Price of taxing high co2 cars

[carlo]

Flicking through the ebay yesterday I noticed a very nice 2001 Y plate 406 V6 saloon, have been after a cheap one of these for a while. Needs to be cheap when it does 20mpg. So I though hold on, £950 for a very nice low mileage 2001 406, what's the catch? I knew March 2001 is when the co2 emissions comes into play - its co2 is 238 which means tax for a year is £425!!! If it had been registered 1 day earlier tax would have been £205 for the year.Unless I'm stating the obvious, this is obviously affecting prices and I would presume an X plated car in similar nick would fetch more. What a strange world.

[garethj]

I’m sure it must affect prices, and the car tax will only get worse I reckon.When hunting for a normal family car, my requirement was for one made before 2001, just in case matching all Mrs Gareth’s requirements was too easy

[AXrescuer]

I won't buy anything newer than 2000 so as the years are going by, my choices are going to become very limited.

[meggersdog]

I've just checked an S type Jag on a 52 reg.That's rated at 249 and tax for the year is 245.I think the 425 is only after 06 (sorry my pound sign doesn't work).From 2001 to 2005 the high rating is 245.Mate of mine has a Range Rover Sport diesel on an 06 which is 425 for the year so it doesn't just effect large petrol engined cars.Check the reg number of that pug against the doovla tax site.

[messerschmitt owner]

I won't buy anything newer than 2000 so as the years are going by, my choices are going to become very limited.

I wouldn't say that - my smart roadster is £90 a year now, I was looking at 2.0HDi pugs and Citroens and they're £155 a year and the 2004 4.6 tonner is £165. I had a smart cdi with zero tax too. It does also work both ways, small cars pay less, big cars can pay more, but not always.

[carlo]

I've just checked an S type Jag on a 52 reg.That's rated at 249 and tax for the year is 245.I think the 425 is only after 06 (sorry my pound sign doesn't work).From 2001 to 2005 the high rating is 245.Mate of mine has a Range Rover Sport diesel on an 06 which is 425 for the year so it doesn't just effect large petrol engined cars.Check the reg number of that pug against the doovla tax site.

You're quite right, didn't spot that. They really seem to be going for the newer cars don't they.

[Milford Cubicle]

It's post March 2001.

 

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Ow ... G_10012524

[messerschmitt owner]

It's post March 2001.http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Ow ... G_10012524

* Band K includes cars that have a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006

[Slaighty]

I won't buy anything newer than 2000 so as the years are going by, my choices are going to become very limited.

With you on this. "Newest" vehicle I,ve never owned is the 1998 astray I currently run

[Negative Creep]

So how long before decent cars start getting scrapped when the tax runs out?

[AXrescuer]

I won't buy anything newer than 2000 so as the years are going by, my choices are going to become very limited.

I wouldn't say that - my smart roadster is £90 a year now, I was looking at 2.0HDi pugs and Citroens and they're £155 a year and the 2004 4.6 tonner is £165. I had a smart cdi with zero tax too. It does also work both ways, small cars pay less, big cars can pay more, but not always.

I can't have a smaller car for a main daily as I have a wife and five kids to cart around!

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

So how long before decent cars start getting scrapped when the tax runs out?

Sooner than that - wait until petrol hits £1.50 a litre later this year and you'll see V6 Pugs, S Type Slaguars and ropey old Mercs and 7 Series queued up at the weighbridge.In 1974, a relative drove a clean 3.8 Mark 10 Jaguar into Cross keys scrapyard because it was utterly worthless thanks to the fuel crisis.

[dieselnutjob]

I can't have a smaller car for a main daily as I have a wife and five kids to cart around!

I have a year 2000 Peugeot 806 HDI with 8 seats for similar reasons. Actually they are more reliable than the later 807s anyway.They could at least give you cheaper tax if you convert these older cars to LPG or something.Another curiosity of the system that I heard is that you can buy a car with a small engine for low tax and then do an engine swap to a V6 or whatever and they don't change the tax.

[FredTransit]

This adds substance to my theory there will be a double price tier to classic cars (and now those pre 2001). The ones fetching the best prices will be pre 1973. The next tier will be 1973-2001. The post 2001 prices (for those with big engines) will drop off a cliff!

[AXrescuer]

I can't have a smaller car for a main daily as I have a wife and five kids to cart around!

I have a year 2000 Peugeot 806 HDI with 8 seats for similar reasons. Actually they are more reliable than the later 807s anyway.They could at least give you cheaper tax if you convert these older cars to LPG or something.Another curiosity of the system that I heard is that you can buy a car with a small engine for low tax and then do an engine swap to a V6 or whatever and they don't change the tax.

I just wish I'd kept my most recent 505 as it was in excellent condition apart from the motor. A mate told me a while back that he could have shoved a dizzler in there for me for a couple of hundred quid.

[FredTransit]

Another curiosity of the system that I heard is that you can buy a car with a small engine for low tax and then do an engine swap to a V6 or whatever and they don't change the tax.

Well not if you don't tell them, but I bet as soon as you change the engine size on the V5, the tax will go up! That having said, they don't make it easy for you to change the engine size anyway.