Phooar Sayle, Foard Phocus W reg Tddddi L@@K old Escort engine innit

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Gold W reg Focus LX tddi diesel. That's the old 1.8 Escort engine. Rusty bits here and there (door inside corners etc) but not ugly. Clean inside.

 

Had a new clutch recently.

 

Think it's still MOT'd. Nothing special, usual steel wheeled misery spec.

 

But it doesn't start.Diesel pump buggered. Because old tddi, not a tdci type disaster but they've replaced it with an 04 tdci estate and the one is UP 4 GRABS.

 

Worth fuck all really, but the engine is sweet (no turbo problems) so may pull the engine out - it's 300 quid to a Transit Connect bod apparently.

 

I've told them to bridge it, collect 25 tokens and problem solved.

 

Anybody feel like giving 100 quid for it?

 

It's in Mansfield, Notts.

[Lacquer Peel]

I took on my aunt's Focus TDDI when it wouldn't start, the garage thought it was the fuel pump but cracking the injector unions showed it was pumping fuel to the injectors. I never got to the bottom of it, partly because it was the rustiest 10 year old car I'd ever seen.

Failure of pump electronics maybe? Looking at TDDI pumps on eBay, these have the crap Bosch VP44 but I think they can be repaired in situ.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Dunno. Garage seems to think the pump is NFG but once the sorry shitter is back, I reckon cranking it over whilst spraying easy start down its gullet might get it going.

[DVee8]

Ok for Felly except all wrong.

[Bren]

Had a mondeo with this lump - chain and not belt.

[sierraman]

Quick look on eBay says a used pump is £100. Is it a definite that the pumps fucked then or what?

[PiperCub]

I'd do what Lacquer Peel said, crack the injector/pipe unions and crank the engine to bleed them out. Done this on non-running boat engines to good effect in the past, in several cases the owners had been told 'Nah, the pump's knackered mate, you need a new one'.

 

You've nothing much to lose by trying this and will at least confirm you're getting fuel up. Once that's done, assuming glow plugs (if this motor has them - not familiar with them) are OK, bit of ether down the inlet and try again. 

[Guest Hooli]

Mate had one, the chain let go at 180k.

[CortinaDave]

These are hardy as feck. Mate had one go over 200k on its original chain.it looked like absolute vomit but returned 50 odd MPG and gave zero grief.

 

I had a very tidy Y plater 2 years back that was a brilliant car. Sadly for me the clutch went, and with impeding MOT to deal with as well it ended up bridged. I was genuinely gutted, it was lovely

[angle]

My girlfriend's dad has an 02 plate one, currently on 215k and climbing. It's had more windscreens than its had oil changes, it did about 60k between services last time I think. He's determined to make it last until he retires, which is another two years of Bristol to Hertfordshire and back twice a week...

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Crocus Tddi has a rubber toothed belt, not a chain. It's the old Escort engine.

 

It's not the engine from the Mondeo, the Corsair or the A60 Cambridge, and it ain't a tdci. That DOES have a chain because it's a different mill.

 

 

 

 

I've told matey to have an assistant crank it over with the fuel pipes cracked slightly whilst firing easy start up it. I reckon it'll start.

[Lacquer Peel]

I think the TDDI does have a cam chain but the fuel pump is belt driven, probably because the old 1.8D/TD shat timing belts for fun. Autodata confirms it.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

I think the TDDI does have a cam chain but the fuel pump is belt driven, probably because the old 1.8D/TD shat timing belts for fun. Autodata confirms it.

 

Close but no cigar. Chain from crank to diesel pump, belt from pump to cam. Yeah, that makes perfect sense!    

 

 

so it's not a Scrote engine at all.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I'm sure my old P100 truck had a timing belt on its shitty old diesel engine.

[Lacquer Peel]

Close but no cigar. Chain from crank to diesel pump, belt from pump to cam. Yeah, that makes perfect sense!    

 

 

so it's not a Scrote engine at all.

 

That makes sense*. I think it shares a block with the old 1.8D/TD but the head is different being direct injection, plus that stupid belt/chain setup.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

I'm sure my old P100 truck had a timing belt on its shitty old diesel engine.

 

That will be the legendary* 1.8 diesel from the Escourt. They arrived in '83, non turbo 1.6, bloody good engine as was the 1.8. Nice and simple. No MAF, no swirl flaps.

[warren t claim]

I'd try cracking the injectors and damp start trick as well because that worked on the diesel engine in my dad's old Maxi. Iirc though, that had gear driven cams.

[andrew e]

All this nostalgic talk off cracking off injectors has me weeping onto my favourite 11mm spanner. That an my Mrs making me get changed I the garden because I stunk of Eau du heavyoil.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

I'd try cracking the injectors and damp start trick as well because that worked on the diesel engine in my dad's old Maxi. Iirc though, that had gear driven cams.

 

YOU LIE.

 

 

The E Series diesel (ED) was common rail with a chain driven cam.

[twosmoke300]

You need to plug it in to confirm the pump death - it comes with its own set of communication codes . These are actually more expensive to fix when they die than the tdci