Glass's Guide

[keef]

Anyone have a copy of Glass's Car Check Book 1979 or 1980?

I've found 

but was sure there was mention of something on here quite recently. Perhaps is was this? 

[Kiltox]

There’s a bunch of them on eBay. £25 each though!

[keef]

3 minutes ago, Kiltox said:

There’s a bunch of them on eBay. £25 each though!

How much? !!

3 minutes ago, Kiltox said:

There’s a bunch of them on eBay. £25 each though!

I'll have a look, thanks.

[keef]

Do you think this would cover 1979-1980?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Glasss-Guide-Car-Check-Book-1989-Confidential-UK-Specifications/223981161687 

[LightBulbFun]

Yeah doing a quick search shows plenty on ebay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=Glass's+Car+Checkbook&_sacat=0

I do wonder which ones you need to get to cover the most amount of years in the fewest amount of books...

I also (of course) wonder if they cover invalid vehicles at all? or are they too niche even for Glass's guides! 

(edit: reading the foreword of a few of them looks like they only cover larger volume cars, so that would probably be a no then on the invalid vehicle question LOL)

[Skizzer]

If you just want to look up used car values in 1980, I have a copy of What Car? handy that will do that.

[Richard_FM]

I used have some 20 years ago which I saved from the bin at the insurance company I used to work for.

Stupidly I threw them away in a clear out a few years later because I they were out of date & assumed there would be a website to look up the same information.

[keef]

12 minutes ago, Skizzer said:

If you just want to look up used car values in 1980, I have a copy of What Car? handy that will do that.

Thanks, but actually looking for the Austin Maxi chassis numbers as per DVLA's INF34.

[keef]

2 minutes ago, Richard_FM said:

I used have some 20 years ago which I saved from the bin at the insurance company I used to work for.

Stupidly I threw them away in a clear out a few years later because I they were out of date & assumed there would be a website to look up the same information.

Yes. most surprised they aren't available on a website.

Looks like you could have made yourself £20 or so per book if you had saved them. Such is life.

[keef]

47 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

I do wonder which ones you need to get to cover the most amount of years in the fewest amount of books...

They certainly seem to cover a range, rather just an individual year, hence my question above.

[LightBulbFun]

5 minutes ago, keef said:

They certainly seem to cover a range, rather just an individual year, hence my question above.

well I imagine the ones that only mention a single year, only cover that year

so if your looking for something that covers 1979-1980, then I would find a book that does cover/go through those years

like this one for example https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324105637492

[keef]

3 minutes ago, The Mighty Quinn said:

This is from 1986 so only the later ones:

That's just what I need: thanks.

Ebay seller replied with these as well, so ....

[keef]

17 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

well I imagine the ones that only mention a single year, only cover that year

so if your looking for something that covers 1979-1980, then I would find a book that does cover/go through those years

like this one for example https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324105637492

As per images, it looks as if new books cover older cars, although not sure at what point they "cut off"? They must do this or the books would be as big as your Invacar thread by now. LOL!

[Richard_FM]

Iirc the was one book for current cars & ones for older cars, motorbikes & commercial vehicles.

[Richard_FM]

2 hours ago, keef said:

Yes. most surprised they aren't available on a website.

Looks like you could have made yourself £20 or so per book if you had saved them. Such is life.

The ones I kept were from the 1990s & the book covering older cars had models like Vauxhall Chevettes in.  I’ve mostly seen ones being around £5 on eBay.

[keef]

21 minutes ago, Richard_FM said:

The ones I kept were from the 1990s & the book covering older cars had models like Vauxhall Chevettes in.  I’ve mostly seen ones being around £5 on eBay.

Yep, but even a fiver a book is better than nought.

[Richard_FM]

21 minutes ago, keef said:

Yep, but even a fiver a book is better than nought.

I guess so.

[sheffcortinacentre]

Yep I bought that one here recently.

[Richard_FM]

I've now received a Index of suffix marks 1975-83, which has been useful for checking the registrations on publicity photographs which don't produce any results.

Often unissued combinations are used on press pictures, or simply the year letter is airbrushed to another letter.

[keef]

34 minutes ago, Richard_FM said:

I've now received a Index of suffix marks 1975-83, which has been useful for checking the registrations on publicity photographs which don't produce any results.

Often unissued combinations are used on press pictures, or simply the year letter is airbrushed to another letter.

Not sure I understand that.

1975 would be N to 1983 which would surely be A as a prefix?

[LightBulbFun]

8 minutes ago, keef said:

Not sure I understand that.

1975 would be N to 1983 which would surely be A as a prefix?

he is saying has has an index of when where a registration series where issued from and to, and that it covers years 1975 to 1983,

like for example for REV-R it says something like "REV-R, chelmsford, August 76-Sep 76" IIRC

(although interesting how it says September 1976, because REV451R my Invacar Model 70 was registered on the 5th of November 1976, although September 1976 might be referring to when all the REV-R registrations where issued, but not necessarily registried, keep in mind you could/can reserve registrations!)

all in all a very handy thing to have!  

theres this for up to 1972ish https://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/registrations/reg-letters.htm

but for anything beyond that there's nothing public sadly

[Richard_FM]

1 minute ago, LightBulbFun said:

he means has has an index of when where registration series where issued

like for example for REV-R it says something like "REV-R, chelmsford, August 76-Sep 76" IIRC

(although interesting how it says September 1976, because REV451R my Invacar Model 70 was registered on the 5th of November 1976, although September 1976 might be referring to when all the REV-R registrations where issued, but not nesserly registried, keep in mind you could/can reserve registrations!)

all in all a very handy thing to have! 

theres this for up to 1972ish https://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/registrations/reg-letters.htm

but for anything beyond that theres nothing public sadly

The Y regs were issued until 31/7/1983 so the title is correct, though it seems to have gone to press before then as some y regs are listed as ongoing.

[keef]

This usually covers it for me :-

http://www.cvpg.co.uk/REG.pdf

[Richard_FM]

It should be useful when I can only make out part of a registration to help narrow down the possible combinations, assuming its the letters that are hard to make out.

[LightBulbFun]

50 minutes ago, keef said:

This usually covers it for me :-

http://www.cvpg.co.uk/REG.pdf

thats PDF good for knowing the overall info, but does not go into the details

 

lets say you have a car lets use one of your Maxis as an example  

MWC821P, lets say this car did not show up on the DVLA, now you can easily tell from its P suffix that it would be from August 1975 to July 1976

but what if you wanted or needed to know more precisely when it was registered?

this is where the glass guides info @Richard_FM mention would come in handy because it would tell you exactly when the registration series MWC-P was issued by the DVLC and that would help you narrow down the date of when the car was registered etc  

and like Rich says also, its also good for checking if a registration series was issued which would come in handy for example, let's say all you had was a picture of MWC821P but it was a bad photo and you where not sure if it was MWC821P or MWC821R,

the glass guides would tell you that MWC-P was issued and you could see MWC-R was never issued

telling you that the registration is going to be MWC821P not MWC821R  

 

see how it can be handy having detailed info on when a registration series was first and last issued!  

[keef]

OK.

Answer me this. Why did I think that 123ABC number letter was only issued 1962 on and all ABC123 letter number plates were prior to 1960?

Using your look up  123ABC *can* be prior to 1960.

[LightBulbFun]

24 minutes ago, keef said:

Answer me this. Why did I think that 123ABC number letter was only issued 1962 on and all ABC123 letter number plates were prior to 1960?

im not sure why you might have thought that? I sadly cant read minds! perhaps there was some misinformation you read many years ago?

 

but I can say 123ABC registrations where simply introduced as each area ran out of ABC123  style registrations

as they ran out the simple solution was to flip it round, and this started happening in the 1950s  

1AHX was the first such, issued in 1953 according to wikipidia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_United_Kingdom#1932_to_1963

 

its fun to note that not all places got through all their registrations like that, there where even some places still issuing their original AA1234 style registrations into the 1960s! (where apon they where forced to issue suffix letter plates)

and never having needed to use any form, is where a lot of current age related plates for pre 1963 cars now come from  

[keef]

All good. Information, thanks.

just don't make the mistake of including the Isle of Man.