2CV Turbo = Fire

[trigger]

Just found this article in a old issue of CAR magazine from 1988. I thought a few of you might like to read it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And suprisingly B772 JPC is still taxed! I'm sure DW knows more about it.

[VWPowered]

ruddy awesome

[scruff]

You are the man Trig, fantastic.

[Louise2cv]

I'm not sure but I think it wears two black arm bands now.

[saabhappy]

I hate them, but I loved that article. Thanks.

[Guest]

I hate them, but I loved that article. Thanks.

I like 2CVs, and I thought that article was great. I also support the New Deal. Thanks for listening.

[Guest]

I suppose had Wilsher and Cropley attempted the conversion today, there would have been a more readily available source of suitable turbos. That, and the Internet.I'd have suggested one of the really small IHI turbos that were used on the Kei class cars from Japan. Then again, there wouldn't have been too many stuffed Miras or Dangans on these shores in 1988. Hell, the turbo from the Piazza would have done the job - the VHB 32 is smaller than a T2 and even has a mega compact air to air intercooler as well.

[Talbotman]

Ah in the days just before Car became a shadow of its former self ive got ths up in the loft somewhere too......the car if i recall was rebuilt pretty soon afterwards - and i think Cropley and wilsher went on to build a diesel westfield christianed if i can recall the weasel.........

[Angrydicky]

[Pillock]

I had that magazine.I was 9 years old, and on holiday in a Haven park on the Isle of Weight. My uncle had come to visit us for a couple of days, and bought me the magazine. I remember the pictures of the melted dashboard

[Mr_Bo11ox]

GREAT STUFF, those old copies of 'CAR' are like a book in themselves, you can read them over and over and enjoy them every time, in fact I oughta stop buying new mags and just dig out all my old CARs, and re-read one a month. I picked up a new copy in the shop the other day, all the pictures had unamusing 'witty' captions like Max Power used to have. I reckon EVO is the new CAR, its the most intelligent new car mag out there by a long way.

[r.welfare]

Wilsher "moved" with Croppers to Buying Cars/Car Choice in the early 90s and wrote the "In the workshop you won't believe what we've seen this month" page, a bit like a modern Barry Cade from PC (or, indeed, the Workshop pages in Car Mechanics). Legends both!Right with you Bollox on the old CAR mags; the 60's ones are a bit twee for me, but the output from say 1972 to about 1991 is pretty much re-readable indefinitely.

[scruff]

Agree 100%, CAR through the eighties up until Gavin Green left was auto-gold. Nowadays it has more in common with the Ryanair in-flight magazine, which is pretty much identical to look at.

[Simon M]

the car if i recall was rebuilt pretty soon afterwards -

Blimey, it still exists, but it's on a SORN - can't begin to imagine what it looks like now! I love vehiclelicence.gov.uk

[garbaldy]

is that the same 2cv turbo that featured in cars and car conversions many moons ago, i will have to go and look through my collection now as youve got me wondering know.

[saabhappy]

Agree 100%, CAR through the eighties up until Gavin Green left was auto-gold. Nowadays it has more in common with the Ryanair in-flight magazine, which is pretty much identical to look at.

I'm afraid new-car mags have been a victim of cut-backs in our house, with the result that I'm out of touch with moderns and the virtues and vices they exhibit. CAR was stylish back then, if a bit self-indulgent at times, but these days the higher up the food chain you go with car mags the greater the pretentious factor I think.

[Guest]

... the higher up the food chain you go with car mags the greater the pretentious factor I think.

Precisely my problem with EVO. When they stick to the stuff I can afford (or could realistically aspire to afford) it's a brilliant read, the closest you can get nowadays to the Green era CAR.What EVO lacks is a sense of restraint (it's too closely affiliated with Pistonheads in my opinion) and the same willfull quirkiness that characterised old CAR. It gets close sometimes - the 50th issue anniversary round the Bedford Autodrome springs to mind - but it's too preoccupied with criticising hypercars for lacking a 'sense of occasion' to stay on track.Some of old CAR's appeal lies in hindsight mind you. I'm talking about the page design, the aged adverts and so on. When classic CAR was current I was 9 years old. Nothing like rose tinted spectacles to help with the opinion making. That said, the articles still stand up. I can read the older issues of CAR again and again. They're suffused with exactly the same repeat value that Mr Bollox mentioned. While Setright was a controversial character in many ways, I don't think they'll be anyone like him in motoring again, and CAR was very much a poorer magazine with his demise.I actually stayed a fan of CAR until mid 2000. The rot set in when they let the stylists go too far. What the fuck was that format change all about? It neither sat in your hands properly, or stacked up right in the rack. What a load of pretentious bollocks. After this step off point, it joined the Autocars and What Cars of this world, acting primarily as a paean to the altar of VAG products and the death of balanced motoring journalism.Mind you, by this point Citroens didn't even ride properly. Perhaps we're all fucked.

[scruff]

You are probably right Wat, nostalgia has a big part to play. Without trying to desend into a "car mags are shit!" type thread, part of the greatness in the 80s was the total independence (even when Murdoch bought it) and editors who were not afraid to say what the fug they wanted, and let their writers do the same. There just seemed to be such, well, creativity - finding new angles on things which were surprising and really entertaining. The turbo 2CV is a good one, I can remember Russel Bulgin having to do a road test on the Mini 30 and by his own admission dreading it. So he found an iconic sixties former hottie, tracked her down to Llandudno or somewhere and drove the Min there (even though she had said she didn't want to be interviewed).I have spoken to some dudes who were there at the time that all of us love and they said each issue was treated with such love and passion that it was like a mini 'project' every month. And some of the folks who were there - Steve Cropley, Richard Bremner, Brett Fraser, Gavin Green, Paul Horrell - are really nice blokes and properly passionate about their subject. I am also a little biased I suppose. Until VERY recently I worked in the same office as CAR, in nearly four years of working there the editor never even said 'hi' back in passing, despite the mag I worked on making fuck loads more money than his BO1's suggestion of just reading back issues is a fine one, I am going to start this evening at 1978.

[Gompo]

What EVO lacks is a sense of restraint (it's too closely affiliated with Pistonheads in my opinion) and the same willfull quirkiness that characterised old CAR. .

Arent EVO and Pistonheads competitors? Pistonheads essentially being Autocar.

[IanF]

Yep, but it essentially appeals to the same internet heros and chaps who wear driving boots at weekends mentally.

[Mr Lobster]

Agreed about the rereadableness of old copies of Car. I have a couple of mid nineties copies lurking under the bed for when I feel like reading them for the umpteenth time. There was one issue with an Italian theme - old Italian cars, celebrity Italian enthusiasts, Mini Coopers driving to Turin and all that sorta thing. Absolutely GR8. If they did stuff like that now I'd buy every issue.