254575 Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Guten Tag. I recently picked up this fine piece of german engineering. however, i am finding it difficult to identify the connector on the back. can any of you knowledgeable fellows assist? it looks similar to mid 80's rover, but its not
autofive Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 i usually use single crimp connections for this sort of thing the speaker plugs should be easily available though
lovejoy Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 the four speaker outputs at the top would accept a standard DIN plug (4 seperate ones) which are circular, with one flat blade and another round pin at 90 degrees to it.Knowing the quality of Blaupunkt though, I do'nt doubt they made a special moulded plug to fit all four in one go.What is the model # of the unit ?
retrogeezer Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Yeh, that will just be spade connectors for live & earth, the smaller ones will be a permanent live and poss an electric aerial connector as there was one n my bluebird. Speaker plugs along the top row and job's a goodun.
Station Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 I had the same thing on my Rover 213 for the speakers. Can't recognise that multiplug bit though? Maybe Porsche or Mercedes?
Rusty Pelican Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 IIRC The first large spade is earth ( nearest the edge }, second is permanent live , first small one next to it is switched live for an aerial .
trigger Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 I'm sure that stereo was standard fit to Mercedes cars during the 80's?.
Negative Creep Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 IIRC The first large spade is earth ( nearest the edge }, second is permanent live , first small one next to it is switched live for an aerial . Going by these pictures Earth is indeed on the right, then 2 switched lives, remote lead, permanent live
254575 Posted March 1, 2011 Author Posted March 1, 2011 Http://www.jrussbeauchamp.com/item.php?id=2390 Here is a link to the model. The problem I seem to have is that all wiring looms are whatever that is called to iso not iso to that
Negative Creep Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 What type of connections does it have in the car? From memory that adaptor works with the older Rover 200s and Metros so I presume the Maestro would be the same
mk2_craig Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Hey, I had one of those back in the day. Could never get more than 2 of the 4 speakers working though. These are the connectors you need: On the bay of E
ashmicro Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 What Craig said. I had one of those head units in an old Golf, and those speaker connectors are common to old 80's HiFi's.
Pete-M Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Guten Tag. I recently picked up this fine piece of german engineering. however, i am finding it difficult to identify the connector on the back. can any of you knowledgeable fellows assist? it looks similar to mid 80's rover, but its not Top four are speakers as others have stated. Lower four (from left) are memory live / elec aerial trigger / live / earth. I can't remember for certain which one is memory and which is trigger, but they're the two on the left. If you connect the main live to the second from right, and the earth to either the radio case or the earth connection, then one will be live with radio switched on (to send t'aerial up) and the other is for the radio memory. Sorry it's a bit vague, but it's been a while since I did one. Same wiring as the Blaupunkts fitted to early 80's Fords.
254575 Posted March 1, 2011 Author Posted March 1, 2011 What type of connections does it have in the car? From memory that adaptor works with the older Rover 200s and Metros so I presume the Maestro would be the same Yeah, I don't think I explained myself very well. The car I want to put it in has an iso loom. So I was hoping a female iso to 80's loom existed. Otherwise those speaker cables are a good start, but finding the right size spade size for power/earth might be tricky
Pete-M Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 What type of connections does it have in the car? From memory that adaptor works with the older Rover 200s and Metros so I presume the Maestro would be the same Yeah, I don't think I explained myself very well. The car I want to put it in has an iso loom. So I was hoping a female iso to 80's loom existed. Otherwise those speaker cables are a good start, but finding the right size spade size for power/earth might be tricky Standard Lucar insulated jobs are perfect Blue for larger ones, red for the dinky jobs.
Negative Creep Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 The one in the car will be a male ISO so the adaptor posted on the last page would work
mk2_craig Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 IIRC The first large spade is earth ( nearest the edge }, second is permanent live , first small one next to it is switched live for an aerial . Going by these pictures Earth is indeed on the right, then 2 switched lives, remote lead, permanent live This would be used to convert, say, the original 4-speaker (non-joystick) stereo in a 1980s Sierra to ISO plugs for a contemporary CD player. What is required is effectively the inverse of the above harness. I can't find one, although 'repair looms' for 1990s Fords are available on Ebay. However it would be quite straightforward to create your own using 4 of the speaker cables on the previous page and a bit of trial and error working out which of the grey/white/green/purple cables you would need to connect them to.
mk2_craig Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 And if you wanted to do a pukka job: Female ISO connector kit Good luck!
254575 Posted March 4, 2011 Author Posted March 4, 2011 thanks for all the help guys, I have found a female ISO to bare wire harness in my collection, so i will create a frankenloom at some point this weekend!
scooters Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 I had this model fitted to a 240 Volvo GLT - I think they were offered as an option by Volvo during the mid 80s if you didn't want the Volvo one - it is eactly the same and that was a factory fitted one
mk2_craig Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 Today I refitted a period Ford Self Seek rad/cass back into my XR2: Previous owner had butchered the wiring loom to buggery and beyond so I spent some time repairing it using some offcuts from a scrap Sierra GL: In this case, from left to right: brown (large spade) = 12v negative/earth, yellow (large spade) = 12v ignition live, blank (small spade) but I believe on a Ford is normally grey/yellow for illumination i.e. dims the display at night, red/white (small spade) = 12v output for electric aerial etc, red (small spade) = 12v permanent live. Just two speaker connectors on this one for Left and Right channels, the XR2 like a lot of mid-late 1980s Fords has the separately mounted joystick balance control although I have bypassed it as I'm convinced it reduces the already iffy sound quality even further. Any help?
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