405 - Feed Me

[Pillock]

According to the Haynes BOL there's a perm live going to the door lock control unit on a brown plug, and another to the IR control box on a black plug.

 

[The Moog]

I thought the same as you. One plug is feed from IR (which ihave tapped into with new box) and other plug is activated when key turns.

 

Only other electrics are windows and feed for electric mirrors which are switched.

 

Cheers. I think I am going to attempt the cig lighter. Central locking control unit is tucked in the dash and IR is rusted to buggery.

[The Moog]

As a quick win for tomorrow I think might try this

 

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductMobileDisplay?catalogId=10151&storeId=10001&productId=191656&categoryId=255229&langId=-1

[Noel Tidybeard]

you need to look for the numbers not colours on the wires on a poojoe- so you need B151 or B152

[forddeliveryboy]

Sort of related, an old Xantia's fans packed up yonks ago and it turned out to be an excess of dust in the housings. I ground off the rivets and removed them motors, blowing away all the muck. Once tacked back in with a little weld, they were fine.

 

I agree, the wiring on these things is more complex than Saturn V. Probably easy to understand once you do, as with all things.

[KruJoe]

Hey Moog, you're now in that there Lancashire with a vegetarian 405, right?

 

We're just over the hill from you (30 mins?) and have a special offer on WVO. Will has surplus stock of 200 litres, make him an offer!

[The Moog]

Ok sort of reached an impasse.

 

After taking 12v from lighter I then had to work out how to feed the drivers door. Originally I thought that I could feed two wires through the door grommet but that is a no go. Instead I stripped back the IR sensor in the roof to use the connections there.

 

Issue I have got is that the new box sends out a 12v pulse to lock and unlock doors. I am using green and blue going from the box to the roof mounted sensor.

 

System that is already in the 405 instead grounds it. So if I ground the feeds in IR sensor it will lock and unlock no problem

 

Is there anyway to make these compatible? Am I being dense?

 

I am at a point with half a car dismantled that I will do pretty much anything to get it working.

[The Moog]

Cheers Joe. Will drop him a pm once I get this finished.

[The Moog]

This currently how it is set up. I need to change it so that rather than sending 12v from remote unit, I need it to ground briefly. 

 

EDIT: Is it because I have got a complete kit? Therefore it will automatically be positive because it comes with all the actuators?

[mat_the_cat]

Do I understand you right - you want to use the control box from the kit with the existing actuators?

 

Something like this has the option of a negative or positive trigger, but the Chinglish instructions may not be immediately clear!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kit-Car-Remote-Control-Central-Entry-Door-Lock-Locking/121408396049

 

Or, you could use a relay to switch the positive pulse to a negative one. Earth to terminal 30 and 85, pulsed positive to 85, and a pulsed negative will be present on terminal 87.

[The Moog]

I hadn't intended to but because I could run a cable through the door I have to tap into it.

 

For £9 might as well buy a kit like that.

[The Moog]

Kit bought and now fitted. Took a while especially with chinglish instructions.

 

Took the positive feed from back of the l lighter socket. The control box now lives where the ashtray was.

[The Moog]

Today the pug decided to show me why it was smoking at start up, by pissing veg oil all over the engine.

 

But the automotive gods decided to show me mercy by making it a cracked leak off stopper.

 

Got a spare in the garage so once it cools down will lob it on and jobs a good un. I love fixing simple things 😊

[stuboy]

my mates 405 he got from his bil with goosed engine, engine changed, no drive gearbox goosed, change gearbox, the 6 months later rear beam was goosed.. he love it and sound of the turbo whistling....

[The Moog]

After couple of months the fan relays are borked again. Power is going to them but the comedy placement means they are rusting already.

 

I am going to try relocating the relays if I get a free weekend. I have bought some cheap plastic boxes that I can fit them in, which will hopefully waterproof them.

[forddeliveryboy]

Today the pug decided to show me why it was smoking at start up, by pissing veg oil all over the engine.

 

But the automotive gods decided to show me mercy by making it a cracked leak off stopper.

 

Got a spare in the garage so once it cools down will lob it on and jobs a good un. I love fixing simple things

 

Try and clean off the veg, it dries onto everything and makes a real mess. My first veg burning 124 looked like it had been badly schutzed, under the bonnet. Difficult to remove without a big struggle and lots of time, once caked on.

[The Moog]

Spent half an hour fixing the fans for the third time. One of the relays had died. Swapped it for another and tried to weather proof them using a set of pound shop boxes.

 

Seems to have worked and I am mega impressed. Wont make it 100% waterproof but will definitely keep the worst of.

[vulgalour]

That looks like a terrible solution, aesthetically, but providing they don't overheat inside the tupperware* I bet it proves to be a fantastic solution.

[The Moog]

I live in Accrington, anything bursting into flames is instantly smothered by the ever present rain

 

Properly stupid place to put fan relays, right at the front of the car so as to capture maximum rain.