What are these?

[Richard]

I found these three cars near a derelict hotel in Balloch.

 

They were the most decayed cars I have ever seen. They were indoors and hadn't been set on fire. Some of the graffiti looks to be 1970s and I reckon the cars have been there since then.

 

The first looks to be a saloon car. It has MacPherson struts at the front and leaf springs at the back. Disc brakes on the front. There is part of a tail light left. I'm thinking possibly Peugeot 404 but I really don't know.

 

 

 

 

 

The tail light is in this picture.

 

 

The second is more of a challenge. It's been a van with forward control. Wishbones at the front, leafs at the rear.

 

 

 

The third is in another building. It has a twin cam straight six with twin SUs. Leaf springs at the back and drums all round.

 

Apologies for the crap pictures. It had been a long day and I didn't take the tripod in so they are all taken with the flash. My companion took some too, so I'll see if they are any better when he gets them online.

[whitevanman]

first one I'm undecided about second one is likely to be a Ford Thames or a BMC (j4) or a Commer (Dodge)last one looks like a Jaguar Mk2 to meMind I'm not a big enough anorack in reality............unless its Cortinas

[mattblack]

I'm 99% sure the first one is a MK3 Zephyr 4...

[Owain-328i]

Jesus how did they become so rotten!!!???

[pbottomley]

Tax'd worse

[Owain-328i]

LOL!Think is ud not expect them to have completely rusted away like that.

[Guest Kyle]

The first one is indeed a Mk3 Zephyr 4, the van I haven't a clue and the last one I'm sure is/was a Mk7 Jag.

[FredTransit]

I'll give Time Team a call....

[M'coli]

The rust is explained by the west of Scotland's high rainfall, and quite possibly from being pissed on by graffiti writers etc..What hotel was it? I used to live about 8 miles from Balloch , if it's the hell-hole that is Balloch, Vale of Leven.

[trigger]

Bloody hell!, Don't think I've every seen such a rotten bunch of cars before! Like the period Ska graffiti on the walls though!

[Richard]

The rust is explained by the west of Scotland's high rainfall, and quite possibly from being pissed on by graffiti writers etc..What hotel was it? I used to live about 8 miles from Balloch , if it's the hell-hole that is Balloch, Vale of Leven.

I believe it was called the Hamilton House Hotel and it might have been known as Woodbank House in a previous life. It's a burnt out shell now.

[Richard]

Here are the other pictures, click on the picture to see the next one.

 

http://derelictionaddiction.fotopic.net/p59275790.html

[Guest]

Wow what a pile lol, strange how theres not a lot of trim left, the seats I can understand might have got munched by mice etc but I would have thought that a bit more plastic might have survived, perhaps they had already been heavily robbed.

[STUNO]

HMMMMM.....looking through Richard's pics the twin cam six looks to my highly untrained eye to be a Jaguar, but the bumper attached is not a Jaguar item. Can anyone identify it ?

[VWPowered]

nothing a T-Cut wont fix... :Dnice find

[Guest Kyle]

Could the van be a Standard Atlas?

[Richard]

Another couple. I know the answers this time.

 

 

 

 

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[mk1_4dr]

mk1/mk2 escort van? and maybe a mk4 zodiac?

[pogweasel]

Well one's a MiniVan FO SHO'. No idea on the other.

[Richard]

Yes @ Mini van. I'll be pedantic and say it's not a Zodiac.

[brammy777]

which means its a zephyr?

[mk1_4dr]

Ok, but you will concede that its one of these?

 

 

the c pillar looks the part

 

[Milford Cubicle]

I know the answers

 

Hope you don't mind me hijacking the thread, but what is this?

 

 

 

Car archaeology

[brammy777]

The front bumper looks very MK1 sierra like, but im not too sure, any way you can get the images bigger?Because now i dont think it is a sierra at all, ahahah

[Richard]

Ok, but you will concede that its one of these?

 

 

the c pillar looks the part

 

Yes it is, but it's a V4 so it has to be a Zephyr. Gawd only knows hot they got there, the Zephyr isn't even that rusty.

[Richard]

I know the answers

 

Hope you don't mind me hijacking the thread, but what is this?

 

 

 

Car archaeology

Hijack away!

 

Not much to go on there at all.

[Milford Cubicle]

I know, I hoped the bumper would yield some clues. It doesn't look like a very old car judging by the bumper.Harris peat bog devastation.

[Richard]

Do you know what it is?

[Milford Cubicle]

Not at all, couldn't find any clues on the ground.

[Albert Ross]

Fiat 128, possibly a 3P?just realised it has a separate strering box arrangement, not rack and pinion, so Mercedes? Opel/Vauxhall etc? BMW?