RUSTMASTER..Anyone know anything about them?

[Lankytim]

VZi Have managed to "blag" an offer from a rust proofing company called RUSTMASTER (http://www.rustmaster.co.uk)- 20% off their full car rust proofing process.

 

I've read about them in various mags, one being Practical Classics where a couple of staff writers have had their vehicles treated. They rave about the result, which I guess they would do if it was a freebee in exchange for advertising or something! The Allegro is nearing the end of a very thorough body restoration and respray. I really don't want to go to all that expense again so i'm seriously considering booking it for a dose of cavity wax e.t.c. I have been quoted £336 plus VAT after the discount, so quite a tidy sum- although £336 wont go far in terms of welding and bodywork!

 

The Maestro may well get pushed into everyday motoring soon, but the unwelded, unrusty underside will soon get munched away by road salt and the weather. I'd feel much less guilty if it were protected from the elements somehow!

 

Does anyone have any real life experience of this outfit? Does the treatment stop the car going rotten? I have owned plenty of old chod where previous rust proofing treatments haven't really prevented rust and have actually made things worse by hiding rust and allowing moisture to creep around unseen.

 

Should I raid the piggy bank or simply spray with used engine oil every few months?

[scooters]

Mates have used them they are excellent.

[Timewaster]

I've never heard of them, but this reminded of a mates Escort van, as rusty as a fishermans bucket with a "ZIEBART rust protected" sticker in the window.

[The Moog]

I did my carlsson with them. Fantastic blokes. I stayed and watched them do it. Very happy for me to have a look round the whole car. Was good to see after they had pressure washed it underneath, showed how solid the car is.

 

I cant recommend them highly enough.

[Lankytim]

The pressure washing bit worries me slightly, surely that would just ram moisture into every seam, where it stays forever after being sealed in by waxoyl?

 

A google search doesn't really provide that much info, although many people seem to think products like Dinitrol is much better than Waxoyl, which is what Rustmaster uses. Surely a waxy rust proofer is a waxy rust proofer?

 

I have found a rust proofing specialist locally that uses Dinitrol, they are quite a bit cheaper than Rustmaster too.

[scooters]

Dinatrol is very good stuff. Rustmaster are agents for waxoyl but the stuff they use bears little relation to what you get in halfords. They use the professional grade stuff thats similar to dinatrol. Ie they use it on ships etc. It's not available to the public.

[The Moog]

It was more of a steam clean underneath. I think that for my carlsson it was £350 odd quid. For that you get a long guarantee and you can take it back each year if you wish. He did say that after 5 years come back and they will look at it all. If anything needs touching up it is FOC. They have been doing it for over 6 years so they were seeing the first cars they had done back and they were saying how well the coating stands up to it.

 

They do everything from Merc SL's to Massive motorhomes. The Waxoyl is certainly hardcore stuff and not the tins you get in halfords.

[Hertz]

I used them in January this year when they were in Newcastle Under Lyme, they have moved to Knutsford now it seems.

 

They did a very good job on my Alpine A610 ( a plastic car I hear you say, all underneath is metal and very rust prone though). There is the usual black stuff and also a clear waxoil which is very useful for inside cavities. I recommend them highly

[Lankytim]

Hey, Hertz in Sandbach, I work near Sandbach! Great place. Anyway, they haven't moved, they have opened up a northern branch. Nice and handy it is too!

[scooters]

Lots of rustproofers out there. What impresses me about these guys is the warranty you get.

 

I mean a carlsson is a proper classic. The peace of mind this would give you is key. I think Sam g may have had his barkas done by them and reviewed in pc a couple of years back.

 

When the sherpa is properly sorted I will get them to do it...see how brave they are with the warranty!

[Mr Lobster]

There was a feature on them in Retro Cars a few months back. It certainly looks impressive enough though and I wouldn't have thought its a particularly bad investment tbh.

[Lankytim]

Just had another quote from a local firm that specialises in rust prevention for cars, http://www.car-rustproofing.co.uk

 

Allegro - £315.00 (Rustmaster price- £336 before VAT)

Audi 100- £400.00 (Rustmaster price- £376 before VAT)

Maestro- £315.00 (Rustmaster price- £336 before VAT)

 

Thats all-in including VAT. If I have all 3 cars done they'll knock 15% off too (can't afford all three to be done though!)

 

I have no idea about this firm but they do have pictures of vintage cars on their website so must be reputable. Apparently they use DINITROL for their treatment, which i've heard many good things about, many rating it more highly that Waxoyl. The treatment routine seems to be pretty much identical to Rustmaster as far as I can see but for quite a bit less money. They offer the same 5 years guarantee too. Best of all they company is just around the corner!

[Tayne]

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[euphonic]

Hi guys, This my first posting on here as i noticed this thread about rustmaster, being an old thread i hope someone reads what i want to say.

 

I contacted this company in december about having one of my cars, an mx5 2004, rustproofed and was quoted £440+ vat which i thought was rather expensive, although there was a special offer, as the knutsford branch had recently opened, of £50 less if you made a booking before jan.

 

This still seems expensive, compared with some prices quoted on here. The main thing that concerned me was the fact that the process was done in about 4 hours, start to finish and as mentioned by others on here, how does the car dry in this time, before the waxoil is applied? it looks like a thorough job when you view the site but i have not yet made a booking and wondered if anyone has had it done recently and if so what are your opinions.

 

Another company i contacted want the car for 3 days, i won't mention them by name as this is my first post, but i have no connection with them.What they do is pressure clean the car and dry in a hot air room, specially used for this purpose,overnight , and do the cavity injections, under sealing and anything else the day after.If anyone can offer an opinion i would be pleased to hear, Thanks and regards, Doug

[Lankytim]

I'd imagine drying the car thoroughly must be better than applying wax over the top! Please mention the company involved...

 

Oh, and welcome!

[dollywobbler]

Isn't the wax meant to drive the water out? That might be utter rubbish. I certainly don't personally rate Waxoyl but have had good proofing with Bilt Hamber products. No, every waxy protection thing is not equal.

[euphonic]

Thanks for the welcome, i am a classic fan too by the way.The company i mentioned is called chassis clean and they are based in Altrincham, nr.Manchester, they only do 2 cars per week as the firm is owned by a farmer who only employs one operative, they have a good reputation on several other forums,but are not cheap , i guess you get what you pay for sometimes.Have a look at their website www.chassisclean.co.uk i think, Doug

[euphonic]

Isn't the wax meant to drive the water out? That might be utter rubbish. I certainly don't personally rate Waxoyl but have had good proofing with Bilt Hamber products. No, every waxy protection thing is not equal.

 

The waxoyl used by rustmaster is a professional trade type,not like the one you can buy, they 're the only user of this product in the country, the site says.The problem with any type of sealant used under the car ,is it has to be applied to a dry surface or it holds the water that is there and rusts unnoticed!! chassis clean use dinitrol.

[The Moog]

When I had the carlsson done they steam cleaned it all underneath and all arches etc. They didnt dry it before applying it but the spray they use is ultra fine and so didnt need it.

 

Honestly I didnt worry that the car needed drying first. The bloke doing it knew his stuff and talked me through the whole process. He did tell me that they do offers twice a year to reduce the price a bit. For the amount of work involved I thought that it was well worth the cash.

[ashmicro]

What he ^ said. Get it dry, properly. Loads of blokes round here back in the day were "rustproofing" their mark 3 Escorts etc by pressure washing the car first, and then whacking on a gallon of Waxoyl. less than a year later the arse was hanging out of most of them.

[euphonic]

I like to do as much research as possible before committing myself to anything, being far from an expert about very much!! There seem to be quite a few companies doing rustproofing and rustmaster and chassis clean are only about 20 miles from me so that's why they are of interest.

 

A few years go,before i had a computer, i owned a mini cooper and could not find anyone to rustproof it for me, i'm surprised how many modern cars are being done now, the MX5 is a good example, as since Ford became involved with Mazda, the build quality has gone down hill.The mk1 models seem to last better than the later mk2 and 2.5, i have even read ,on the owners club site ,that even a few mk3 models are rusting slightly and they only came out in 2005,although these are covered by the warranty.Mine is excellent underneath as it is a weekender with only 18k and i hope to keep it rust free, as i plan to keep the car long term, so i want the best process i can have done.

 

Doug

[Guest]

My Delta was dinitroled and still looked mint when I sold it 17 years later. Highly recommended

[euphonic]

My Delta was dinitroled and still looked mint when I sold it 17 years later. Highly recommended

My car is in for dinitrol treatment,full job being done over 3 days, i hope it lasts as long as yours did!!

[CreepingJesus]

Out of experience as a car valeter, I can say this; if the steam cleaning is done properly, with a big diesel powered machine, the fine mist and high temperature should make drying out a cinch. If done in a warm environment, it'll be dry in minutes.