Motorcycling - Current Chinese Shite v. Older Japanese Shite

[gtd2000]

Ive seen those, also on my radar is the Sym Symba - a local bike dealer has one in at £1200 new on the road. The seat puts me off a bit though - and trying to find a bench seat in the UK seems impossible. The Kayak Cub clones at £900 seem a bit better value. Plus they would probably* take an XY engine if the original one goes pop.

 

I'm sure you could get this to fit?

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/motorcycle-DY100-cushion-110-Cub-saddle-seat-sit-sun-10090-package-assembly/32418309478.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.9.wxbBML&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10152_10065_10151_10130_10068_10344_10345_10342_10343_10340_10341_10192_10540_10190_10307_10301_10303_10060_10155_10154_10056_10055_10054_10539_10538_10537_10059_10536_10534_10533_100031_10099_10103_10102_5590020_10052_5640020_10053_10107_10050_10142_10051_10324_10325_10084_10083_5370020_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10179_10312_10313_10314_10184_10078_10079_10073,searchweb201603_2,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=aa7f3b72-2665-4b8b-99ce-9825f4238ef4&algo_expid=70d09f4f-d1a4-48c0-bb74-233444a11144-1&algo_pvid=70d09f4f-d1a4-48c0-bb74-233444a11144

[UltraWomble]

I think that's what some people consider to be a cheaper MSX?

 

Still way too much money for a cheap Chinese bike in my opinion.

 

If it was around £1000 then perhaps...

Those Yamasakis are just over a bag new - I imagine in a year or so half that will pick one up then lob in a bigger Chinese donk and CDi and I imagine it would be just as much fun as an MSX ( which was OK, but a bit over rated).

 

I might have another look at that Sym - that seat looks like it would probably fit OK.

[gtd2000]

Those Yamasakis are just over a bag new - I imagine in a year or so half that will pick one up then lob in a bigger Chinese donk and CDi and I imagine it would be just as much fun as an MSX ( which was OK, but a bit over rated).

 

I might have another look at that Sym - that seat looks like it would probably fit OK.

 

Do you have a link for the Yamasakis?

 

From my experience of the Chinese cloned cub (which has been very reliable) I'd go for the Sym based on build quality and finish. If you were talking £500 for a Chinese clone vs £1300 for the Sym, I'd choose the Chinese cub but it's much closer than that.

 

There's a picture on the net of an American Symba with a tan coloured one piece double seat.

 

You could also check out the saddles for the Cubs over at mini bie craze like this one if you want something "cooler" looking:

 

[gtd2000]

I'm on the lookout for a cheap used one of these little things:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vok3TCMmJqg

[UltraWomble]

Do you have a link for the Yamasakis?

 

 

You could also check out the saddles for the Cubs over at mini bie craze like this one if you want something "cooler" looking:

 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-2017-Yamasaki-YM50R-MONSTER-50cc-moped-scooter-motorbike-grom-/192036032755?hash=item2cb63d50f3:g:vvQAAOSwpkFY7iYd

 

Nah, just something for my fat arse that lets me sit a bit further back than the single seat does

[UltraWomble]

I'm on the lookout for a cheap used one of these little things:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vok3TCMmJqg

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2017-SS50-retro-1960-s-1970s-moped-50cc-motorcycle-/192123488942?hash=item2cbb73caae:g:4K4AAOSwTuJYvwjz

[gtd2000]

I should really say one that's about £400 or less ????

[gtd2000]

Then bang in a 140cc motor!

[MarvinsMom]

odd ball jap would be my thing, the odder the better.

 

Super cub in Postman Pat-san spec

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Honda-MD90-Japanese-Post-Office-bike/272847554861?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D31f86ed1ffa64f91870478dc95714ce9%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D322739476554&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042

 

and from the same seller, well this "thing"

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-Honda-Bite-50/272727404839?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D31f86ed1ffa64f91870478dc95714ce9%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D322739476554&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042

 

or this, if that is too odd-ball for you,cos i like the colour and the wee basket on the front.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1995-JDM-Honda-Super-Cub-C90-Deluxe/272814800678?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D31f86ed1ffa64f91870478dc95714ce9%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D322739476554&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042

 

cos after a production run of 100,000,000 and counting, there must be something very right about the Super Cub.

 

i also know nothing about motorcycling, cos i cannot ride a motorbike, but i know what i like.

[gtd2000]

must have imagined it then.

(((Goes off to search bumtree)))

Of course if you simply must experience some high adrenaline Rider's Super Cub action, we could always have a chat about that old CT of yours?

[UltraWomble]

CT???

(((puzzled)))

 

EDIT - comes back from googling - thats Mr S Angel who has one of those...

[gtd2000]

Did you not have a CT110?

[gtd2000]

Old age is finally catching up with me I guess...

[UltraWomble]

Nah, not me - must be some other Womble - I did have a Z50R clone with 110 engine but thats gone now.

[gtd2000]

Nah, not me - must be some other Womble - I did have a Z50R clone with 110 engine but thats gone now.

 

Sent you a message about your Mobylette,

[UltraWomble]

Giving very very serious thoughts to one of these:

But for the same price I can have one of these...

 

The Sym however will fit in my shed, will be able to share some components with the Super Cub and probably will be a bit more of a giggle to ride down a muddy track.

 

The Daelim though will be faster and more comfortable.

[strangeangel]

Hmmmmmm. The Daelim will be all modern and quicker and everything - and there's nothing wrong with Daelims at all - but given that choice I'd take the Symba. Can I offer any logical reason to back that decision up? No.

 

Soz.

[gtd2000]

Not much of a choice when you consider there's no difference in price. Were both going for around £1300? Sounds like that might be cheaper than some of the Chinese offerings these days.

[wuvvum]

I appear to have bought a knackered Lexmoto.  Hmmm.

[gtd2000]

Which model of Lexmoto did you buy? Other than some issues with headlamp bulbs mine has been pretty good. Still fires up on the original three year old battery after sitting in the cold damp shed over winter. Gutless engine I have to admit but fine for the B roads.

[wuvvum]

It's an XTR 125 - it's a "sports" bike, although I imagine a CBR / YZF 125 would leave it for dead.

 

[Guest Hooli]

Looks like a CBR125 clone, at least around the headlights. I used to know a tiny lass who could get 82mph out of hers!

[gtd2000]

Yeah I think it is a bit of an homage to the CBR. Some folks on the Lexmoto Facebook page seem to suggest that some of the parts can be swapped/fitted.

[PiperCub]

It's an XTR 125 - it's a "sports" bike, although I imagine a CBR / YZF 125 would leave it for dead.

 

That's a good looking bike. Like a modern update of the old RD125LC.

 

What does it ride/go like?

[Dave_Q]

Well it's a 4 stroke 125, so at a guess it will whip 90% of cyclists off the lights, and reel the rest in by 20-30mph before heading on to a top speed of between 50 and 70 depending on the size of the riders bottom.

[martc]

 I used to know a tiny lass who could get 82mph out of hers!

 There are several Fizzy owners who make similar claims.

[Guest Hooli]

 There are several Fizzy owners who make similar claims.

 

Thing is I could confirm her claim as I was riding in the same group on a RF600. Slightest headwind & she was down to 65-70 though.

[AMC Rebel]

 There are several Fizzy owners who make similar claims.

 

Are you trying to say an FS1E can't do a ton?

[DodgeRover]

Will absolutely hit the ton in kph down Slack Hill nr Matlock

[gtd2000]

I've had an indicated 78mph out of the Lexmoto ZSB down hill. Probably closer to 70mph though. My old Suzuki GP100 showed an indicated 82mph once. Unfortunately my fizzy would only show 56mph down the same hill as the GP100.