Presenting a car for MOT before earliest test date

[Tamworthbay]

Arsehole here.  

 

  I do admit to having worked in the motoring part of an insurance company, they (the one I worked for) do not base their  procedures and decisions on anecdotal anecdotes.  The unroadworthy clause was bought in because of things like expensive moderns on PCP get driven on bald underpressure front nearside tyres then find they don't go round the roundabout in a controlled manner, nothing to do with driving older/cheaper cars.  By writing it in the insurance just adds clarity to the otherwise endless pointless wibble about "insurance covers me to drive to a prebooked MOT or not"

 

Working for is not the same as being I don't blame insurance companies on putting clauses like this in their policies ( I do blame them for acting as a virtual cartel and having various seriously unfair practices though, but that is another thread entirely)

 

Nor is it to do with PCPs, some people look after them very well, to try and suggest it's just one sector of the market is crazy. I have seen immaculately looked after 16 year old bangers (like mine) and little city runabouts on PCP by 17 year olds and have seen £30k plus cars in my local tyre place trying to fit the wrong size tyre to save £20. You can't say a car will be well,or badly, maintained by what it is.

[sierraman]

Explain what to the traffic police, that I was driving a 1969 Mazda in Zimbabwe?

Your argument that the MOT system is a waste of time.

[gtd2000]

Your argument that the MOT system is a waste of time.

It's unlikely I'd be having such discussions with the traffic police. He's not the one that put that legislation into place.

 

I'm basing my outlook on the reality of having lived in a number of places where the MoT does not exist and by all accounts the sky does not fall, despite whatever messages one gets from the Nanny State over the years.

 

It's unlikley I'd be stopped by the traffic police for having a cracked CV joint boot or perhaps a blown headlamp bulb on a sunny day.

 

Around here they usually stop you for speeding, or other driving misedemenours. I've never actually been stopped for a roadworthyness check of my vehicle to be honest.

 

I've just come back from a spell of living/working in South Africa, over there you only need a "Roadworthy" certificate when you buy or sell a vehicle. Nothing is required during the interim period.

[Tamworthbay]

It's unlikely I'd be having such discussions with the traffic police. He's not the one that put that legislation into place.

 

I'm basing my outlook on the reality of having lived in a number of places where the MoT does not exist and by all accounts the sky does not fall, despite whatever messages one gets from the Nanny State over the years.

 

It's unlikley I'd be stopped by the traffic police for having a cracked CV joint boot or perhaps a blown headlamp bulb on a sunny day.

 

Around here they usually stop you for speeding, or other driving misedemenours. I've never actually been stopped for a roadworthyness check of my vehicle to be honest.

 

I've just come back from a spell of living/working in South Africa, over there you only need a "Roadworthy" certificate when you buy or sell a vehicle. Nothing is required during the interim period.

Hmmm, uk road deaths per 100,000 cars = 5.1, South Africa = 133. Whilst it won't all be down to poorly maintained cars, it's hardly a good example of the 'nanny state' making no difference.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

[gtd2000]

Hmmm, uk road deaths per 100,000 cars = 5.1, South Africa = 133. Whilst it won't all be down to poorly maintained cars, it's hardly a good example of the 'nanny state' making no difference.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

 

There might be a link to the "roadworthyness" of the vehicle but if you've spent any time in Africa, you'd soon see why there are so many deaths.

 

People are killed all the time, mainly due to lack of education..

 

I know I've never encountered people jogging down the white lines, in the middle of a three lane road, with 70MPH traffic over here in the UK but I have in Johannesburg.

 

People are regularly killed running across stretches of motorway, wearing dark clothing.

 

I was never keen on driving to and from work in the dark because of the number of people ambling around in the road wearing dark clothing with terrible levels of street lighting.

[dollywobbler]

Key thing to remember here is that failing an MOT won't be flagged up by ANPR. If there's still previous MOT, then it'll show as having MOT, so the chances of getting stopped after a failure are pretty bloody slim. If you're daft enough to drive around in a car that's failed on some dangerous stuff, then you deserve plod chucking the book at you, but they're still unlikely to pull you over I'd suggest, if the car shows as having an MOT. 

 

But, if you had a bump and anyone involved decided to check the MOT database, then you could find yourself in a spot of bother. So it's just a question of risk really. Given how many people I know who seem to find themselves driving around with lapsed MOTs without realising, I'd suggest there's a lot of hysteria here about bugger all.