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Just a quick one. Can I be even more of a miserly skinflint and stick veg oil in my ASV-engined Seat? It's the older TDI, not a fancy-pants PD engine.

Plenty of websites say yay, but none of those are beige. I only trust beige websites.

 

Figured I might as well try it whilst there's a set of injectors and a diesel pump sat here!

Posted

Non-PDi will be fine on vege.

Posted

Win!

 

Anywhere selling cheap at the minute? What sort of diesel-veg percentage mix is it safe to use? Do I literally just pour it out the bottle into the tank?

Guest Len H
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I say yay. Lots of people on the vegetableoildiesel.co.uk forum run these on oil without any issues.

 

The rotary pump TDi has a pre-combustion chamber for fuel like an indirect injection engine, so there's less chance of unburnt veg oil being injected into the cylinder walls and causing OMG MELTDOWN.

 

A 90% mix should be fine at this time of year.

 

Still, keep an eye on the quality and level of engine oil and don't allow the engine to idle on veg for a long time.

 

Apparently Bookers is quite cheap for oil, but not amazingly so - £1.09p/l

Posted

Wouldn't go 100% veg. Even when it's summer hot (which it doesn't seem to be at the moment) 80% veg 20% dino is probably best from what I've read, and you might want to ease it in. Be prepared to change fuel filters a lot at first too as the veg tends to flush all sorts of crap out of the fuel system. Still worth doing, if only for the chip shop smell!

Guest Len H
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Cold starts on a strong veg mix are the killer.

100% would be fine if you're planning a long journey and not cold starting the engine on it.

If you can get over the strangeness of putting vegetable oil, then petrol in a diesel fuel tank, petrol is a good thinner and you don't have to use as much of it.

 

Information overload.

Posted

Right, so as long as I never let it go right down to empty and then put only veg in, I should be fine if I'm sensible? Occasional dizzle fillups etc, put veg in when it's half full of diesel etc etc.

I'll just do it when I see Veg cheap in t'supermarket I suppose

 

Oh, and something that's just come from my facebook status - if my mate is running his TDCI Focus on veg, that's going to go boom right?

Posted

I'm sorry to hijack your thread, but it seems pointless starting a new one...

 

Can I put veg in my Astra?

 

It's a '95N, not sure if it's a TD or a TDS (what's the difference?)

Guest Len H
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Yeah Mk3 Astra TDs are great on veg oil, Isuzu and GM engines alike.

 

Pillock, you can't go too far wrong as those engines are highly suited to veg use.

Ford TDCi is a common rail engine, that's going to bin a high pressure pump soon.

Posted

S'what I thought on the Focus. The amusing thing is, it's his company car. And he works with me. And our boss is on my facebook.

I suspect there's going to be a chat tomorrow as I've just let slip he's turned it into a ticking time bomb :)

Posted
Ford TDCi is a common rail engine, that's going to bin a high pressure pump soon.

So likewise, PSA 2.0HDi is a veg-free zone too...? :?:

Posted

I think you might be ok with an HDi on actual Biodiesel - the actual processed stuff - though I think Citroen still only agree to a 30% bio/dino mix for warranty purposes.

Posted

Everyone is different, I ran a BX on 100% vege oil come rain or shine. In the winter I'd bung a small-medium percent of dizzler in and never had a minutes trouble. In fact the car ran better and faster on the stuff.

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