Cop brakes, cop engine, cop suspension.

[cort16]

I was reading on another websites about how some of the 6.0 v8 Chevy Caprice police cars have started to come onto the market.

You can pick them up for about 10,000 dollars now without mega miles. 355bhp and 380 ft lb of torque seems like decent value While I like the crown vic I don't think it was every that fast. I also think these look pretty great in basic cop spec. The interior is also fantastically basic, who wouldn't want to deliver their kids to school in the back of one of these?

 

Extra stuff these things seems to have over standard are the engine runs on bio ethanol, it has heavy duty brakes and suspension, extra trans cooler. Also heavy duty 18" steel wheels and aux battery.

Vinyl flooring.

 

Who doesn't want heavy duty stuff on their car?  I wonder how they stand up after 80k or so I hear they're running nearly constantly as they don't want to shut down all the systems inside the car.

I don't imagine the v8 in this is really stressed.

 

It seems in the states a lot of the manufacturers offer a cop package on specific model and in some cases the general public can specify it.

I know there's rumours about the UK police cars having upgrades but I don't think it's true now other than a basic trim.

Was it ever true? Also the UK plod ever come close to to specifying a specific model spec'd for police use as with the crown vic in the usa?

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Chevrolet-Caprice-Police-/122434429496?epid=114827894&hash=item1c81a92238:g:W0sAAOSwA29Y5qgZ&vxp=mtr

 

[Schaefft]

Yeah, Jalopnik just released an article about them. I wouldn't mind owning one, there are a few Statesmans (or middle eastern spec Caprices) for sale in Europe, the fleet model might be a bit too basic for me inside though. Still a pretty unique car nowadays, the only real competitor left now is the Charger.

[cort16]

in the states the early 70's the Dodge Coronet police car had a 440ci 400bhp Motor!

 

[chaseracer]

Made in Australia by Holden.

 

chevy-caprice-ppv-police-car.html

[danthecapriman]

Most of the 'old school' yank police cars are beefed up well over civilian spec. Some of the older police cars were even given full rebuilds instead of replacement to double their service life they were that well regarded. The Caprice 9c1 was one such model.

An awful lot were also sold on to taxi cab drivers, the ex police specs making them much more durable for that sort of use.

 

Some uk cars were available as police spec. The Volvo 240 and Ford Granada are two I can think of, they had weird specs like a top of the range engine but bottom spec trim etc. I don't think they ever went as far as the US cars though.

[cort16]

The current US staple seems to be these v6 Explorers. Look at the nudge bars on this thing!

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Ford-Explorer-Police-AWD-/112406325889?epid=232714889&hash=item1a2bf06a81:g:0DEAAOSwONBZF3JC&vxp=mtr

[Richard]

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[scdan4]

is it me or is 90,000 miles in 5 years absolutely fuck all for a cop car?

 

ah.

 

[cort16]

I heard about them selling the crown vic's off as taxi after they're done as police cars. Says a lot about their durability.

I think they liked the crown vic as it was body on chassis so you can seperate them making them easier to fix and run as a fleet.

[cort16]

Some uk cars were available as police spec. The Volvo 240 and Ford Granada are two I can think of, they had weird specs like a top of the range engine but bottom spec trim etc. I don't think they ever went as far as the US cars though.

 

There's one of those granadas in the transport museum in Glasgow. The current crop of police cars just seem to be large diesel engine, really basic trim level. I remember them being all sorts of rumours about hotted up SD1's but I don't think it was true or at least not proved.

[danthecapriman]

I heard about them selling the crown vic's off as taxi after they're done as police cars. Says a lot about their durability.

I think they liked the crown vic as it was body on chassis so you can seperate them making them easier to fix and run as a fleet.

The Crown Vic is a really good car, the chassis and basic floor plan date right back to the late 70's. They were about the last of the traditional separate chassis US cars.

 

 

One of the UK forces that looked after a section of the M1 trialled a US spec Plymouth Fury back in the 70's as a traffic car! There's a pic of it with its two officers somewhere, I can't remember where I saw it though.

[danthecapriman]

Here's a 240 police car that been restored. I'm sure it says in the description about the specs.

 

http://hampshireconstabularyhistory.org.uk/?page_id=722

[Schaefft]

The 

 

Most of the 'old school' yank police cars are beefed up well over civilian spec. Some of the older police cars were even given full rebuilds instead of replacement to double their service life they were that well regarded. The Caprice 9c1 was one such model.
An awful lot were also sold on to taxi cab drivers, the ex police specs making them much more durable for that sort of use.

Some uk cars were available as police spec. The Volvo 240 and Ford Granada are two I can think of, they had weird specs like a top of the range engine but bottom spec trim etc. I don't think they ever went as far as the US cars though.

9c1 Caprice, at least the last gen ('91-'96) weren't too different from the civilian versions (or the Impala SS from '94 on). They basically had all the heavy duty stuff you could get in the civilian variants, the only real difference I can think of were the coolant hoses that were made from a different material, the only real proof that the car was in fact a 9c1. Not sure if it was any different before that, but I kinda doubt it. Maybe in the 70s.

[RayMK]

The much feared* UK Moggy Minor/1000 was upgraded for police use.  It was fitted with a holder for a bus timetable for when criminals needed to be chased.  

 

 

 

 

[fiatdaft]

I worked in Vauxhall parts for a few years,there where police spec part numbers for suspension parts and brakes, forestry commission also had different part number listings.

 

 

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[simmo]

[cort16]

There's some  great Jay Leno stuff on US cop cars. It seems the used quite a few fox body mustangs as patrol cars in the 80 as the performance of other stuff was so dismal. I wonder if the LA police cars are smog exempt?

 

 

[Schaefft]

They used notchback fox body Mustangs for highway petrol, they are a bit of an collectors item now.

[Faker]

Certain cars, for very specific roles, are specifically ordered with upgrades in northern ireland.... fact!

[Faker]

Exibit A!

 

Belfast ex-traffic car. Ordered direct from Vauxhall as a 2.0 Sri turbo, then shipped off to Courtenay Sport for complete upgrade. Courtenay everything! And I mean everything. Bought by a friend of mine. Superb wee car.

[Dirk Diggler]

Locally, they had an Avenger in Garda blue until 85 then a Renault 4 in the old livery, then a Belmont still in blue. Around 92 they changed to the familiar white (Corollas until lately, now Hyundai i30 diesels) We're in the mountains so the local part time station has an i30 and a 2003 3.0d Trooper

 

Always rumours about the exact spec of traffic cars here; there's still an unmarked Forester that is seriously fast on the N11 / M50 on an 07-D plate

 

They have to be retired at 300kkm here; sounds arbitrary but it is what it is.

 

My friends father had an ex Garda Carina II in the late 80s early 90s that he always claimed had hot cams etc etc; didnt know what I thought of it then and don't believe it now; still love Garda blue though

 

Would love a yank, but most of the replicas that I've seen here have been shit v6s or low power v8s

[Hendry]

I worked in Vauxhall parts for a few years,there where police spec part numbers for suspension parts and brakes, forestry commission also had different part number listings.

 

 

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Yeah I've heard of people getting a hold of cop spec pads and so on for Astras and Vectras.

 

Vauxhall has a special vehicles division which I don't think actually makes the cars any different from what the police in house coach works depts do to modify them for police use, only these get delivered already in police spec from the factory.

 

There was an article in Car Mechanics last month about Vauxhalls SV division, seemingly rather than butcher the interiors to bits for police car use, thus leaving holes everywhere and mounting holes and so on from the equipment, they actually manufacture for example, specific centre consoles for the Astra that can take police radios, button panels for the strobes and sirens etc. And plug in wiring adaptors for the equipment so when they are sold off at end of life, they can simply plug in a civilian spec radio headunit and fit a standard centre console trim so it all looks neat and tidy, no mounting bracket holes, gaps where cop radios were, butchered wiring looms and so on.

 

Is it also true that cop cars don't legally need to have a valid MOT?

[omegod]

I think the furthest we got were omegas with a bigger alternator and stiffer suspension 

[Faker]

Why can i not post images now?... I'm not using photobucket to post pics on here, but I've a pop up telling me to update my account. Am I just being simple here?!

[Faker]

..working now!

[cort16]

Totally standard

 

[fiatdaft]

Also cop cars only have road risk insurance .

 

 

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[Richard]

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[cort16]

I always wanted this. With a manual box though.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-Vauxhall-Omega-3-2-V6-Estate-Ex-Police-Armed-Response-Automatic-Auto-White-/182646821203?hash=item2a86995153:g:5pkAAOSwvjdZWEdn

[cort16]

All Vauxhalls etc (other than Omegas)

 

 

The force paid an average of £109,000 for each of the 90 armoured Vauxhall Insignia hatchbacks purchased between 2012 and 2014.

Some 12 different types of vehicle have been bought by the force over the past four years. The armoured Insignia costs around seven times more than any of these.

The lack of space has been blamed for back and neck injuries suffered by officers wearing bulky body armour and belts loaded with kit

 

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/police-spent-10m-on-wrong-cars-in-northern-ireland-35203236.html