GR8 4 A-FRAMIN'!

[pompei]

Is that where the owl's getting in?

[Lord Sterling]

Great that you made it Mr_Bo11ox, where is Bo11ox Museum then, in Belguim or France?

[michiel]

Crack -> needs a couple of kilos of filler, or some welding?There's a map on page 1 Lord S!

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Crack is non-structural! Just like having a rusty wheelarch but in house form.

[retrogeezer]

and adds to the character!

[Ratdat]

Crack is non-structural! Just like having a rusty wheelarch but in house form.

Just wag it up with some P40

[andrew e]

Dirt cheap, from the manufacturers, post and vatinclusive - must be feeling the crunch at £225 all in

 

Buy one and lend it to me!

 

[pogweasel]

Good value!

[Talbot]

Somebody (in fact two people) informed me on Saturday that A framing/dollying cars (unless it is strictly in recovery of a broken-down vehicle) is technically illegal. Sounds bollocks to me - is it true, or is it just that the car to be towed has to have Mot, Tax etc?

Grey area. Technically it'd be illegal simply because it's over the weight limit for an unbraked trailer. The towed car should really be T&T and insured too I'd imagine. Any vehicle on the road should be taxed even if it's parked so it'd be no different on an A frame. Not that trivialities such as these deter the hardcore A framers

Just need to quote this for truth. The issue of overweight for an unbraked trailer is the most important factor here. If you remove the number plates from the car being towed, then it's a trailer, and need not have tax/ticket, but does have to be under 750kg (which is almost impossible)

[Father Ted]

Somebody (in fact two people) informed me on Saturday that A framing/dollying cars (unless it is strictly in recovery of a broken-down vehicle) is technically illegal.

 

Sounds bollocks to me - is it true, or is it just that the car to be towed has to have Mot, Tax etc?

Grey area. Technically it'd be illegal simply because it's over the weight limit for an unbraked trailer. The towed car should really be T&T and insured too I'd imagine. Any vehicle on the road should be taxed even if it's parked so it'd be no different on an A frame. Not that trivialities such as these deter the hardcore A framers

Just need to quote this for truth. The issue of overweight for an unbraked trailer is the most important factor here. If you remove the number plates from the car being towed, then it's a trailer, and need not have tax/ticket, but does have to be under 750kg (which is almost impossible)

Then if you get pulled just say you are recovering a mate who has broken down on his way to get an MOT - simple eh?

[r.welfare]

But surely a switched-on Plod will then demand the phone number of the MOT station at which said mate has pre-booked his test...?

[Talbot]

Indeed. Also the "recovery" aspect of towing allows you to move the vehicle to a place of safety only, IE from the road into a layby, or off the motorway onto the hard shoulder.

[Father Ted]

Indeed. Also the "recovery" aspect of towing allows you to move the vehicle to a place of safety only.

Cant think of anywhere safer than my driveway, officer, to re-install the missing engine. No risk of being hit by rogue truckers mashed up on Pro-Plus and Expresso's. Richard, I take your point, but it would have to be a very slow afternoon for plod to want to do that surely?

[r.welfare]

Agree - you'd have to be unlucky. Interestingly, whenever I go to/from Bradford for work, between Sheffield and Nottingham on the M1 I see a lot of damaged stuff being trailered or towed - must be a salvage auction nearby. More than once I've seen A-frames in action...including a Micra A-framing a rather dented Avensis

[dieselnutjob]

I guess you can't A frame an automatic car far though

and if it's rear wheel drive could you put the back end on a dolly?

otherwise it's a transporter or trailer

[whitevanman]

and if it's rear wheel drive could you put the back end on a dolly?[/img]

or disconect the propshaft from the axle and tie it out the way

[dieselnutjob]

not easy on rear wheel drive Peugeots due to the torque tube arrangementyou have to either move the diff back or the engine forward

[whitevanman]

not easy on rear wheel drive Peugeots due to the torque tube arrangementyou have to either move the diff back or the engine forward

AHHH... I didn't know that

[dieselnutjob]

best pic I can find

inside the tube there is a solid prop shaft that's splined into the diff at one end and the back of the gearbox at the other

[whitevanman]

well I never realised Pugs had torque tubes.as I live and learn

[dieselnutjob]

I heard a story that they are the only two wheel drive that the local police will alloy into the sahara desert. apparently the torque tube gives them better traction in sand and stuff.I can't remember where I heard it and it could be guffThey certainly won a lot of rallies in Africa with them though

[Volksy]

I guess with the prop being pretty much a sealed unit, rather than having open UV joints, it will last a hell of a lot longer in sandy conditions.

[gurnsimps]

Had a new exhaust fitted to My van and had to leave the van there for it to be fitted,The guys face when I turned up in the imp to collect and bolted it onto the back of the van was priceless!