Porsche 924 Scheiße - understanding why people fit carbs...

[N Dentressangle]

41 minutes ago, Surface Rust said:

Probably would work, but what about this one, someone is actually happy to put their name on it!

https://ebay.us/m/mDOirX

 

Good find, thanks - I've ordered one.

[N Dentressangle]

Cooling system now sorted:

Radiator cleaned and painted

Fan cleaned and tested

All jubilee clips tight and working

All hoses in the right place

New Gates thermostat fitted, all mating surfaces cleaned and a new seal installed

Expansion tank clamp fitted correctly

New rubber mountings fitted to airbox and expansion tank

All corroded fixings replaced

[N Dentressangle]

After much puzzling and ordering of parts, some cheap and some not so cheap, we now have a working handbrake.

Luckily the handle and yoke came with the car, and are much easier to fit if you take the driver's seat out first:

 

Pretty sure that's a Mk1 Golf handbrake. So much of this car is VW, it makes life a lot easier. Plus VW made some of their best stuff in the 70's, so it's not exactly an issue. Imagine if they'd been pillaging from the BL parts bin 😉

There's a long threaded rod on this end of the cable which screws into a yoke which hooks onto the handbrake lever. Very simple set-up. The other end is equally basic. Here I think they robbed Beetle bits:

That shiny silver bit on the backplate is a Beetle part and it's what stops the handbrake sheath being drawn into the drum. No need for those stupidly expensive tubes I bought after all. Bollocks. Might return them for a refund tbh - they were 40 quid! The cable has a hook on the end which engages with a lever in the drum.

I topped it all off with the grommets you can see. There are 4 each side - 2 special ones covering the brake shoe adjuster holes, and 2 plain ones covering the brake lining inspection holes. All mine were missing, obvs.

I adjusted the shoes up first so that they brushed the drum slightly. The cable then needed very little adjustment at the lever, and we have locked wheels after about 3 clicks.

The yellow drums? They had to go, sorry

Attacked with the wire brush on the grinder then a coat of high temperature black. I'll torque the hub nut up and put the split pin in once I'm sure I don't need to go in there again. Happy days.

[N Dentressangle]

Managed to pick up a nice brown leather interior:

Snag is it's in Retford.

Anyone heading vaguely south west from there at some point soon who might have room for front and rear seats please?

[MrBig]

Rear brakes are pure Beetle except for the wheel stud pattern on the drum. When I had one of each I was amazed at the similarities. Even the suspension arms and bushes on the back are the same.

[N Dentressangle]

3 minutes ago, MrBig said:

Rear brakes are pure Beetle except for the wheel stud pattern on the drum. When I had one of each I was amazed at the similarities. Even the suspension arms and bushes on the back are the same.

Brilliant - I did think those arms looked familiar from somewhere 😄

[robt100]

1 hour ago, N Dentressangle said:

Managed to pick up a nice brown leather interior:

Snag is it's in Retford.

Anyone heading vaguely south west from there at some point soon who might have room for front and rear seats please?

I'm 15mins from Retford, so if they need picking up from the seller I'm happy to hold them in the (dry) shed until someone is heading that way? I'm heading down towards Cambridge next week, but its to go on holiday, not sure I'd have the room in the BMW to take all the seats too!

[N Dentressangle]

1 minute ago, robt100 said:

I'm 15mins from Retford, so if they need picking up from the seller I'm happy to hold them in the (dry) shed until someone is heading that way? I'm heading down towards Cambridge next week, but its to go on holiday, not sure I'd have the room in the BMW to take all the seats too!

That's very kind, thank you.

Currently waiting to see if my sister in law can pick them up on her way from St Andrews down to Chippenham. In theory she probably could. In practice... 🤣

[N Dentressangle]

Well, my SiL didn't let me down, so as expected I'm going to collect these myself today. Luckily I persuaded my dad to buy a nice car for a change and found him one of these:

which is both wafty, rocketship and miserly on fuel in equal measure, so I'm borrowing it for the day.

Off up to Retford about 11 - wish me luck!

[N Dentressangle]

Seats home and ready to go in:

They're really nice and will do a lot for the interior, and my arse.

A plague upon the pilfering bastard who robbed loads of bits off my car. I've found another two things they've nicked:

the opposite catch to this one on the NS of the car is missing, as is the plastic plug / screw thing that goes above it:

Cheers for that. Plus they're pretty elusive in the parts PDF.

😠

[MrBig]

1 hour ago, N Dentressangle said:

Seats home and ready to go in:

They're really nice and will do a lot for the interior, and my arse.

A plague upon the pilfering bastard who robbed loads of bits off my car. I've found another two things they've nicked:

the opposite catch to this one on the NS of the car is missing, as is the plastic plug / screw thing that goes above it:

Cheers for that. Plus they're pretty elusive in the parts PDF.

😠

You know what, that looks an awful lot like it's the same as another car we've talked about in this thread... 

Classic Volkswagen Beetle 1869 On Back Seat Latches Genuine OEM | eBay UK

I will have a dig through my spares box in the morning, might have some.

[Matty]

12 hours ago, N Dentressangle said:

Well, my SiL didn't let me down, so as expected I'm going to collect these myself today. Luckily I persuaded my dad to buy a nice car for a change and found him one of these:

which is both wafty, rocketship and miserly on fuel in equal measure, so I'm borrowing it for the day.

Off up to Retford about 11 - wish me luck!

More details please and keep me posted. I'm getting more and more of the horn for c and e  class Mercs.

[EyesWeldedShut]

1 minute ago, Matty said:

More details please and keep me posted. I'm getting more and more of the horn for c and e  class Mercs.

Guess what our 924 had been robbed off when we got it?

C Class Mercs (after running the forum bike CLK for just on 18 months) are generating a smol (femalien) horn here.
Wife likes 'em.  Sprog now wants one to ferry around imminent child + paraphernalia + her two dogs  (and getting her to shift away from Freeloader/Tiguan/RAV4 country is saying something). Her and t'missus are off on (yet another)  Thelma and Louise next weekend and are (funnily enough - yet again) using the CLK. 

This, of course, means keeping an eye on the availability of W203/W204 automatic estates at my (cheap) end of the market. The W204's around 2013 and older seem to have fell off some sort of financial cliff (?) and are coming up as cheap as the older cars (talking C220 models here.). For sprog I'm thinking a runout W203 would be ideal (but she prefers the W204 'look').
Mechanically -  I think they're pretty old school, electrickery on the diseasels seems pretty idiot proof, and the 5 speed Badermatic I really like.

E Class I would 10000% have for myself as a very competitively priced alternative to C Class but I think they're maybe a bit too 'breakable' for the sprog - her cars are proof that modern automotive products aged ten years plus do not thrive on neglect  
Something like a E320 estate would make me happy but I think I'd have to 'lose' something else out of the car park first  

 

 

 

 

[Matty]

9 minutes ago, EyesWeldedShut said:

Guess what our 924 had been robbed off when we got it?

C Class Mercs (after running the forum bike CLK for just on 18 months) are generating a smol (femalien) horn here.
Wife likes 'em.  Sprog now wants one to ferry around imminent child + paraphernalia + her two dogs  (and getting her to shift away from Freeloader/Tiguan/RAV4 country is saying something). Her and t'missus are off on (yet another)  Thelma and Louise next weekend and are (funnily enough - yet again) using the CLK. 

This, of course, means keeping an eye on the availability of W203/W204 automatic estates at my (cheap) end of the market. The W204's around 2013 and older seem to have fell off some sort of financial cliff (?) and are coming up as cheap as the older cars (talking C220 models here.). For sprog I'm thinking a runout W203 would be ideal (but she prefers the W204 'look').
Mechanically -  I think they're pretty old school, electrickery on the diseasels seems pretty idiot proof, and the 5 speed Badermatic I really like.

E Class I would 10000% have for myself as a very competitively priced alternative to C Class but I think they're maybe a bit too 'breakable' for the sprog - her cars are proof that modern automotive products aged ten years plus do not thrive on neglect  
Something like a E320 estate would make me happy but I think I'd have to 'lose' something else out of the car park first  

 

 

 

 

Thanks for talking me out of it (goes straight to ebay)

[N Dentressangle]

11 hours ago, Matty said:

More details please and keep me posted. I'm getting more and more of the horn for c and e  class Mercs.

Total rocketship.

My dad's is a 2015 Euro 6 car, so £35 road tax and ULEZ compliant. Traffic was as you'd imagine on M5, M42, A42, M1, and I was properly clogging the thing whenever I could to make up time, and it still got 47mpg according to the computer. The wipers and lights are automatic, the DAB stereo is ace and the seats are comfy enough to do 6hrs in without pain. 7 speed auto does its stuff without fuss and seems to realise when you'd like a bit more poke. Oh, and it hits 60 in 6ish seconds and tops out at 150mph, so you can sit with the other German boys in the outside lane 😉

Looking forward to inheriting it, but not too soon.

[N Dentressangle]

12 hours ago, MrBig said:

You know what, that looks an awful lot like it's the same as another car we've talked about in this thread... 

Classic Volkswagen Beetle 1869 On Back Seat Latches Genuine OEM | eBay UK

I will have a dig through my spares box in the morning, might have some.

You're right! It's p/n 111867330A I need, which is the RH latch.

Let me know if you turn one up and I'll send you some ££ for it, especially if you've still got the chunky screws 😉

[N Dentressangle]

On 27/08/2025 at 00:16, Alusilber said:

VW/Porsche have a nice logical part numbering scheme which gives you a clue as to the origin of the part.

Anything starting with 477 was designed specifically for the 924

931 for 924 Turbo parts

937 for 924 Carrera parts

Anything else starting with a 9 was probably borrowed from another Porsche model

Anything starting 171 is a Golf Mk1 part (or 191 for Golf Mk2 parts)

Anything else starting with a 1 will probably be from a VW aircooled model

Anything starting with 0 is generic VW fasteners etc.

 

 

So, the reg plate KFZ 477 is available for £250 from DVLA. KFZ is the German abreviation for Kraftfahrzeug, ie motor car.

🤔

[barefoot]

Buy that and you'll have to wear an anorak instead of red braces when you drive it.

[tooSavvy]

2 hours ago, barefoot said:

Buy that and you'll have to wear an anorak instead of red braces when you drive it.

A reg site I scanned has...

SL55 USH

Sad..... I know 🙄

🚙💨

[N Dentressangle]

OK, small update. Should be a massive one because I've done loads, but here are two small jobs before I do a proper update.

The horns sounded shite, and when I took the out (pair of old-style Mixos) it was obvious why only one was sort-of working:

Pair of 'new' Bosch ones liberated from a Merc W203 in Harry Bucklands sorted that job out.

Front brake pipes were also crusty, plus I couldn't live with those badly painted yellow calipers:

Wait until you see the state of the hoses...

Deffo an MoT advisory there 😉

All sorted:

[N Dentressangle]

I keep meaning to post this. The 924 is already an internet star*:

There are a few videos on it, so plenty to laugh at.

Was I mental to buy this PoS? At least it gives an idea of all the stuff I've fixed and what it was like before...

[N Dentressangle]

Another job I wasn't looking forward to: the blowing joint between the exhaust manifold and downpipe. It was fine when I bought the car, but 100 miles of a bad mis-fire on #4 blew the arse out of the gasket so something had to be done.

Access is a sod, although not as bad as I'd thought it would be and a few carefully chosen wobble drives and sockets had things all apart. I don't know if Porsche fitted brass nuts as standard, but that's what was on there, so thanks to St Gungum, Patron Saint of Exhausts for that one. Downpipe flange cleaned up nicely off the car:

and looking at the manifold it was pretty obvious what had happened and how:

All cleaned up and put back together with some high temp silicone seal on both sides of the gasket and no more leaks or bomber noises.

The steering wheel was in a right state, with literally all the stitching missing. Oddly the leather was in decent nick, with only a little wear and no holes. Bought some of the right colour linen thread off Ebay https://ebay.us/m/8FLWdM and set Mrs D a challenge. She's making good progress!

Few more things to sort, and we might be back on the road by the end of next week! 😎

[N Dentressangle]

Came upon this off the 924 FB group:

It's a 1981 924 Turbo DP Cargo. Just 9 ever made by some German GRP company, apparently. Who must have seen an Allegro estate at some point.

Few more pics and deets here:

Is it wrong that I'd really like one? 😍

[Asimo]

No...but on the proper Porsche wheels. Guards red of course.

[Matty]

10 hours ago, N Dentressangle said:

Came upon this off the 924 FB group:

It's a 1981 924 Turbo DP Cargo. Just 9 ever made by some German GRP company, apparently. Who must have seen an Allegro estate at some point.

Few more pics and deets here:

Is it wrong that I'd really like one? 😍

I think that really works. I mean obvs now you've mentioned Allegro estates you've ruined the moment a bit, but that looks well smart to me 😃

[N Dentressangle]

1 hour ago, Asimo said:

No...but on the proper Porsche wheels. Guards red of course.

[N Dentressangle]

So, the last push coming up.

I'd ordered the new rear suspension mounts from a firm in Germany, but because of the gullibility of some people in 2016 they won't ship to the UK. So, I had to get them sent to a German friend who then sent them on to me. Don't get me started. Anyway, whilst I was waiting I sorted a few more things out.

Passenger side electric window was U/S. Having removed the mechanism, one reason was already obvious:

Everything was mostly seized and rusty, so I cleaned and greased accordingly and re-fitted the thing. This was a PITA until I gave up and googled how to do it - get the rollers in the grooves FIRST, then bolt the motor in. Ho hum.

I re-made and replaced the vapour shield on both doors:

The door cards had obviously been rather soggy in the bottom RH corner for a while, but they'll live. Intermittent fault with the passenger side window was still there, but eventually traced to a sticky switch which I replaced with a good used one from the stash. I'll rebuild the old one at some point. I also tracked down a used brown mirror controller stick - someone had swiped the one from the driver's door - and now the mirrors kind of work. I could make them work properly but it's not a priority at the moment.

To add to the fun* the fuel pump relay decided it was tired of life and tried to set fire to itself:

Bloody horrible stink. New one ordered from Design911 which arrived the next day. Hurrah!

Finally the suspension mounts turned up from the Fatherland, and were fairly painlessly fitted - just need to loosen the rear beam bracket and wiggle them in, then try to get all the bolts to line up where they should. Some twat in the past had fitted the wrong bolts to the NS bracket and not bothered to tighten them up. Thanks mate. Found some of the correct size bolts and did the job properly:

And so finally, after a month in the air on stands, I could fit the wheels and put her back on the ground again:

She then started and ran fine for 10 min before cutting out. My first thought was perhaps the fuel had run out, so I added another 5 gallons. No dice.

And this is where we are now:

• it started again and ran fine for another 10 min then died. It would only run at fast idle from the screw on the throttle body, and would stumble and die if that was reduced. It revved fine.
• we have a good spark, so I'm confident this isn't an ignition problem
• the fuel filter is new and the tank was clean
• the fuel pump is new and runs correctly
• we have fuel at the metering unit
• it now won't start again

Here's a film of it being crap:

I need to think about this one, do some research and ask around on the forum I reckon. It's something simple, but I don't yet know what 🤔

[barefoot]

Did you know that the roof panel comes out? If you turn the key to the position before the ignition is on, then press the button to close the roof, the things at the back will disengage. Pull down on the rear ends of the hinges above your head. Step outside, push the roof from the inside until you can get a grip on it, then hinge it vertical and lift it off.

[N Dentressangle]

13 minutes ago, barefoot said:

Did you know that the roof panel comes out? If you turn the key to the position before the ignition is on, then press the button to close the roof, the things at the back will disengage. Pull down on the rear ends of the hinges above your head. Step outside, push the roof from the inside until you can get a grip on it, then hinge it vertical and lift it off.

Thanks - that's on my list of 'stuff to have a play with once I get it running properly' 🤣

Any ideas why it runs like a bag of shit?

[barefoot]

No, because I'm merely an end user who funds expensive holidays for a man with lots of Porsche shaped spanners.