Marmite

[pompei]

I'm going to use a fuel catalyst

[catsinthewelder]

I'm not worried,  there is nothing there to say the Rover will kersplode and

 

 

E10 is cleared for use in all petrol driven Dacia vehicles.

 

[richardthestag]

fake labelling on cheap not fit for purpose fuel line on ebay will do far far more damage than E5/E10 or E20 pez

 

gents and ladies rest your sphincters 

[Noel Tidybeard]

looks like the spaceship is safe....which is nice

[rml2345]

Apparently all pez Volvos since 1976 apart from the S/V40 with the GDi lump are E10 safe so I should be alright as long as I'm still Scottish enough to own an old petrol Volvo.

[martc]

that document said

The European Fuel Quality Directive (1) requires that countries of the European Union that introduce E10 petrol must ensure that sufficient volumes of today’s petrol (sometimes described as E5) are available for vehicles that are not compatible with the use of E10 petrol

 

Good job we're not leaving the EU anytime soon, oh hang on a sec....

[Guest Conan]

 

Quite a nice video.

[Junkman]

Right. Let's take the myths and urban legends out of the whole thing.

 

Ethanol in petrol will not cause you any running issues. I know a bunch of P6 V8 drivers in France who run their cars exclusively on E85.

They welcome the higher octane the stuff has and the only mod they did to the cars is that they replaced the carby needles with Landrover ones to enrich the mixture a bit.

Ethanol has a somewhat lower energy content per volumetric unit than petrol and thus when you run the engine on too lean a mixture, you will notice a slight lack of power.

Mind you, this is on 85% Ethanol, a mere 10% will not be noticeable.

 

But the emphasis is on running and this must be taken literally.

 

The reason for Ethanol causing problems in old cars is them often not being driven frequently.

If a car is parked for weeks on end, Ethanol will cause all kinds of problems, since it's not a very stable tincture.

Consequently it will turn into goo and clog up your fuel system and contaminate your tank.

Thus if you plan to not drive your car very much, you should 

 

A. Always park it with very little petrol left in the tank (this is old news, it's always been that way)

 

B. This is the new bit - only leave petrol in the tank you have removed the Ethanol from.

 

Removing Ethanol from petrol is really, really simple:

 

 

 

Mind you, you only have to do this if you intend to not use your car for more than a Month.

When driving the car, you can just fill it with the shit they sell at the station.

 

Also note, that removing the Ethanol will lower the octane. So if you have a high compression engine, add some octane booster.

 

Now, if you really have a keeper, the smartest thing to do is fit a drain cock to the tank anyway.

[BorniteIdentity]

Right. Let's take the myths and urban legends out of the whole thing.

 

Ethanol in petrol will not cause you any running issues. I know a bunch of P6 V8 drivers in France who run their cars exclusively on E85.

They welcome the higher octane the stuff has and the only mod they did to the cars is that they replaced the carby needles with Landrover ones to enrich the mixture a bit.

Ethanol has a somewhat lower energy content per volumetric unit than petrol and thus when you run the engine on too lean a mixture, you will notice a slight lack of power.

Mind you, this is on 85% Ethanol, a mere 10% will not be noticeable.

 

But the emphasis is on running and this must be taken literally.

 

The reason for Ethanol causing problems in old cars is them often not being driven frequently.

If a car is parked for weeks on end, Ethanol will cause all kinds of problems, since it's not a very stable tincture.

Consequently it will turn into goo and clog up your fuel system and contaminate your tank.

Thus if you plan to not drive your car very much, you should

 

A. Always park it with very little petrol left in the tank (this is old news, it's always been that way)

 

B. This is the new bit - only leave petrol in the tank you have removed the Ethanol from.

 

Removing Ethanol from petrol is really, really simple:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSnE4MYwRzs

 

 

Mind you, you only have to do this if you intend to not use your car for more than a Month.

When driving the car, you can just fill it with the shit they sell at the station.

 

Also note, that removing the Ethanol will lower the octane. So if you have a high compression engine, add some octane booster.

 

Now, if you really have a keeper, the smartest thing to do is fit a drain cock to the tank anyway.

This is wonderfully informative. Thanks.

 

TL;DR - use your car as just that, and you’ll have nothing to worry about.

[danthecapriman]

I’m not worried at all, it’s only 10% ffs. Things are fine on 5% we have now so the extra 5% isn’t going to make sod all diference. I normally chuck some of that Millers ethanol stabiliser stuff in all my tanks over winter and so far stuffs been fine.

It’s just a load of worry over nothing, just like when they stopped leaded fuel.

[Guest Hooli]

Mind you, this is on 85% Ethanol, a mere 10% will not be noticeable.

 

This is the only bit I disagree with in that post as I can feel the difference on my bike. I also get a noticeable reduction in MPG.

[Junkman]

The OMGMPG will decrease with a higher Ethanol content.

There are three known methods to compensate for the loss of power:

 

A. Enrich the mixture.

 

B. Increase the compression ratio.

 

C. Buy something with a bigger engine.

[Guest Hooli]

Remember those cheap tuning* boxes that ebay was full of years ago, that were just a resistor to make your engine think it was cold outside & add more fuel?

 

I can see those making a comeback & actually working for E10 as they'll do point A)

Just wire in a switch to engage/disengage it according to if you could buy proper fuel or not.

[Junkman]

Nah, it won't. But that has nothing to do with the Ethanol in the petrol.

[ChinaTom]

Doesn’t have to wreck the soil - working hard on this right now from a sugar cane POV.

 

 

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