1500cc japtat methinks.
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