Toyota's "Lancia" moment

[Barry Cade]

If they have ESP, shouldnt they know there is a potential problem coming sometime in the future,and flash a warning light or something?

[saabhappy]

I'd venture to suggest that a lot of Toyota owners don't come into the "enthusiast" category who read car stuff and make informed decisions.......

Be careful how you talk about Toyota owners on here (see below, and I'm not the only one). I made a very informed and deliberate choice to get one. Maybe the one I have now isn't typical Toyota fare, but the three I've gone out and bought before (another Camry, Carina E and Starlet) have all done me rather well too.I'd say your comment applies to most people who buy new cars, regardless of brand. Modern cars are so insanely complicated it could easily happen to any make.

No offence meant - your last para is really what I'm getting at, and you could substitute a load of other brand names for what I wrote about Toyota. As I live near Derby and therefore Burnaston, I'm hoping the impact won't be on local jobs. And I have a Mazda.

[STUNO]

Around 1982 Toyota had rust problems with Corollas. I noticed my mum's fairly new Corolla (about 12 mths old) was going badly rusty round the rear window. I had not said anything but after the car went to the dealer for a service it came back with the rust patches gone and it never returned while she had the car. It turned out that it was a widespread problem and Toyota just quietly fixed it!

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Hey I might stick a bulldog clip on the acc cable of my old TA14 Carina and rock up to the local dealer complaining about it running away with me, see if I get a free Yaris or something out of them to keep quiet about it.

[Mr Lobster]

Media are loving it though. Heres some helpful advice from the BBChttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8498257.stmSadly, as always the British public prove that there really is plenty of stupidity about -

There was a heck of a bang and it was scary not least because I had about 6 people in a 15 year old mini

Possibly on about her sex life though...

I thought the last ditch inside lane of a motorway technique was to drive into the armco at a glancing angle and keep it there - scrape the speed off

Good luck with that then.

This happened to me many years ago in an old MGB

Imagine, the thrill of full speed in a Sherpa coupe

I myself had a very traumatic experience when driving my Yaris

I was gently accelerating away from a roundabout when my accelerator became stuck and the car continued to gain speed despite no pressure on the pedal. The car very quickly accelerated to speeds above 70 mph which was an extremely frightening experience for myself

I managed to use the clutch and take the car out of gear but unfortunately lost control at this point and crashed into the central reservation after the car spinning across the dual carriageway.

And what the fuck is this "I, myself" malarkey all about eh? Proper English please love.

[Guest]

Talking of stuck accelerator pedals, a mate had an interesting story - some years back he was with his dad on the driveway with his old Charade Turbodiesel idling away, when the throttle suddenly jammed fully open and wouldn't come off - the diesel engine was revving itself to death and thick acrid smoke was pouring out of the exhaust. His dad jumped in and stalled it. The final result was that their street was absolutely filled with black smoke and it reeked of diesel smoke for ages. Nice work!Would have been quite funny if it jammed on whilst driving, it'd be like a really slow version of Speed. I reckon you'd just be able to keep going around the block in third gear at 25mph whilst it slowly sucks the diesel away at 100mpg. Imagine if you'd just filled up, you'd be there all day.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Ha ha, 'Whats all that commotion out in the street? Is someone joyriding on one of the council's Kubota mini-tractors'

[pompei]

I drove a Fiat 500 half way across France with a jammed throttle - the spring on the cable had snapped at the carb - just flicked the pedal back with the top of my toe. I think driving a knackered car should be part of the driving test - if you cannot work out what to do you shouldn't be driving

[504GL]

I drove a Fiat 500 half way across France with a jammed throttle - the spring on the cable had snapped at the carb - just flicked the pedal back with the top of my toe. I think driving a knackered car should be part of the driving test - if you cannot work out what to do you shouldn't be driving

Who needs to know how to drive a knackered car? ESP sorts everything out for you! I kid you not, there are some people who seem to have that attitude.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I dont like the idea of driving a car with ESP, it might start getting shirty with me if I was mulling over what car to buy next to replace it. Its better when they know nowt in my experience.

[Richard]

That BBC article is full of "man in the pub" bollocks- and I haven't even started reading the comments yet.

[504GL]

That BBC article is full of "man in the pub" bollocks- and I haven't even started reading the comments yet.

Sadly BBC News 24 is as well. All part of some getting feckless morons involved initiative I'm sure.

[Guest]

That BBC article is full of "man in the pub" bollocks- and I haven't even started reading the comments yet.

Seriously, don't bother with the 'reader responses' if the article narks you. There's no pictures of wives in there and the general level of literacy is depressing.The Watchdog \ Rogue Traders comment section is the absolute nadir of human experience though, if you fancied slumming it in the pits of abject misery and fuddled confusion.

[aled]

in all of that it only tells you to put the car in neutral in an auto, you could also put a manual in to neutral and without dipping the cluch.

[Rusty Pelican]

Talking of stuck accelerator pedals, a mate had an interesting story - some years back he was with his dad on the driveway with his old Charade Turbodiesel idling away, when the throttle suddenly jammed fully open and wouldn't come off - the diesel engine was revving itself to death and thick acrid smoke was pouring out of the exhaust. His dad jumped in and stalled it. The final result was that their street was absolutely filled with black smoke and it reeked of diesel smoke for ages. Nice work!

They do that when running on their own sump oil as well , mates missus had an Orion do it , An axe through the sump shut it up eventually

[warren t claim]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/busi ... 002052443/

[UglyAmerican]

The Watchdog \ Rogue Traders comment section is the absolute nadir of human experience though, if you fancied slumming it in the pits of abject misery and fuddled confusion.

My Friend,YouTube comments await you. Try anything related to American or British elections, Israel/Palestine, or Australian Holden vs. Ford.

[Pete-M]

I dont like the idea of driving a car with ESP, it might start getting shirty with me if I was mulling over what car to buy next to replace it. Its better when they know nowt in my experience.

All cars do that, don't they? A fair few of mine certainly have.As for sticky throttle moments, I've had two memorable ones, one was the Jensen - the throttle return spring had gone awol at one end. That resulted in a cloud of tyre smoke and a frantic fumble for the ignition key. Always worrying.Another was upon braking rather heavily in a LHD 80's Porsche 911 Turbo - a bottle shot out from under the drivers seat and wedged between the throttle and brake pedals. That was a very 'brown trousers' moment, as stepping on the brake increased pressure on the throttle. Roy Castle would have been proud of me for the footwork, Walter Rohrl would have been surprised I kept it out of the scenery. I think I lost about a stone in weight.

[pogweasel]

As for sticky throttle moments, I've had two memorable ones, one was the Jensen - the throttle return spring had gone awol at one end. That resulted in a cloud of tyre smoke and a frantic fumble for the ignition key. Always worrying.

zoiks, I had that happen to me an old chevette. frightening enough with 1256cc going wild, 7-litre V8 must be something entirely different in the pant-staining dept.

[Rusty Pelican]

This is bloody funny , read on re. Saab as well

 

http://www.sniffpetrol.com/

[Mr Lobster]

and witter on about how they’re too scared to drive their Yaris to such a blindingly crass degree that listeners eventually start to get a sense of what it would be like if the editor of the Daily Mail did a stool into a syringe and then used it to inject vile reactionary shit into their ears.

 

[CIH]

"The car on it's roof is a Toyota" - Murray Walker, 1994 Silverstone BTCC Grandprix support race when Will Hoy was biffed onto his roof by teammate Julian Bailey. Seems apat, now too.

[Richard]

and witter on about how they’re too scared to drive their Yaris to such a blindingly crass degree that listeners eventually start to get a sense of what it would be like if the editor of the Daily Mail did a stool into a syringe and then used it to inject vile reactionary shit into their ears.

Did that really happen? The first bit I mean, i know the second bit happens daily.

[Mr Lobster]

The bit about people being too scared to drive them? Sadly yes it did. There were people ringing 5Live last week with tales of how they were terribly inconvenienced because all of a sudden their car was 'unsafe' and how Toyota couldn't do the work for about two weeks and how they wouldn't give them a courtesy car. FFS.

[fiatdaft]

the number of toyota owners coming in recently has gone up,so will see if were stuffed with used toyotas soon!

[aled]

i'm calling round later - i will be in the toyota - but i'm not stopping.

[aled]

the number of toyota owners coming in recently has gone up,so will see if were stuffed with used toyotas soon!

let me know, if you have a few cheepies knocking about i may be interested.

[pogweasel]

yes. there was some ancient fossil on there the other day who managed to demolish 4 walls and someone's ar just backing his yaris out of the drive. He claimed a stuck throttle but the faltering voice, lack of clarity on the detail and general confused demeanour had DEMENTIA written all over it.

[aled]

yes. there was some ancient fossil on there the other day who managed to demolish 4 walls and someone's ar just backing his yaris out of the drive. He claimed a stuck throttle but the faltering voice, lack of clarity on the detail and general confused demeanour had DEMENTIA written all over it.

fuck that sounds like my mother, she has managed to write off 2 cars with the front of her corolla, both times i have streightned the front out and only cost about £100 to do. the car does drive really well but does have some battle scars (she is 85 yo) and she should not be driving.

[Quintus]

A classic example of media hysteria. What started out as 'there's a problem with certain models of Toyota' (it's a massive recall, admittedly) quickly became 'ALL TOYOTAS ARE DANGEROUS!'