The Epic Austrian owned R16 from Germany doing French things in a Parallel Universe near England Saga

[Junkman]

I would have been glad if mine were a 32 SEIEA. But it was an EIE and I had another one for parts.

It looks like Conrad tipped the only two examples in existence.

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

I would have been glad if mine were a 32 SEIEA. But it was an EIE and I had another one for parts.

It looks like Conrad tipped the only two examples in existence.

 

 

EIE OH NO

[Junkman]

Franzose parts are overpriced, of shit quality and never fit, you should have learned that by now...

 

Too bad that for many thing he's the only game in town.

[pshome]

Dunno about Renault, but for Peugeot part's he certainly is not. You can find any part he sells cheaper, NOS or of good qualitiy elsewhere and it will fit.

[Junkman]

Finding parts for an R16 is difficult at the best of times. R16 ownership really is a parallel universe, like Skizzer once said so aptly.

Being a clean sheet design built in a brand new factory built just for that, none of the Renault parts bin bits apply. Add to this all the stuff they changed for the '68->, they literally redesigned the car, and you can imagine that when having a ->'68, you have to be grateful for anything you can get your hands on. Parts for other Renaults of the era are much easier to source.

 

Der Franzose is merely a branch of the French company CiPeRe anyway. There is the R16 Shop in Holland, which in many cases is even more expensive than Der Franzose. To my knowledge no other companies catering for them exist, so success is directly related to your truffle piggishness to find what you need and that means hoping sellers on Leboncoin will respond, which they don't.

 

Simply put, being a complete lunatic is absolutely essential for running an R16 as a daily, as many R16 owners not doing that will attest.

[pshome]

Time for a Tagora!

[Junkman]

It's been time for a Tagora since 1980.

[D Spares & Tyres]

RHD starter access...

[Skizzer]

I think the answer is to cut off the entire front right quarter of the car with an angle grinder then weld it back on again after you’ve sorted the starter.

 

See, parallel universe.

[dollywobbler]

Does your's have the twin choke carby?

 

I used the 2CV clamp Chaseracer suggested, but any 48 mm so called French Clamp will do.

Except the expensive one from Der Franzose, which is too small.

 

Have fun finding a manifold gasket...

 

2CV clamps are 47mm or 49mm...

[Junkman]

RHD starter access...IMG_20181012_163021.jpg

 

That fucking sucks. And not just a little bit.

 

 

2CV clamps are 47mm or 49mm...

 

Yeah, 47mm. Anyway, the "47mm" one from Der Franzose is too small.

[doug]

Whot you need is these.

 

 

PM me if you want them.

 

 

[Eddie Honda]

Whilst flicking through the Renna manual, I did chortle at the dizzy clamp special tool...

 

[Junkman]

That tool is roughly as necessary as a goitre.

[Guest Hooli]

The Solex carbs were crap when these cars were current so fitting a Webber was always the first thing most people changed on them. When I had Renault 18's back in the late 80's I was always on the look out for Webber equipped cars in the breakers to swap. The only issue I had was finding air filter pipework as the Webbers would freeze up if you didn't run an air filter. It would be a pain on the motorway trying to make decent progress when the carb would ice up so you had to let it thaw out then set off again. The only thing worse than a Solex carb is a bloody Pierburg, we were swapping them for Webbers on Astra's at 2 years old due to wear.

Same as us ford fondlers back in the day binning VV carbs and fitting weber versions so our cars would work then.

[PhilA]

Whilst flicking through the Renna manual, I did chortle at the dizzy clamp special tool...

IMG_20181013_000732_970.jpg

Designed specifically to short out older spark plug wires to ground?

[chaseracer]

Franzose parts are overpriced, of shit quality and never fit, you should have learned that by now...

 

ECAS.

 

Always ECAS.

[Junkman]

Today we got it running pretty properly. Not totally perfectly, but the best I can do with my abilities.

Turns out the ignition was miles out as well.

 

So we took it on a test drive. It ran very well until it didn't. Upon arrival at home it ran like shit.

[3VOM]

Today we got it running pretty properly. Not totally perfectly, but the best I can do with my abilities.

Turns out the ignition was miles out as well.

 

So we took it on a test drive. It ran very well until it didn't. Upon arrival at home it ran like shit.

Distributor come loose?

[Junkman]

Do you think I'm a complete suitcase?

[Eddie Honda]

I blame those yellow headlamp bulbs...

[Skizzer]

ECAS.

 

Always ECAS.

Qu’est ce que c’est, ECAS? Is that another old French car parts supplier?

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

Accurate video of the timing being set:

 

[Junkman]

Okay, we have a serious problem now and I don't know any further.

 

I finally found the timing mark on the flywheel. When I adjust the ignition according to the mark, the engine runs absolutely shit.

Hence I adjusted it so that the engine runs okay, but the car just doesn't maintain a proper tickover. It's hunting left right and centre

and every time I get it to tick over acceptably, after the next flick of the throttle it's all over the place again.

I got it running as good as I can, took it out on a road test and it drove terribly.

[Guest Hooli]

If you time it to the mark will it run properly by adjusting the carb?

 

 

 

Or try putting a bagette & soft cheese in the glove box.

[Squire_Dawson]

I think you might have to get your hands dirty and check the timing marks on the crankshaft and camshaft sprockets.

[Junkman]

That can only have been written by someone who doesn't know how this works on an R16.

 

Besides, why does everyone automatically assume that Conrad and I are complete diddl mice?

A lot has to happen before we ask for advice.

[pshome]

when checking ingition: vacuum feed disconnected and hose closed? Mark maybe indicate top, correct setting is some degrees off, see engine maual

 

dancing ignition:  carb runs lean (or air leak) or points fucked (i shall not suggest the obvious to junkman: electronic ingition )

 

runs like shit: vacuum hose ok and connected?

No or not enough centrifugal advance: take distributor apart, clean and oil it..

 

i would start by setting carb a good deal richer and see if that makes a difference

[Squire_Dawson]

That can only have been written by someone who doesn't know how this works on an R16.

 

 

I don't understand how this works on FORRIN RUBBISH, no, but something is very much out of whack.

[Junkman]

when checking ingition: vacuum feed disconnected and hose closed? Mark maybe indicate top, correct setting is some degrees off, see engine maual

 

dancing ignition:  carb runs lean (or air leak) or points fucked (i shall not suggest the obvious to junkman: electronic ingition )

 

runs like shit: vacuum hose ok and connected?

No or not enough centrifugal advance: take distributor apart, clean and oil it..

 

i would start by setting carb a good deal richer and see if that makes a difference

 

So I have to rejet the carby.

Well, I actually wanted to drive the car again eventually.